[Slacky]

Peacocking! they call it nowadays.

Mirror queens.

[Shrek]

agreed Daz, you wanna get big eat more, you might not be able to get AS big as Ronnie Coleman, but why would you want to, functional fitness is where its at!

Being as big as Ronnie Coleman isn’t a good thing long term ...

[NWH]

Look at poor old ronnies wrists that’s human growth hormone for you lol

[Shrek]

Look at poor old ronnies wrists that’s human growth hormone for you lol

He’s worth 10 million dollars but he’s falling to bits now, shame , he used to be my idol !

[NWH]

NO amount of money is any good to him now his liver and kidneys have probably had it and his heart will be 2-3 times the size it should be,the hearts a muscle steroids will make it grow just like every other muscle. I had a look a couple of years ago at some that were around in the 90s,I couldn’t believe how many had died it was shocking to read.

[Missing Link]

. I had a look a couple of years ago at some that were around in the 90s,I couldn’t believe how many had died it was shocking to read.

My old gym was a proper meat head gym where the serious lifters go.  The auld guy who ran it has been into bodybuilding since the early 80s and has judged at many competitions all over the world.

He discourages the use of 'juice' at his gym because he says it affects the gym's atmosphere. 

But like you say, he lists plenty he's known, and trained, including women, who're now dead.  He'll even give a guided tour, pointing at the old photos on the wall, of who is dead.  He says they look healthy on the outside, but not on the inside.

[Missing Link]

I've got a mate who has had a lot of lower back problems and he's had an xray and he's found out he's got a herniated lower disc.

He blames his navy days for that, steel decks, climbing vertical ladders and rugby.

But the thing is, he's been out of the navy for at least fifteen years; maybe longer.

He's overweight and google tells me that's the cause.

This kind of denial isn't just limited to alkies.

[paul alan]

There is a guy who was telling me about how he can bench press 200kg.

Next he's saying how he can only bench 180kg now and that's because of using wfp thats too heavy?

[dazmond]

There is a guy who was telling me about how he can bench press 200kg.

Next he's saying how he can only bench 180kg now and that's because of using wfp thats too heavy?

i couldnt give a toss how much weight a guy can bench press (or squat for that matter).i never have and never will.i dont do bench press anyway.....dumbbell press only for me for chest....i get a better range of motion and its better for the shoulders long term.... .

i dont do squats either........

[p1w1]

There is a guy who was telling me about how he can bench press 200kg.

Next he's saying how he can only bench 180kg now and that's because of using wfp thats too heavy?

i couldnt give a toss how much weight a guy can bench press (or squat for that matter).i never have and never will.i dont do bench press anyway.....dumbbell press only for me for chest....i get a better range of motion and its better for the shoulders long term.... .

i dont do diddly squat either........

FTFY

[dazmond]

There is a guy who was telling me about how he can bench press 200kg.

Next he's saying how he can only bench 180kg now and that's because of using wfp thats too heavy?

i couldnt give a toss how much weight a guy can bench press (or squat for that matter).i never have and never will.i dont do bench press anyway.....dumbbell press only for me for chest....i get a better range of motion and its better for the shoulders long term.... .

i dont do diddly squat either........

FTFY

 

[paul alan]

Barbell training is at the very core of proper strength training and bodybuilding. And if your not gauging your lifts how do you know where you progressing?

Once you get past your newbie gains and plateau (everyone does) then you will have to start taking your routines and exercise selection seriously in order to keep progressing.

I remember my first couple of years it was amazing, I grew from anything. After that, things start getting tougher.

[dazmond]

Barbell training is at the very core of proper strength training and bodybuilding. And if your not gauging your lifts how do you know where you progressing?

Once you get past your newbie gains and plateau (everyone does) then you will have to start taking your routines and exercise selection seriously in order to keep progressing.

I remember my first couple of years it was amazing, I grew from anything. After that, things start getting tougher.

i dont want to get any bigger mate..im already 6ft 2in and 250lb(most of it muscle).i dont have to lift stupidly heavy weights to grow muscle.i never have....

also i was into weight training in my teens and early twenties and muscles never forget(muscle memory)so its been fairly easy to build up again....i am surprised a bit though as i thought i was past it a few years ago but obviously not(even at 46).

you can build muscle just  using machines,your bodyweight or just dumbbells you dont have to use a barbell......and you certainly dont have to bench press with a barbell to build up your chest.its not good for your shoulders lifting heavy either long term,no need....

[Missing Link]

i dont do squats either........

Why don't you do squats?

[paul alan]

When my boy was born 5 years ago I was the same weight as you at the same height and I was huge, mantank they used to call me at the gym. Was seriously strong as well. So I can imagine how big you are mate. I am now 3 stone lighter and much more athletic type build. I feel much happier like this at 205lbs, soon I'll be around 195lbs.

I can move around much easier and now I'm kickboxing again Its much better for me being lighter. My work days are much easier too.

I was "boosting" at the time to reach that size so you must be naturally a big dude.

More power to you mate!

[Missing Link]

Once you get past your newbie gains and plateau (everyone does) then you will have to start taking your routines and exercise selection seriously in order to keep progressing.

The principle behind that is the same for most things I think.

[paul alan]

i dont do squats either........

Why don't you do squats?

Because squats, deadlifts and barbell exercises are often neglected by people due to the nature of them --Hard to do!!!

[paul alan]

Once you get past your newbie gains and plateau (everyone does) then you will have to start taking your routines and exercise selection seriously in order to keep progressing.

The principle behind that is the same for most things I think.

Can tell your no spring chicken!  Would swap wisdom for youth any day.

[dazmond]

i dont do squats either........

Why don't you do squats?

well i do but not with a barbell on my back/shoulders....i have a dodgy knee from 17 years climbing ladders and playing football when i was younger.also its easy to put your back out so i do bodyweight and dumbbell squats instead....

some exercises are not suitable for some of us........esp as we get older.....

[dazmond]

i dont do squats either........

Why don't you do squats?

Because squats, deadlifts and barbell exercises are often neglected by people due to the nature of them --Hard to do!!!

i use a barbell for military presses/deadlifts and curls.......