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[Missing Link]

I'm starting to do front squats now; apparently they're meant to make any weaknesses more apparent.  I'm just getting used to the exercise, so going easy right now.  Wednesday is my 'leg day', but it kills my legs for speed, which is on a Thursday, so I don't go overboard; I try to keep the weight heavy and reps low; three sets only.  Low volume.

But there's no good day to do weights on your legs when you run regularly. 

I'm a fan of dumb bell walking lunges; that really seems to help with running hills.

[dazmond]

I'm starting to do front squats now; apparently they're meant to make any weaknesses more apparent.  I'm just getting used to the exercise, so going easy right now.  Wednesday is my 'leg day', but it kills my legs for speed, which is on a Thursday, so I don't go overboard; I try to keep the weight heavy and reps low; three sets only.  Low volume.

But there's no good day to do weights on your legs when you run regularly. 

I'm a fan of dumb bell walking lunges; that really seems to help with running hills.

leg day for me today too tosh....but i dont do running.i dont know how you can as the next day after a workout my legs are sore and the day after that their even worse!i only train my legs once a week too(the other 2 sessions are upper body)

ill do 3 sets of dumbbell squats,3 sets of dumbbell (or barbell) deadlifts,3 sets of leg press,3 sets of leg extensions,3 sets of leg curls,at least 6 sets of 12-15 reps for my calves,some extra shoulder work,abs and 15-20 mins cardio.....my sets for legs are usually in the 10-15 rep range.i cant do lunges as it hurts my right knee so i avoid them......

[NWH]

Hi reps low weight is a waste of time unless your training for a show your muscles will not respond to that at all,if you want definition or any change in muscle shape you have to train to failure. Have you heard the expression no pain no gain,it’s never a truer philosophy in bodybuilding or anything to do with using weights. You may as well go down there and stare at the crumpet at least then 1 muscle will be being flexed 😂

[NWH]

If you want to keep fit go on the bike or cross trainer you’ll lose weight and make your muscles look bigger but that’s all they will do look bigger. If you’ve done your legs properly to failure you shouldn’t be able to walk properly until the lactic acid drains from them,barbell squats 😂,Daz you should try yoga.

[Shrek]

Hi reps low weight is a waste of time unless your training for a show your muscles will not respond to that at all,if you want definition or any change in muscle shape you have to train to failure. Have you heard the expression no pain no gain,it’s never a truer philosophy in bodybuilding or anything to do with using weights. You may as well go down there and stare at the crumpet at least then 1 muscle will be being flexed 😂

Never follow ‘no pain , no gain’ ...... instead you should ‘feel the burn !!’

[paul alan]

I'm starting to do front squats now; apparently they're meant to make any weaknesses more apparent.  I'm just getting used to the exercise, so going easy right now.  Wednesday is my 'leg day', but it kills my legs for speed, which is on a Thursday, so I don't go overboard; I try to keep the weight heavy and reps low; three sets only.  Low volume.

But there's no good day to do weights on your legs when you run regularly. 

I'm a fan of dumb bell walking lunges; that really seems to help with running hills.

leg day for me today too tosh....but i dont do running.i dont know how you can as the next day after a workout my legs are sore and the day after that their even worse!i only train my legs once a week too(the other 2 sessions are upper body)

ill do 3 sets of dumbbell squats,3 sets of dumbbell (or barbell) deadlifts,3 sets of leg press,3 sets of leg extensions,3 sets of leg curls,at least 6 sets of 12-15 reps for my calves,some extra shoulder work,abs and 15-20 mins cardio.....my sets for legs are usually in the 10-15 rep range.i cant do lunges as it hurts my right knee so i avoid them......

That's an awful lot of volume daz, how's your recovery?

[dazmond]

Hi reps low weight is a waste of time unless your training for a show your muscles will not respond to that at all,if you want definition or any change in muscle shape you have to train to failure. Have you heard the expression no pain no gain,it’s never a truer philosophy in bodybuilding or anything to do with using weights. You may as well go down there and stare at the crumpet at least then 1 muscle will be being flexed 😂

you really do talk some rubbish at times nigel.....theres no right or wrong way......i do train to failure.i find my legs respond better with higher reps.....

[dazmond]

I'm starting to do front squats now; apparently they're meant to make any weaknesses more apparent.  I'm just getting used to the exercise, so going easy right now.  Wednesday is my 'leg day', but it kills my legs for speed, which is on a Thursday, so I don't go overboard; I try to keep the weight heavy and reps low; three sets only.  Low volume.

But there's no good day to do weights on your legs when you run regularly. 

I'm a fan of dumb bell walking lunges; that really seems to help with running hills.

leg day for me today too tosh....but i dont do running.i dont know how you can as the next day after a workout my legs are sore and the day after that their even worse!i only train my legs once a week too(the other 2 sessions are upper body)

ill do 3 sets of dumbbell squats,3 sets of dumbbell (or barbell) deadlifts,3 sets of leg press,3 sets of leg extensions,3 sets of leg curls,at least 6 sets of 12-15 reps for my calves,some extra shoulder work,abs and 15-20 mins cardio.....my sets for legs are usually in the 10-15 rep range.i cant do lunges as it hurts my right knee so i avoid them......

That's an awful lot of volume daz, how's your recovery?

i only work out 3 times a week mate (usually)......i dont think my volume is excessive.....

[dazmond]

If you want to keep fit go on the bike or cross trainer you’ll lose weight and make your muscles look bigger but that’s all they will do look bigger. If you’ve done your legs properly to failure you shouldn’t be able to walk properly until the lactic acid drains from them,barbell squats 😂,Daz you should try yoga.

why would anyone want to train their legs that hard they cant walk properly?its pathetic if you ask me.....

my legs are usually sore for a few days after a workout but i can still walk and go about my daily business/work etc....

[Missing Link]

What do you guys think of this (since it's turned into a weight lifting post):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_m0sdG2DI4

It's full body workouts versus splits; it basically reckons that people on 'gear' respond better to splits, whereas those who aren't respond better to full body workouts.

It also has a take on going to failure that's contrary to my own.  I generally go to failure, as in proper failure, and might cheat or be assisted with the last rep.  I might even take a 'rest pause' (a five second rest) to do another rep or two.

But they reckon it's better to just go to failure and not push beyond what you can do yourself, using proper form.

Thoughts?

[dazmond]

interesting that tosh.......ive decided to have a week off the gym til next monday.....ive noticed ive been getting weaker in the gym lately and my right knee has flared up again as well as my left ankle(torn ligaments a few year ago)......

sometimes you gotta take a break to recover fully and gain strength back....

i think ill switch it up from monday and go back to 3 full body workouts a week and cut the volume and give it 2 months and see how i go on....


cheers for the video tosh....

[Paul Wisdom]

GOD - how has these become such a boring gym thread. NEVER been in a friggin Gym in my life and I never will.

Get fit with graft and earn money doing it instead of paying gym membership. 

[paul alan]

What do you guys think of this (since it's turned into a weight lifting post):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_m0sdG2DI4

It's full body workouts versus splits; it basically reckons that people on 'gear' respond better to splits, whereas those who aren't respond better to full body workouts.

It also has a take on going to failure that's contrary to my own.  I generally go to failure, as in proper failure, and might cheat or be assisted with the last rep.  I might even take a 'rest pause' (a five second rest) to do another rep or two.

But they reckon it's better to just go to failure and not push beyond what you can do yourself, using proper form.

Thoughts?

Going to failure will destroy your recovery, I can personally vouch for that as I have been there and done it.

"grinder" reps where you are struggling like mad and shaking and barely get the rep are bad for you as a natural, steroids enhance your recovery ability so you can train as much as you like and be recovered for the next day. As a natural you need longer to recover.
Lower reps are aimed at building muscle through strength gains, the type of muscle that will stay with you even after a layoff whereas higher rep training is pumping your muscles up and will quickly disappear when you stop training.

Higher reps have never done anything for me, lower reps have always worked.

Look up eric helms and team 3dj who have done modern research on natural trainees. These guys are on the ball and well respected in they're field.

[Don Kee]

What do you guys think of this (since it's turned into a weight lifting post):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_m0sdG2DI4

It's full body workouts versus splits; it basically reckons that people on 'gear' respond better to splits, whereas those who aren't respond better to full body workouts.

It also has a take on going to failure that's contrary to my own.  I generally go to failure, as in proper failure, and might cheat or be assisted with the last rep.  I might even take a 'rest pause' (a five second rest) to do another rep or two.

But they reckon it's better to just go to failure and not push beyond what you can do yourself, using proper form.

Thoughts?

Watched the first few mins.

I’ve always followed similar. 5x5 work out 3 days a week to build, spilts to ‘tone out’.

5x5 is basically full body, and your last rep of the 25 will be your failure rep if you’ve judged it properly.
It means you can do the work out 3 times a week and you should be able to quickly start lifting heavier as your muscles should start to respond to the heavier weights as you’re repeatedly working them.

If you train to ‘proper’ failure, you wont move for the next few days. And if you stop due to injury etc...you’ll lose the ‘strength’ quicker in my experiance.

[robbo333]

I am in awe of all you guys, I have a little fat belly and i'm proud of it!

About a year ago, I got diagnosed with Coeliac disease. Basically, this means that I could never get the nourishment from my food properly, so I could never put on weight. As a child, I was skinny and as a teenager I went to the gym. I could never hit above 9.5stone. I had muscle (but 9.5 stone) and everyone told me what I should be eating. I ate everything and in the end, people used to take the p and say I should just eat lard! I started drinking 4 pints of guinness every night to help put weight on, but nothing.

I always put my slim build down to stress, so I left it at that. I went up to about 10 stone in mid life and about 2 years ago (age 52) I went down to 9.5 stone and my missus started to worry. I was fricken bone! After a trip to the hospital and a camera down my throat, I got diagnosed with Coeliac disease. (Simply...don't eat gluten). Yes I am 'Gluten Free'. Apparently it's fashionable!

Now, I am up to 12 stone...Yay!!! I have work trousers, that I used to hold up with braces (because a belt became useless) that now, I have to undo the top button to put them on. I have a little belly, never had one before!

So guys, try and be happy with, 'where you're at' and would I consider an electric reel? I think I might put it on my list. 

[paul alan]

Being happy with "where you're at" could never be for me.

Progress =happiness for me.

Staying put while everyone else moves forward=going backward.

[dazmond]

every time i start to lose motivation for working out in the gym and start to lose strength i take a complete week off from lifting.ill still eat roughly the same food and do my yoga stretching,walking etc.....i dont lose any muscle whatsoever.it would take 3 or 4 weeks of doing nothing to start to lose muscle....

..ive also changed my attitude (to not beat myself up when i do take a break)....its necessary if i  want to carry on progressing.

as for training splits/full body workouts etc,etc.i think they all work.the key i think is training intensity and focus when your actually working out.how many guys/gals in your local gym have intensity and focus during their  hour long workouts?...not many.....most are constantly distracted by their smartphones/ipods.(i never take my phone in the gym by the way)

[Splash & dash]

Thought this was a thread about electric reels making life easier not a work out routine at the gym

[dazmond]

also when i take a break i usually feel much better when im back in the gym the following week,i also change my workout routine a bit to freshen things up a bit.....

its a learning curve.....we all become are own personal trainer given enough time and experience......