[Mick Kent]

This is why i stay clear of commercial work.
I used to clean some very large houses  that a private  firm owned for kids in care, my wife worked their and I knew how much they got oer chikd and how much they spent on things. But it after a couple of years they were trying to cut cost here n there and enquiring about prices from other shiners. One got the contract for being ten pound cheaper!

I dont think commercial is worth it, i stay well clear now. Even from local stores like your saying. They expect to soend pittance on them and some suckers out there are happy to work for pittance

You need to open your eyes dear friend!

Can easily hit £500 plus doing commercial, not silly little retail shops though.

You can do that in domestics if you work a full day.

Yes  but not day in day out per man! If you can then fair play.

[John Mart]

This is why i stay clear of commercial work.
I used to clean some very large houses  that a private  firm owned for kids in care, my wife worked their and I knew how much they got oer chikd and how much they spent on things. But it after a couple of years they were trying to cut cost here n there and enquiring about prices from other shiners. One got the contract for being ten pound cheaper!

I dont think commercial is worth it, i stay well clear now. Even from local stores like your saying. They expect to soend pittance on them and some suckers out there are happy to work for pittance

You need to open your eyes dear friend!

Can easily hit £500 plus doing commercial, not silly little retail shops though.

You can do that in domestics if you work a full day.

Yes  but not day in day out per man! If you can then fair play.

8-4 we could do it every day but we work 9-3.30/4 so don’t hit that very often.

[Stoots]

500 a day on domestic

feck a duck 

[Bungle]

This is why i stay clear of commercial work.
I used to clean some very large houses  that a private  firm owned for kids in care, my wife worked their and I knew how much they got oer chikd and how much they spent on things. But it after a couple of years they were trying to cut cost here n there and enquiring about prices from other shiners. One got the contract for being ten pound cheaper!

I dont think commercial is worth it, i stay well clear now. Even from local stores like your saying. They expect to soend pittance on them and some suckers out there are happy to work for pittance

You need to open your eyes dear friend!

Can easily hit £500 plus doing commercial, not silly little retail shops though.

You can do that in domestics if you work a full day.

Yes  but not day in day out per man! If you can then fair play.

8-4 we could do it every day but we work 9-3.30/4 so don’t hit that very often.

What a ridiculous answer. I could do a grand a day if I worked 24 hours a day. Trouble is I haven't got enough customers to do it 😂. FFS some of the comments on this forum 🙄

[Bungle]

Oh and he said 'we'. Is that as in we as in more than one person or in we as in me but want to sound like there's more than me?

[Plankton]

I done £180 in half a shift last week which I was chuffed with, I stopped at lunch and didn't bother going back out.
I got that garage although it was a bit of a pain doing it trad but quoting another tomorrow plus I'll chance my arm in a couple of other places so I better have a shave! I would like to pick up a few hundred quid of windows so need to suss out these shops and offices for pricing, no point doing it if there paying peanuts thought.

[Pete Thompson]

You can do very good work on both commercial and residential. There are pros and cons to both:

Residential:
+ relatively easy to get
+ customers are loyal
+ losing one or two doesn’t have a major impact
+ more flexible than some commercial
+ no compliance issues usually

- can be a pain to deal with (nutters)
- can be fussy about wet weather working
- more admin per £1 of work
- sensitive about who actually does the cleaning

Commercial:
+ Higher value so a good way to get a lot of work quickly
+ not much admin per £1 worked
+ not sensitive about who does the work
+ usually parking is not a problem
+ wet weather working not a problem

- losing one or two contracts can be a bigger impact on your turnover.
- not much loyalty, especially when staff and managers change
- more compliance faff
- harder to get than residential

You have to be careful that any one or two contracts don’t make up too much of your turnover, otherwise losing them could see you in dire straits.

(BTW I’m not talking about shops. I’ve never ever done, nor will I ever do, shops. Most want cleaning weekly which is no good for me at all)

[John Mart]

This is why i stay clear of commercial work.
I used to clean some very large houses  that a private  firm owned for kids in care, my wife worked their and I knew how much they got oer chikd and how much they spent on things. But it after a couple of years they were trying to cut cost here n there and enquiring about prices from other shiners. One got the contract for being ten pound cheaper!

I dont think commercial is worth it, i stay well clear now. Even from local stores like your saying. They expect to soend pittance on them and some suckers out there are happy to work for pittance

You need to open your eyes dear friend!

Can easily hit £500 plus doing commercial, not silly little retail shops though.

You can do that in domestics if you work a full day.

Yes  but not day in day out per man! If you can then fair play.

8-4 we could do it every day but we work 9-3.30/4 so don’t hit that very often.

What a ridiculous answer. I could do a grand a day if I worked 24 hours a day. Trouble is I haven't got enough customers to do it 😂. FFS some of the comments on this forum 🙄

Not ridiculous at all. Mick said you could do £500 a day on commercial and I said if my chaps worked 8-4.30 or 9-5 they’d do that every day. As it is they work until about 3.30 and leave the yard at 9. They are given £400 a day, which they achieve every day although that includes VAT.  I have the work btw.

Interestingly one of my guys has requested overtime and my proposal is to add £30 to his daily pay to achieve £500 a day. Again including VAT. That’s why I commented. Also from past comments Mick puts in long days to achieve £500 a day.

Commercial isn’t the holy grail.

[NWH]

Yes you can easily do that kind of money on commercial I’ve got jobs Where I’m 150-200 up by 10 o’clock but they are not set in stone when it comes to keeping them,if I had a complete business with this kind of work I’d be stressed in the knowledge I may lose a lot of work at anytime. The economy plays a much much bigger role in the commercial sector,not half as important in the domestic one,you might get put back a month on houses but if a business closes your going with em.

[Walter Mitty]

Best way to keep commercial jobs is to bung the person in charge if they seem that type of person some cash in hand every 6-12 months to keep the job,I’ve done it myself in the past it gave me confidence I wouldn’t lose the work and I never did.

I was asked for a backhander once.  Turned him down.  Never got the job.  Can look in the mirror so hope I never get tempted in future.  Not judging what you or anyone else does as we all have different ways of doing things.

[NWH]

It’s the way the world works I’m afraid of you think different you are mistaken,I do a big place she’s divorced him now but I said to her one day how come when any land comes up for sale your ex always gets in there first for development,she simply looked at me and said as I’ve known her for years you have to look after the right people financially or you’ll never get started.

[nathankaye]

This is why i stay clear of commercial work.
I used to clean some very large houses  that a private  firm owned for kids in care, my wife worked their and I knew how much they got oer chikd and how much they spent on things. But it after a couple of years they were trying to cut cost here n there and enquiring about prices from other shiners. One got the contract for being ten pound cheaper!

I dont think commercial is worth it, i stay well clear now. Even from local stores like your saying. They expect to soend pittance on them and some suckers out there are happy to work for pittance

You need to open your eyes dear friend!

Can easily hit £500 plus doing commercial, not silly little retail shops though.

You can do that in domestics if you work a full day.

Yes  but not day in day out per man! If you can then fair play.

8-4 we could do it every day but we work 9-3.30/4 so don’t hit that very often.

What a ridiculous answer. I could do a grand a day if I worked 24 hours a day. Trouble is I haven't got enough customers to do it 😂. FFS some of the comments on this forum 🙄

Not ridiculous at all. Mick said you could do £500 a day on commercial and I said if my chaps worked 8-4.30 or 9-5 they’d do that every day. As it is they work until about 3.30 and leave the yard at 9. They are given £400 a day, which they achieve every day although that includes VAT.  I have the work btw.

Interestingly one of my guys has requested overtime and my proposal is to add £30 to his daily pay to achieve £500 a day. Again including VAT. That’s why I commented. Also from past comments Mick puts in long days to achieve £500 a day.

Commercial isn’t the holy grail.

This is on the assumption then of two man bands or perhaps teams.
What about the one man machines

[Marc Stock]

Well i am a one man machine. And when im working i usually get through £300 a day at least. Sometimes its more. 3 and 2 thrd days a week.

But i am pushing for an 80k turnover in a 15 month period so i can employ someone full time to free up other interests.

[Stoots]

Well i am a one man machine. And when im working i usually get through £300 a day at least. Sometimes its more. 3 and 2 thrd days a week.

But i am pushing for an 80k turnover in a 15 month period so i can employ someone full time to free up other interests.

What hours do you do per day mark to hit 300 plus?

[John Mart]

This is why i stay clear of commercial work.
I used to clean some very large houses  that a private  firm owned for kids in care, my wife worked their and I knew how much they got oer chikd and how much they spent on things. But it after a couple of years they were trying to cut cost here n there and enquiring about prices from other shiners. One got the contract for being ten pound cheaper!

I dont think commercial is worth it, i stay well clear now. Even from local stores like your saying. They expect to soend pittance on them and some suckers out there are happy to work for pittance

You need to open your eyes dear friend!

Can easily hit £500 plus doing commercial, not silly little retail shops though.

You can do that in domestics if you work a full day.

Yes  but not day in day out per man! If you can then fair play.

8-4 we could do it every day but we work 9-3.30/4 so don’t hit that very often.

What a ridiculous answer. I could do a grand a day if I worked 24 hours a day. Trouble is I haven't got enough customers to do it 😂. FFS some of the comments on this forum 🙄

Not ridiculous at all. Mick said you could do £500 a day on commercial and I said if my chaps worked 8-4.30 or 9-5 they’d do that every day. As it is they work until about 3.30 and leave the yard at 9. They are given £400 a day, which they achieve every day although that includes VAT.  I have the work btw.

Interestingly one of my guys has requested overtime and my proposal is to add £30 to his daily pay to achieve £500 a day. Again including VAT. That’s why I commented. Also from past comments Mick puts in long days to achieve £500 a day.

Commercial isn’t the holy grail.

This is on the assumption then of two man bands or perhaps teams.
What about the one man machines

One man, one van.

[Mick Kent]

I didnt say i cleaned £500 a day... id have the hump if i only hit that!! 

[Marc Stock]

Well i am a one man machine. And when im working i usually get through £300 a day at least. Sometimes its more. 3 and 2 thrd days a week.

But i am pushing for an 80k turnover in a 15 month period so i can employ someone full time to free up other interests.

What hours do you do per day mark to hit 300 plus?

Normally around 5-6 hours