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G Griffin

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Re: Firemen
« Reply #60 on: April 06, 2018, 08:11:30 am »
""Seriously, who cares if they earn a few bob on the side. They do a ridiculously dangerous job and the wages doesn’t equal the risk.""

Health and Safety ensure they don't do a "ridiculously dangerous job".
Like the Manchester Arena bombing when they were told to stay 3 miles away while the public looked after the injured?
" and the wages"
You ever seen a Fireman job advertised?
No, me neither it's a closed shop.
No one ever leaves the fire service once they're in.
I don't know of any other "essential service" job where you can also run a business on the side.
There are loads working round here and I have picked up work after them and most were cash jobs.




You oviously don’t look in the right places as the jobs are advertised for all to apply for although there are quite often hundreds of applications for a few jobs
Why did the Manchester crews stay away from the scene if you were in the job you would understand why there are protocols to adhear to weather we like it or not and some times cock ups are made by lack of communication between different organisations  , I think this will become apparent in the forth coming enquiries
Is it a dangerous job yes it can be you have a bad day cleaning windows you might break a window : get it wrong when fighting a fire you don’t get a second chance try googling flashover and backdraft see if you would like to go into a building and experience that , I’ve did the job for 30 years and people with an attitude like yours is very uncommon most appreciate what the emergence services do , do we always get it right no do you ? No , look at the grenfell tower block fire that shows the British fire service at its best we are world leaders in the way the Fireservice works at ground level with the training and profecianalism of its members it’s only when you get up into very senior management that are far removed from the real working environment that things go wrong
When they ( wholetime firefighters) are on days off if they choose to have a second job or run there own buisness window cleaning or anything else why shouldn’t they ? We live in a free country where ones can choose what they want to do not a dictatorship where you are told what to do . Many people have two or three jobs that’s there choise : a wholetime firefighter has to have permission from the brigade before doing a second job I personally don’t think that they should have to but that’s the way it is
No one ever leaves the Fireservice again how wrong you are retention of personal is a very big issue especially for on call staff , would you be prepared to give 120 + hours a week cover for 3k a year ? Jump out of your bed 3 times a night ? Drop what you are doing with your own buisness to go and deal with an rtc where some drunk has had an accident . Be verbally abused for trying to help people? And so the list  goes on : you need to sit down and think about your comments before coming out with such rubbish


Whilst I respect all the emergency services and the job they do.

You can't choose to be a fireman then moan about the job, the hours, the pay or the danger. You know all that when you sign up.

If you don't like it then leave and find another job.

"I've worked here for 20 years, it's dangerous, the pay is rubbish and the hours long" 

Well don't do it then!
He didn't moan about it; he replied to the wind ups about sleeping, playing snooker and watching Sky etc.
I'd say that was defending the job not moaning about it.
And people have a right to moan about their job and still enjoy and be prepared to do it. Have a look at this part of the forum!
You moan about the weather. A lot.
Bungle, Granny and Harv are obviously on the wind up and should be treated as such. I get that some might not have realised and got upset, understandably, but they are!
Let them get on with it and don't take them too seriously.
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Stoots

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Re: Firemen
« Reply #61 on: April 06, 2018, 09:03:50 am »
I agree Griffin. We all do moan

I was just making the observation that instead of moaning we should do something about it.

Do as I say not as I do  ;)

It was just my thoughts.

Like I said In my other post who cares either way

Re: Firemen
« Reply #62 on: April 06, 2018, 10:52:41 am »
a lot of firemen are terrible thieves.  i spose the temptations there youre called to a shop on fire and on your way thru the stockroom oooer whats that, - in the pocket it goes

 you cross the line once ,maybe as a firemen of 25 you see the chief pocketing summat -and youre stealing for the next 20 years

Either dyslexic. Thick as poo... or Samson. Or all three.


My money is on Bobby P

Who? Never heard of her

p1w1

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Re: Firemen
« Reply #63 on: April 06, 2018, 03:07:26 pm »
I think this thread is getting worse , there’s no need to bad mouth firefighters  . There’s some really negative, jealous people around who just bitch about other people instead of doing something about it and improving their own lives.
Needs to be locked really , I don’t think it’s good that ciu has a thread slagging off firefighters
Unfortunately might take some time as the mods seem to be doing window cleaning on the side as well as moderating this forum  :-X  ;D

Johnny B

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Re: Firemen
« Reply #64 on: April 06, 2018, 07:37:15 pm »
Seems to me that those who are complaining are the ones who aren't happy with their own businesses or see the firefighters, among others who may have other work, as some sort of threat.

It doesn't or wouldn't bother me in the slightest. I just concentrate on providing my customers with a decent job at a fair rate in a professional manner, and let any competitors get on with what they are doing.

John
Being diplomatic is being able to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip.

robbo333

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Re: Firemen
« Reply #65 on: April 06, 2018, 07:55:42 pm »
So we're going on about firemen doing a bit of window cleaning on the side.
How many window cleaners, SAVE LIVES on the side?
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For all other enquiries, please press1"

mjm

Re: Firemen
« Reply #66 on: April 06, 2018, 08:12:08 pm »
i went canvassing 2 years back  and and got nothing  but   we have one  he does the street regular he is a fireman  there was more than 40 in the street said it  and over 200 houses in the street and the next  5 streets was the same i got one call  and had to dump her after 6 months after i could not get hold of them for payment  then  the fireman  rocked up  ladders on his shoulder smiling  saying i dumped her mate  she goes away for 3 months a year i asked him are you the fireman      his answer was yeh   i have  f@@@@@g  loads round ere   all cash       i do 4 on 4 off on call             then winda clean     

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Re: Firemen
« Reply #67 on: April 06, 2018, 08:58:16 pm »
i went canvassing 2 years back  and and got nothing  but   we have one  he does the street regular he is a fireman  there was more than 40 in the street said it  and over 200 houses in the street and the next  5 streets was the same i got one call  and had to dump her after 6 months after i could not get hold of them for payment  then  the fireman  rocked up  ladders on his shoulder smiling  saying i dumped her mate  she goes away for 3 months a year i asked him are you the fireman      his answer was yeh   i have  f@@@@@g  loads round ere   all cash       i do 4 on 4 off on call             then winda clean     

                                                                    just saying                        like

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Don Kee

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Re: Firemen
« Reply #68 on: April 06, 2018, 09:11:37 pm »
Mate of mine is a window cleaner in the East Midlands. He also does TA as well.

Bloody window cleaners, coming in and taking military jobs.
Why don't you have a quick google before making stupid comments?

Bungle

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Re: Firemen
« Reply #69 on: April 06, 2018, 09:53:01 pm »
Army are on £37.12 a day. They risk their lives more than anyone. Fact. That's why they have the Paralympic Games to honour them.
We look at them, they look through them.

AuRavelling79

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Re: Firemen
« Reply #70 on: April 06, 2018, 10:15:54 pm »
Thread locked.  ::)roll

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