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Re: Firemen
« Reply #40 on: April 04, 2018, 10:09:44 pm »
""Seriously, who cares if they earn a few bob on the side. They do a ridiculously dangerous job and the wages doesn’t equal the risk.""

Health and Safety ensure they don't do a "ridiculously dangerous job".
Like the Manchester Arena bombing when they were told to stay 3 miles away while the public looked after the injured?
" and the wages"
You ever seen a Fireman job advertised?
No, me neither it's a closed shop.
No one ever leaves the fire service once they're in.
I don't know of any other "essential service" job where you can also run a business on the side.
There are loads working round here and I have picked up work after them and most were cash jobs.

Doctors run businesses as do consultants. Any financially savvy quack will also work on a self employed basis for a  private hralthcare company. No difference.

See bungle. Even a notorious moron like slacky can see the benefits.

Is a fireman knocking off your wife or something? You seem bitter

Bungle

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Re: Firemen
« Reply #41 on: April 04, 2018, 10:10:22 pm »
So, we seem to have quite a few firemen on this forum. How many doing window cleaning on the side across the country I wonder?




Bungle by name and by nature you have no idear what you are talking about most that are on hear are on call firefighters not wholetime ,so window cleaning is there main job , just for the record fireman is a sexist term it’s now firefighter get you facts right before sounding off

Terrible grammar. Do firemen need to pass an English test?
We look at them, they look through them.

james peters

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Re: Firemen
« Reply #42 on: April 04, 2018, 10:20:52 pm »
bungle. you are a muppet ::)roll

Splash & dash

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Re: Firemen
« Reply #43 on: April 04, 2018, 11:07:12 pm »
""Seriously, who cares if they earn a few bob on the side. They do a ridiculously dangerous job and the wages doesn’t equal the risk.""

Health and Safety ensure they don't do a "ridiculously dangerous job".
Like the Manchester Arena bombing when they were told to stay 3 miles away while the public looked after the injured?
" and the wages"
You ever seen a Fireman job advertised?
No, me neither it's a closed shop.
No one ever leaves the fire service once they're in.
I don't know of any other "essential service" job where you can also run a business on the side.
There are loads working round here and I have picked up work after them and most were cash jobs.




You oviously don’t look in the right places as the jobs are advertised for all to apply for although there are quite often hundreds of applications for a few jobs
Why did the Manchester crews stay away from the scene if you were in the job you would understand why there are protocols to adhear to weather we like it or not and some times cock ups are made by lack of communication between different organisations  , I think this will become apparent in the forth coming enquiries
Is it a dangerous job yes it can be you have a bad day cleaning windows you might break a window : get it wrong when fighting a fire you don’t get a second chance try googling flashover and backdraft see if you would like to go into a building and experience that , I’ve did the job for 30 years and people with an attitude like yours is very uncommon most appreciate what the emergence services do , do we always get it right no do you ? No , look at the grenfell tower block fire that shows the British fire service at its best we are world leaders in the way the Fireservice works at ground level with the training and profecianalism of its members it’s only when you get up into very senior management that are far removed from the real working environment that things go wrong
When they ( wholetime firefighters) are on days off if they choose to have a second job or run there own buisness window cleaning or anything else why shouldn’t they ? We live in a free country where ones can choose what they want to do not a dictatorship where you are told what to do . Many people have two or three jobs that’s there choise : a wholetime firefighter has to have permission from the brigade before doing a second job I personally don’t think that they should have to but that’s the way it is
No one ever leaves the Fireservice again how wrong you are retention of personal is a very big issue especially for on call staff , would you be prepared to give 120 + hours a week cover for 3k a year ? Jump out of your bed 3 times a night ? Drop what you are doing with your own buisness to go and deal with an rtc where some drunk has had an accident . Be verbally abused for trying to help people? And so the list  goes on : you need to sit down and think about your comments before coming out with such rubbish

G Griffin

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Re: Firemen
« Reply #44 on: April 04, 2018, 11:53:41 pm »
""Seriously, who cares if they earn a few bob on the side. They do a ridiculously dangerous job and the wages doesn’t equal the risk.""

Health and Safety ensure they don't do a "ridiculously dangerous job".
Like the Manchester Arena bombing when they were told to stay 3 miles away while the public looked after the injured?
" and the wages"
You ever seen a Fireman job advertised?
No, me neither it's a closed shop.
No one ever leaves the fire service once they're in.
I don't know of any other "essential service" job where you can also run a business on the side.
There are loads working round here and I have picked up work after them and most were cash jobs.

Yes I have seen it advertised , that’s exactly how I got in , saw it advertised and applied , then went through several physical and mental tests , followed by a medical and an interview .

That got around 1200 applicants down to 30 ......who then went through a 16 week course , inensive training in lots of different subjects along with grueling pt sessions .

We don’t have snooker tables , we have constant training in subjects such as firefighting , road traffic collision , water rescue , rope rescue , ladders , pt, fire science , flooding , mud rescues , medical training ......and in recent years in my brigade we have lost two colleagues in a fire , not to mention a friend that tried to hang himself from what he has seen .....sadly common in this job .

Even though your an ungrateful idiot , I would still have no hesitation in rescuing you from
A fire , or your crashed car , perform cpr or stop you bleeding to save your life ........ all for less than £14 per hour .

Go wobble your head .
Good on you, Robert, but I wouldn't take Bungle so seriously.

Im not , i know bungle is a troll , it was aimed at granny.
Sorry, my mistake.
I didn't realise that someone else had jumped onto what I saw as a wind up thread.
Let them have their anonymous grumble.
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JandS

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Re: Firemen
« Reply #45 on: April 05, 2018, 04:51:59 pm »
Retirement age used to be 50 if you joined between 18 and 20 but believe it is now 60.
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

Walter Mitty

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Re: Firemen
« Reply #46 on: April 05, 2018, 05:01:09 pm »
About 20 years ago, I phoned a fireman who had been putting leaflets through some of my customers' doors.  I wanted to give (not sell) him some of my less profitable work because I was oversubscribed.  After a nervous start (he wondered if I was going to pull the "my patch" line) he thanked me and said that he now had enough work because he only wanted some extra to top up his fire brigade money.
Eventually our paths crossed and we shared a few coffees and chats, and I gave him a few pointers.  He retired from the brigade a few years ago and packed up window cleaning about two years back (he had scaled it down by then).
He gave me about two days worth of work - free of charge - as a thank you for helping him in the early months.

KS Cleaning

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Re: Firemen
« Reply #47 on: April 05, 2018, 07:31:54 pm »
Had Cbeebies on the other day.

Fireman Sam was cavassing for window cleaning work on his 4 days off to make ends meet and was teaching the kids watching about the values of not undercutting.

Good on him I say.
'Naughty' Norman Price will still undercut despite Fireman Sam's words of wisdom.
I just know it  >:(.
It's the window cleaning industry that suffers because of the likes of Dilys's wayward offspring.
I wish my kids were still young so I had an excuse to watch Fireman Sam, I really do miss the antics of Norman Price >:(

G Griffin

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Re: Firemen
« Reply #48 on: April 05, 2018, 07:34:42 pm »
Had Cbeebies on the other day.

Fireman Sam was cavassing for window cleaning work on his 4 days off to make ends meet and was teaching the kids watching about the values of not undercutting.

Good on him I say.
'Naughty' Norman Price will still undercut despite Fireman Sam's words of wisdom.
I just know it  >:(.
It's the window cleaning industry that suffers because of the likes of Dilys's wayward offspring.
I wish my kids were still young so I had an excuse to watch Fireman Sam, I really do miss the antics of Norman Price >:(
Aw, Mam!  ;D
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Granny

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Re: Firemen
« Reply #49 on: April 05, 2018, 07:35:43 pm »
Im not , i know bungle is a troll , it was aimed at granny.
Granny Says.
I only come on here every few months just to wind you up and it never fails!



G Griffin

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Re: Firemen
« Reply #50 on: April 05, 2018, 07:39:37 pm »
Im not , i know bungle is a troll , it was aimed at granny.
Granny Says.
I only come on here every few months just to wind you up and it never fails!
You da man, Granny. 
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robert mitchell

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Re: Firemen
« Reply #51 on: April 06, 2018, 12:04:07 am »
Im not , i know bungle is a troll , it was aimed at granny.
Granny Says.
I only come on here every few months just to wind you up and it never fails!

I’m not wound up, don’t remember you either .
www.ishinewindowcleaning.co.uk

The man who never made a mistake never made anything.

harv deek

Re: Firemen
« Reply #52 on: April 06, 2018, 06:20:33 am »
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Stoots

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Re: Firemen
« Reply #53 on: April 06, 2018, 07:01:52 am »
""Seriously, who cares if they earn a few bob on the side. They do a ridiculously dangerous job and the wages doesn’t equal the risk.""

Health and Safety ensure they don't do a "ridiculously dangerous job".
Like the Manchester Arena bombing when they were told to stay 3 miles away while the public looked after the injured?
" and the wages"
You ever seen a Fireman job advertised?
No, me neither it's a closed shop.
No one ever leaves the fire service once they're in.
I don't know of any other "essential service" job where you can also run a business on the side.
There are loads working round here and I have picked up work after them and most were cash jobs.




You oviously don’t look in the right places as the jobs are advertised for all to apply for although there are quite often hundreds of applications for a few jobs
Why did the Manchester crews stay away from the scene if you were in the job you would understand why there are protocols to adhear to weather we like it or not and some times cock ups are made by lack of communication between different organisations  , I think this will become apparent in the forth coming enquiries
Is it a dangerous job yes it can be you have a bad day cleaning windows you might break a window : get it wrong when fighting a fire you don’t get a second chance try googling flashover and backdraft see if you would like to go into a building and experience that , I’ve did the job for 30 years and people with an attitude like yours is very uncommon most appreciate what the emergence services do , do we always get it right no do you ? No , look at the grenfell tower block fire that shows the British fire service at its best we are world leaders in the way the Fireservice works at ground level with the training and profecianalism of its members it’s only when you get up into very senior management that are far removed from the real working environment that things go wrong
When they ( wholetime firefighters) are on days off if they choose to have a second job or run there own buisness window cleaning or anything else why shouldn’t they ? We live in a free country where ones can choose what they want to do not a dictatorship where you are told what to do . Many people have two or three jobs that’s there choise : a wholetime firefighter has to have permission from the brigade before doing a second job I personally don’t think that they should have to but that’s the way it is
No one ever leaves the Fireservice again how wrong you are retention of personal is a very big issue especially for on call staff , would you be prepared to give 120 + hours a week cover for 3k a year ? Jump out of your bed 3 times a night ? Drop what you are doing with your own buisness to go and deal with an rtc where some drunk has had an accident . Be verbally abused for trying to help people? And so the list  goes on : you need to sit down and think about your comments before coming out with such rubbish


Whilst I respect all the emergency services and the job they do.

You can't choose to be a fireman then moan about the job, the hours, the pay or the danger. You know all that when you sign up.

If you don't like it then leave and find another job.

"I've worked here for 20 years, it's dangerous, the pay is rubbish and the hours long" 

Well don't do it then!


Jonny Swirljet

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Re: Firemen
« Reply #54 on: April 06, 2018, 07:14:48 am »
Why don't we stop trying to find reasons to hate each other and start enjoying life again. I know it's a cliché but the day after my heart attack these sort of petty differences ceased to be of concern to me. 

Stoots

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Re: Firemen
« Reply #55 on: April 06, 2018, 07:26:22 am »
Why don't we stop trying to find reasons to hate each other and start enjoying life again. I know it's a cliché but the day after my heart attack these sort of petty differences ceased to be of concern to me.

I think for most this forum is just something to do.

A lot of us type utter rubbish (yep me too)
Some of it we mean and some we probably don't. Most of us are sole traders who work in solitude so coming on here and having a little debate is something  to do.

Dont take it at all serious, it's just a forum.
I just find it amusing.

Re: Firemen
« Reply #56 on: April 06, 2018, 07:42:44 am »
a lot of firemen are terrible thieves.  i spose the temptations there youre called to a shop on fire and on your way thru the stockroom oooer whats that, - in the pocket it goes

 you cross the line once ,maybe as a firemen of 25 you see the chief pocketing summat -and youre stealing for the next 20 years

Either dyslexic. Thick as poo... or Samson. Or all three.

Walter Mitty

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Re: Firemen
« Reply #57 on: April 06, 2018, 07:46:56 am »
a lot of firemen are terrible thieves.  i spose the temptations there youre called to a shop on fire and on your way thru the stockroom oooer whats that, - in the pocket it goes

 you cross the line once ,maybe as a firemen of 25 you see the chief pocketing summat -and youre stealing for the next 20 years

I assume this is a wind-up?
It's as bad as stereotyping window cleaners as thieves who errr interact physically with bored housewives.
If a fire brigade worker gets a conviction for anything, whether or not it's related to their job, they are straight out the door.

Shrek

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Re: Firemen
« Reply #58 on: April 06, 2018, 07:56:11 am »
I think this thread is getting worse , there’s no need to bad mouth firefighters  . There’s some really negative, jealous people around who just bitch about other people instead of doing something about it and improving their own lives.
Needs to be locked really , I don’t think it’s good that ciu has a thread slagging off firefighters

andyM

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Re: Firemen
« Reply #59 on: April 06, 2018, 08:01:46 am »
a lot of firemen are terrible thieves.  i spose the temptations there youre called to a shop on fire and on your way thru the stockroom oooer whats that, - in the pocket it goes

 you cross the line once ,maybe as a firemen of 25 you see the chief pocketing summat -and youre stealing for the next 20 years

Either dyslexic. Thick as poo... or Samson. Or all three.


My money is on Bobby P
One of the Plebs