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Marc Stock

Next week will be a good test.
« on: March 02, 2018, 07:41:46 am »
Well,having yesterday off and today has meant that next week i am working monday through to friday full time with well over £1600 to get through. This is the weekly figure i need to hit to get to my 80k a year target. It will be a good test to see if i can produce that level of work easily.

Normally i work 4 days a week, well 3 and a 3rd because the last working day on the fridays  i tend to do my quarterly cleans.

How about you guys?

alank

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Re: Next week will be a good test.
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2018, 07:56:05 am »

I think it may take a while for this to melt where we are ;D

Tom-01

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Re: Next week will be a good test.
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2018, 08:01:37 am »
Marc have you based your £80k on working 50 weeks per year then? That doesn't leave a lot of wriggle room - we have 8 bank holidays a year alone and as this week has shown a few days can be lost, and this doesn't include holidays.

The windows we have due next week along with the gutters we didn't do this week we have £10k to get done, between two of us - don't think we'll get it all done! We'll get some extra help in I think and work a few Saturdays to get the cash flow back up to speed. Although this doesn't include the extra jobs that have come in this week.

I'm in a bit of a pickle though as I have to have shoulder surgery in May, which means I can't do any physical work for 6-9 months. I need to work out a plan to help cover the work I won't be able to do.

Cookie

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Re: Next week will be a good test.
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2018, 08:40:08 am »
After being forced to take a week off because of the bad weather it'll be very tempting to start up again next week "all guns blazing" but you still need to pace yourself....

Pesronally I'm not going to attempt to catch up on the work I've missed. I'm just going to run a week behind schedule.


Marc Stock

Re: Next week will be a good test.
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2018, 08:41:41 am »
Yes it is a  bit tight, but these are 4-5hour working days maximum, so.

By time i am hitting 60k a year i will have another van and a part time worker to balance out the work a little.

As i approach 80k i hope to have a full time employee, and then onwards to stage 2.

Cookie

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Re: Next week will be a good test.
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2018, 08:51:28 am »
Yes it is a  bit tight, but these are 4-5hour working days maximum, so.

OK. I like 4 to 5 hour working days. I'm trying to establish my round so I have no more than 6 hours per day 'on the glass'.

Walter Mitty

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Re: Next week will be a good test.
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2018, 09:37:16 am »
I will stay off today as another load of snow is forecast later today, but I intend to start back tomorrow (Saturday) if possible, on a load of low-level ladder work.

My goals are more modest but I will be canvassing soon and have a target of £1k to £1.1k a week by mid summer.  I don't want to go too crazy with it because my back and elbows sometimes give me an awkward time if I overdo it.

Don Kee

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Re: Next week will be a good test.
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2018, 09:47:35 am »

By time i am hitting 60k a year i will have another van and a part time worker to balance out the work a little.

As i approach 80k i hope to have a full time employee, and then onwards to stage 2.

Genuine question; out of interest if you can clean £1600 a week on your own, why do you need an employee when you hit £60k  a year?

You’ll be £20k short of work for one full time person (you) and you’ll then have a wage of around £26k a year so you’ll basically be in the exact position financially you’re in now (unless I’m missing something?)

You dont have to answer if you don’t want to, I know its a bit of a ‘delving into financials’ question.
Why don't you have a quick google before making stupid comments?

Slacky

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Re: Next week will be a good test.
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2018, 10:04:32 am »
Is your new enthusiasm a result of coming off your anti-depressants Mark or is it a sub-conscious means of avoidance of an under-lying, unadressed emotional issue.

If it’s the first, fair play, if it’s the second - look out!

Or maybe it’s neither. Just, you never used to post on here like this up until a month or two ago.

Marc Stock

Re: Next week will be a good test.
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2018, 10:08:00 am »
Yes it is a  bit tight, but these are 4-5hour working days maximum, so.

By time i am hitting 60k a year i will have another van and a part time worker to balance out the work a little.

As i approach 80k i hope to have a full time employee, and then onwards to stage 2.

Genuine question; out of interest if you can clean £1600 a week on your own, why do you need an employee when you hit £60k worth of work?

You’ll be £20k short of work for one full time person (you) and you’ll then have a wage of around £26k a year so you’ll basically be in the exact position financially you’re in now (unless I’m missing something?)

You dont have to answer if you don’t want to, I know its a bit of a ‘delving into financials’ question.

Of course, its a perfectly legitimate question.

Personally for me; i have had enough of window cleaning. I want the business to get to a stage where i don't actually have to do the work anymore by the time i am 40 years old. I turn 38 this year and i figure by the age of 40 if i continue with this plan i should have a self running window cleaning business where i no longer have to do the work myself if i don't want to.

At 60k turnover i will be able to still live, and pay my bills with a part-time worker, with my reduced time on the glass.  At that stage my job will change from full time window cleaner. to part time window cleaner, and part time canvasser. Then the last 20k push will happen relatively quickly because i will have 1, the time to do it 2, the energy. Then when I hit 80k turnover, i will employ a full time window cleaner, with a good salary and bonus structure, my job will change again from part-time canvasser to full time canvasser & business developer and i will get more work, and do the window cleaning for a while again until i get another employee to do the work. I will simply repeat this process.

Window cleaning is a great little business to be in, but i want new challenges in  my life. Bramar Ltd is the vehicle for those new challenges with the StockClean branded window cleaning business, i might go into drain jetting, or even commercial window cleaning again.  I will also look for new avenues of business with Bramar Ltd directly later on in life, possibly in facilities management.

Unfortunately though i still have bills to pay, rent to find, and kids stomachs to fill. So the window cleaning is very much the only way i can sustain any financial injection into my future plans. I don't have a house to sell to do it, or lottery winnings or money inheritance. i have to to it the slow way unfortunately.

But keeping these goals in mind, has made me enjoy my window cleaning business again, because i have a goal and a direction of what i want to achieve with it.

Hope that's a bit more helpful.







Marc Stock

Re: Next week will be a good test.
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2018, 10:24:02 am »
Is your new enthusiasm a result of coming off your anti-depressants Mark or is it a sub-conscious means of avoidance of an under-lying, unadressed emotional issue.

If it’s the first, fair play, if it’s the second - look out!

Or maybe it’s neither. Just, you never used to post on here like this up until a month or two ago.

 ;D ;D Cor Blimey That's a deep question. Id like to think the 1st, but i have recently discovered things in my personal life which i will not share on a public forum that has given me, lets say a different outlook on life.

For the last 10 years, i have spent the majority of that time looking at other people in a negative way. People that I used to be close to, I lost through alienation due to my unpredictable behavior, and i have done some pretty shocking things to what used to be my friends in the past. Through therapy i have been able to let go of some of that guilt from my stupidity in my early years i suppose. 

I will say they key person who has helped my is my wife, Debs. She has shown me so many new things about my own personality that i never understood, and helped me to manage it in a much better way. Coming off the meds has enabled me to come alive again.










dazmond

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Re: Next week will be a good test.
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2018, 10:39:29 am »
Well,having yesterday off and today has meant that next week i am working monday through to friday full time with well over £1600 to get through. This is the weekly figure i need to hit to get to my 80k a year target. It will be a good test to see if i can produce that level of work easily.

Normally i work 4 days a week, well 3 and a 3rd because the last working day on the fridays  i tend to do my quarterly cleans.

How about you guys?

i just moved my work schedule forward a week.sod trying to cram in this weeks lost work in as well.....lifes too short.....

i personally dont believe in working more than 30 hours a week now im in my mid forties.it stops burn out and getting fed up of the job....
price higher/work harder!

NWH

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Re: Next week will be a good test.
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2018, 10:42:19 am »
I’ve felt the same in the past after having time off trying to run round like an idiot it’s just not worth it,the 1st couple of days back and we will be back in the swing and sitting indoors for a few days will soon be missed enjoy the time off,at least we have a valid reason we have no reason to feel guilty about not working at the moment you will be probably the last thing on your customers minds at the mo.

dazmond

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Re: Next week will be a good test.
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2018, 10:45:49 am »
After being forced to take a week off because of the bad weather it'll be very tempting to start up again next week "all guns blazing" but you still need to pace yourself....

Pesronally I'm not going to attempt to catch up on the work I've missed. I'm just going to run a week behind schedule.

if you allow yourself say 6 weeks a year for holidays/sickness/bad weather days etc.one week off is nothing....and you dont feel bad that you ve lost out on earnings....

pacing yourself is very wise too.........no point trying to cram loads of work in and stressing yourself out...
price higher/work harder!

johnny bravo

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Re: Next week will be a good test.
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2018, 12:19:30 pm »
marc,   do you work on your own and making £60,000 a year,   you must charge  a price for your services.
correct me if i have it wrong,  but thats a very good wage to be coming in for a solo opperator

Stoots

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Re: Next week will be a good test.
« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2018, 12:56:38 pm »
Same as you Marc.

I need a record week next week (although we won't do 1600 quid even with lad helping me 16 hours)

This week's has hit me quite hard, I've just forked out for some canvassing and another van and then I only worked Monday and had to pay laddo his wages. We also got a massive leccy/gas bill to top it off.

Need 4 record weeks in march to claw it back. So normally I work 9-3, next week I will have to work till 5 most days.

swanson

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Re: Next week will be a good test.
« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2018, 01:24:27 pm »
I don't believe sometimes what I read on here.
I'm 50 years old work 6 days a week  5.30 am till aleast 5pm
And I breeze that.
As long as you have variation  which I do.
I wish I was forty again

Walter Mitty

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Re: Next week will be a good test.
« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2018, 01:32:42 pm »
I don't believe sometimes what I read on here.
I'm 50 years old work 6 days a week  5.30 am till aleast 5pm
And I breeze that.
As long as you have variation  which I do.
I wish I was forty again

I'm not sure what the hours you are capable of working has to do with the hours someone else is capable of working.
You can do things I can't.
I can do things you can't.
So what.  We're all different.

Apart from that, even if I were able to work 11.5 hours a day, I'd probably choose not to.

dazmond

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Re: Next week will be a good test.
« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2018, 01:57:21 pm »
I don't believe sometimes what I read on here.
I'm 50 years old work 6 days a week  5.30 am till aleast 5pm
And I breeze that.
As long as you have variation  which I do.
I wish I was forty again

really?i couldnt work them hours mate.25 -30 hours a week now at 46.ive got to fit in at least  3 weight training sessions in the gym per week ,rehearsals/gigs with my band(im a drummer),see the missus and the kids,take the dog for walks etc...i havent got the time/inclination to work the ridiculous hours you work....no need....your a long time dead mate....
price higher/work harder!

dazmond

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Re: Next week will be a good test.
« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2018, 02:01:26 pm »
also i find by working shorter hours im actually more productive....i dont tire as easily and get more work done........i dont hang about....splash and dash and im done......
price higher/work harder!