[Susan Dean (1stclean)]

all this chest thumping bout hot water and not one of you as said anything about the true figures and the re search    behind it  and how it works

What do you want to know ? To be fair there have been numerous threads about this subject just do a search Ime sure you will find most things have been covered many times

i agree with what your saying  but

could you tell me how much faster the molecules are moving in your hot water set up now compared the your old cold water set up ?  as its the faster rate these molecules move that make it better due to molecules moving faster when heated ? this is a proven fact and why hot works better hence we clean carpets useing 250 ° F most of the time not  crappy 40

[dazmond]

nathan i used to hate having to get the ladders off to scrape an egged window.now all i have to do is give the window a good soak with hot water,clean another window,then come back and give it a good scrub and rinse and it comes off!magic!

[Missing Link]

I just use a £50 Stanley space heater and leave it in the van overnight during these (rare) cold spells. Also I wear a decent pair of gloves during the day. It’s roughly £4450.00 cheaper than Daz’s option and does exactly the same thing.

 

Yeh, but they've got to justify spending the thousands on their diesel heaters and don't want to look daft; even to themselves. 

[dazmond]

all this chest thumping bout hot water and not one of you as said anything about the true figures and the re search    behind it  and how it works

What do you want to know ? To be fair there have been numerous threads about this subject just do a search Ime sure you will find most things have been covered many times

could you tell me how much faster the molecules are moving in your hot water set up now compared the your old cold water set up ?  as its the faster rate these molecules move that make it better due to molecules moving faster when heated ? this is a proven fact and why hot works better

what a stupid question susan?we re window cleaners not scientists!

at the end of the day hot water cleans easier,faster and better than cold water.thats all we need to know.

who really gives a s*** about molecules moving faster etc......it works!

[Missing Link]

nathan i used to hate having to get the ladders off to scrape an egged window.now all i have to do is give the window a good soak with hot water,clean another window,then come back and give it a good scrub and rinse and it comes off!magic!

Wet it, turn the brush to a slight angle, and use the edge to scrape off the bird poo.

Even Wor Lass, who is Welsh, can do it.

That'll be a tenner for the info.

[dazmond]

nathan i used to hate having to get the ladders off to scrape an egged window.now all i have to do is give the window a good soak with hot water,clean another window,then come back and give it a good scrub and rinse and it comes off!magic!

Wet it, turn the brush to a slight angle, and use the edge to scrape off the bird poo.

Even Wor Lass, who is Welsh, can do it.

That'll be a tenner for the info.

still doesnt work mate...even using a gardiners scraper will take ages with cold water....

we re talking about DRIED ON EGG ....not bird muck mate...

[Susan Dean (1stclean)]

all this chest thumping bout hot water and not one of you as said anything about the true figures and the re search    behind it  and how it works or did he just say " it works better because i said so " thats kind of stupid dont you think ?

What do you want to know ? To be fair there have been numerous threads about this subject just do a search Ime sure you will find most things have been covered many times

could you tell me how much faster the molecules are moving in your hot water set up now compared the your old cold water set up ?  as its the faster rate these molecules move that make it better due to molecules moving faster when heated ? this is a proven fact and why hot works better

what a stupid question susan?we re window cleaners not scientists!

at the end of the day hot water cleans easier,faster and better than cold water.thats all we need to know.

who really gives a s*** about molecules moving faster etc......it works!

why is it stupid ? surly spending 5k and not knowing why is works better is stupid ?  or did you just buy it because you read it on here ?  surly as you were handing 5000 pounds over the supplier give you a reason why its better ?

[dazmond]

all this chest thumping bout hot water and not one of you as said anything about the true figures and the re search    behind it  and how it works

What do you want to know ? To be fair there have been numerous threads about this subject just do a search Ime sure you will find most things have been covered many times

could you tell me how much faster the molecules are moving in your hot water set up now compared the your old cold water set up ?  as its the faster rate these molecules move that make it better due to molecules moving faster when heated ? this is a proven fact and why hot works better

what a stupid question susan?we re window cleaners not scientists!

at the end of the day hot water cleans easier,faster and better than cold water.thats all we need to know.

who really gives a s*** about molecules moving faster etc......it works!

why is it stupid ? surly spending 5k and not knowing why is works better is stupid ?  or did you just buy it because you red it on here ?

because id used hot water previously before susan.........(gas heaters)had some trouble and nearly set my new van on fire(gas leak) then tried to convince myself that cold water window cleaning was just as good......its not......

[G Griffin]

I've been looking at the Argentinian made ones- the Evv Heater.
They look good value and there's always 'one pair on' sale.

I was going  to order one but I had a bad experience with some corned beef tin keys that I imported.
So I chose Freedom. Running around trying everything new. But nothing impressed me at all. I never expected it to.

[Slacky]

all this chest thumping bout hot water and not one of you as said anything about the true figures and the re search    behind it  and how it works

What do you want to know ? To be fair there have been numerous threads about this subject just do a search Ime sure you will find most things have been covered many times

i agree with what your saying  but

could you tell me how much faster the molecules are moving in your hot water set up now compared the your old cold water set up ?  as its the faster rate these molecules move that make it better due to molecules moving faster when heated ? this is a proven fact and why hot works better hence we clean carpets useing 250 ° F most of the time not  crappy 40

47 mph an hour faster.

[The Jester of Wibbly]

Really? Some very daft comments on here. 

How many times do things need to be explained?

If you're happy with cold then stay cold, and focus on you're own business. 

Why does every hot water post turn into a debate???

Reminds me of the trad vs wfp debates back in the day.

[Susan Dean (1stclean)]

all this chest thumping bout hot water and not one of you as said anything about the true figures and the re search    behind it  and how it works

What do you want to know ? To be fair there have been numerous threads about this subject just do a search Ime sure you will find most things have been covered many times

could you tell me how much faster the molecules are moving in your hot water set up now compared the your old cold water set up ?  as its the faster rate these molecules move that make it better due to molecules moving faster when heated ? this is a proven fact and why hot works better

what a stupid question susan?we re window cleaners not scientists!

at the end of the day hot water cleans easier,faster and better than cold water.thats all we need to know.

who really gives a s*** about molecules moving faster etc......it works!

why is it stupid ? surly spending 5k and not knowing why is works better is stupid ?  or did you just buy it because you red it on here ?

because id used hot water previously before susan.........(gas heaters)had some trouble and nearly set my new van on fire(gas leak) then tried to convince myself that cold water window cleaning was just as good......its not......

the science behind it is that the molecules in the water move faster when heated giving the water faster movement when hitting the glass i.e. more subbing power hence the better clean

i guess there will be some point where coldwater  will be the same as hot (i.e. moving speed ) but this could mean running  400 psi pump on the windows which is unusable would be good to see a company like grippa to show us the stats on there research

my point is not to have  go at people with hot water more to the point of them that dont  theses been millions of pounds worth of research spent in the carpet cleaning world on why hot is best  yet the know it all window cleaners still say they know better

[dazmond]

all this chest thumping bout hot water and not one of you as said anything about the true figures and the re search    behind it  and how it works

What do you want to know ? To be fair there have been numerous threads about this subject just do a search Ime sure you will find most things have been covered many times

could you tell me how much faster the molecules are moving in your hot water set up now compared the your old cold water set up ?  as its the faster rate these molecules move that make it better due to molecules moving faster when heated ? this is a proven fact and why hot works better

what a stupid question susan?we re window cleaners not scientists!

at the end of the day hot water cleans easier,faster and better than cold water.thats all we need to know.

who really gives a s*** about molecules moving faster etc......it works!

why is it stupid ? surly spending 5k and not knowing why is works better is stupid ?  or did you just buy it because you red it on here ?

because id used hot water previously before susan.........(gas heaters)had some trouble and nearly set my new van on fire(gas leak) then tried to convince myself that cold water window cleaning was just as good......its not......

the science behind it is that the molecules in the water move faster when heated giving the water faster movement when hitting the glass i.e. more subbing power hence the better clean

i guess there will be some point where coldwater  will be the same as hot (i.e. moving speed ) but this could mean running  400 psi pump on the windows which is unusable would be good to see a company like grippa to show us the stats on there research

my point is not to have  go at people with hot water more to the point of them that dont  theses been millions of pounds worth of research spent in the carpet cleaning world on why hot is best  yet the know it all window cleaners still say they know better

errr.....you ve lost me there susan......

[the king]

i use gas set up, i was cold for a long time then went 2 years hot with my gas heater set up  a few times this year i went back to cold  just to see how i got on and it was a nite mare , bird cxxxp was taking to long to get off and fly cxxxxp was just not shifting  , so my view is hot is beta for me working in my area on the coast, if i was inland working on a 4 weekly cleaning then hot would just be a luxury , but on the coast working on a 7 weekly its a must have you save on water as your cleaning quicker  its that simple realy ,if any one once to trial hot just to see then a £200 gas set up is worth a punt if its then not for you its not a huge waste of money

[Dry Clean]

Really? Some very daft comments on here. 

How many times do things need to be explained?

If you're happy with cold then stay cold, and focus on you're own business. 

Why does every hot water post turn into a debate???

Reminds me of the trad vs wfp debates back in the day.

I remember them well, there's no way water on its own could possibly clean anything properly, lol.

[The Jester of Wibbly]

Really? Some very daft comments on here. 

How many times do things need to be explained?

If you're happy with cold then stay cold, and focus on you're own business. 

Why does every hot water post turn into a debate???

Reminds me of the trad vs wfp debates back in the day.

I remember them well, there's no way water on its own could possibly clean anything properly, lol.

 

[G Griffin]

all this chest thumping bout hot water and not one of you as said anything about the true figures and the re search    behind it  and how it works

What do you want to know ? To be fair there have been numerous threads about this subject just do a search Ime sure you will find most things have been covered many times

i agree with what your saying  but

could you tell me how much faster the molecules are moving in your hot water set up now compared the your old cold water set up ?  as its the faster rate these molecules move that make it better due to molecules moving faster when heated ? this is a proven fact and why hot works better hence we clean carpets useing 250 ° F most of the time not  crappy 40

That'd be steam though, wouldn't it?
That could be the next revolution in window cleaning. Better cleaning properties and lighter to carry around. 

[G Griffin]

nathan i used to hate having to get the ladders off to scrape an egged window.now all i have to do is give the window a good soak with hot water,clean another window,then come back and give it a good scrub and rinse and it comes off!magic!

Wet it, turn the brush to a slight angle, and use the edge to scrape off the bird poo.

Even Wor Lass, who is Welsh, can do it.

That'll be a tenner for the info.

If it's a Welsh one you're after, I recommend the Catherine's Heater. Jones do them.

[Flight 447]

feck sake were still chatting how good hot over cold..  spending over 5 grand if   the person has the money to spend  what odd how much he spends, its not your money. if your happy with cold then i wont tell you to change . if you hot then  work away...   its looks like  some on here  just like to rant. where do you find the time to rant on here in first place. there  more to life  than some guy spending his cash on hot system. next thing  will  be  .. your spend too  much  on a car . i got my car cheaper

[Slacky]

nathan i used to hate having to get the ladders off to scrape an egged window.now all i have to do is give the window a good soak with hot water,clean another window,then come back and give it a good scrub and rinse and it comes off!magic!

Wet it, turn the brush to a slight angle, and use the edge to scrape off the bird poo.

Even Wor Lass, who is Welsh, can do it.

That'll be a tenner for the info.

If it's a Welsh one you're after, I recommend the Catherine's Heater. Jones do them.

That's atrocious! Where do you get them from