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Marc Stock

Is Quarterly becoming the new Bi-monthly?
« on: February 25, 2018, 10:29:39 am »
Just had a new website enquiry today. So many people are opting now for quarterly window cleaning!

Its a bit of a two edge one really, because whilst quarterly window cleans command a higher price over bimonthly, it going to take a 3rd longer to fully book up the schedual.

Its interesting.

Arnold Palmer

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Re: Is Quarterly becoming the new Bi-monthly?
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2018, 10:35:45 am »
Quarterly is pretty much first clean every time.
#aliens

Marc Stock

Re: Is Quarterly becoming the new Bi-monthly?
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2018, 10:51:06 am »
Nope it isnt. I disagree.


Plankton

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Re: Is Quarterly becoming the new Bi-monthly?
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2018, 10:57:02 am »
Well wfp is branded as keeping windows cleaner longer! It would be a pita cleaning the square pane types on a 12 weekly, it would be a double clean and too much rinsing for me.  (Think you might call them Georgian windows?)

Arnold Palmer

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Re: Is Quarterly becoming the new Bi-monthly?
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2018, 11:02:11 am »
Nope it isnt. I disagree.

Your bank balance would rather you agreed.
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Arnold Palmer

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Re: Is Quarterly becoming the new Bi-monthly?
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2018, 11:08:54 am »
Well wfp is branded as keeping windows cleaner longer! It would be a pita cleaning the square pane types on a 12 weekly, it would be a double clean and too much rinsing for me.  (Think you might call them Georgian windows?)

It's not branded that way, it's literally the case.

4 weekly = windows are usually still pretty clean
8 weekly = some extra effort required
12 weekly = treat them like a first clean and charge accordingly.
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NWH

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Re: Is Quarterly becoming the new Bi-monthly?
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2018, 11:15:46 am »
Don’t worry Marc if it’s £20 eight times a year make it 40 four x a year you’ll end up with the same in your pocket.

Marc Stock

Re: Is Quarterly becoming the new Bi-monthly?
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2018, 11:36:53 am »
Im not worried. Lol. I just think its interesting how the market is moving.

Arnold Palmer

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Re: Is Quarterly becoming the new Bi-monthly?
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2018, 11:38:15 am »
Im not worried. Lol. I just think its interesting how the market is moving.

Up your price for quarterly and the market will move right back.
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Slacky

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Re: Is Quarterly becoming the new Bi-monthly?
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2018, 11:55:56 am »
Don’t worry Marc if it’s £20 eight times a year make it 40 four x a year you’ll end up with the same in your pocket.

But people wouldn't pay double to have their windows cleaned at half the frequency. They're not that stupid. They'd cotton on pretty quick if not straight away.

Arnold Palmer

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Re: Is Quarterly becoming the new Bi-monthly?
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2018, 12:07:49 pm »
Don’t worry Marc if it’s £20 eight times a year make it 40 four x a year you’ll end up with the same in your pocket.

But people wouldn't pay double to have their windows cleaned at half the frequency. They're not that stupid. They'd cotton on pretty quick if not straight away.

To me, that's the point. Make the option less attractive with pricing.
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Marc Stock

Re: Is Quarterly becoming the new Bi-monthly?
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2018, 12:09:03 pm »
I already do quarterly window cleans, every friday throughout the month,every month so.. it.doenst bother me at all. I charge around 20% more for them so.in the days i am doing them they become very very good earners.

P @ F

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Re: Is Quarterly becoming the new Bi-monthly?
« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2018, 12:25:09 pm »
I charge 25% more for bi monthly now , if i was to ever do 3 monthly then i would want 50% more at least , some i would want double due to surroundings , as soupy says "Its like a first clean every visit" , and that aint really my bag !
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

Marc Stock

Re: Is Quarterly becoming the new Bi-monthly?
« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2018, 12:36:19 pm »
Its really not like a 1st clean every time guys.

Perhaps im just used to them now...who knows lol.

Taking min price at £22 for monthly cleans. translates to £25 for bi monthly
and on to £30 for quarterly.

On average im charging around £48 for my quarterly cleans, bash through 10 or 11 of those on the day and your on track for a £500 day. Most i have on a single quartely day at the moment is 8 cleans. But thats increasing in popularity

NWH

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Re: Is Quarterly becoming the new Bi-monthly?
« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2018, 01:10:22 pm »
I say you are interrupting my schedule by doing this if you require it half the frequency the price will be x2 or very near to it,I’ve had it over the years they soon say ok keep it as it is then. I had this with shops if it’s not cash it will be X they soon stick to the cash price although most these days are going with online even on smaller amounts I’m starting to think they ain’t worth the bother like a lot of commercial work.

Marc Stock

Re: Is Quarterly becoming the new Bi-monthly?
« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2018, 01:15:01 pm »
I think there is a new gap in the market for shops.

You could sell them a service contract under dd.

robbo333

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Re: Is Quarterly becoming the new Bi-monthly?
« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2018, 02:06:05 pm »
I used to have a few 12 weekly cleans but I binned most of them off. I didn't price them enough so they become a problem, rather than a good earner. Also my schedule is 8 weekly, so trying to fit them in became a ball ache.
My fault; I was focusing on the problems rather than the opportunities.

Ironic too as I love doing first cleans and I like my windows how I like my women; 'the dirtier the better'! (I was thinking of putting that as a sticker on my van...probably best not).

So would this situation work...
Let's say my round is nearly full and it's all 8 weekly.
If I gave every customer the opportunity to go 12 weekly (at a higher price) and half took me up on it...
then i've upped the prices for half my round AND freed up some space to get more custies.
If I then gave every new custy the option for 12 weeks (at a higher price) and half again took me up on it then my round would be more based on 12 weekly (hopefully at a better hourly rate)...depending on how extra dirty the houses become.
So technically you could end up with a 12 weekly round at a better hourly rate?

So if the above is correct, my only concern would be...would you lose the 8 weekly bond, the 8 weekly interaction, that you have with the custy that helps build the relationship to stop them going elsewhere?

All interesting stuff.

PS I have snuck upstairs and the missus doesn't know. I am just in the process of taking the oven fan apart (knackered) and she thinks i'm ordering a new part. Don't tell her  ;D
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Splash & dash

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Re: Is Quarterly becoming the new Bi-monthly?
« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2018, 02:49:51 pm »
I think it’s up to us to promote the service we want we to do 4&8 weekly domestic and 6 weekly on commercial  Ime not intrested in doing 12 weekly unless it’s beneficial to me I won’t travel distance to do stuff that’s a different frequency just to suite the customerits 4 or 8 weekly take it or leave it if it’s a substantial stand alone job then maybe but I agree I would view it as a one off and price accordingly if we did 12 weekly cleans down hear on the coast they wouldn’t be able to see through them , I provide the service I want to provide if that doesn’t suite the customer then that’s fine there are more window cleaners out there that are welcome to do it : I think this might be a regional thing as I have educated my customers for 4 weekly as most asked for 2 weekly I told them monthly should be fine

Stoots

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Re: Is Quarterly becoming the new Bi-monthly?
« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2018, 03:07:34 pm »
I have 3 that are 12 weekly, around 50 that are 8 weekly and the rest 4 weekly.

I dont offer 12 weekly and it's very rare I have been asked.


Stoots

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Re: Is Quarterly becoming the new Bi-monthly?
« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2018, 03:10:29 pm »
I used to have a few 12 weekly cleans but I binned most of them off. I didn't price them enough so they become a problem, rather than a good earner. Also my schedule is 8 weekly, so trying to fit them in became a ball ache.
My fault; I was focusing on the problems rather than the opportunities.

Ironic too as I love doing first cleans and I like my windows how I like my women; 'the dirtier the better'! (I was thinking of putting that as a sticker on my van...probably best not).

So would this situation work...
Let's say my round is nearly full and it's all 8 weekly.
If I gave every customer the opportunity to go 12 weekly (at a higher price) and half took me up on it...
then i've upped the prices for half my round AND freed up some space to get more custies.
If I then gave every new custy the option for 12 weeks (at a higher price) and half again took me up on it then my round would be more based on 12 weekly (hopefully at a better hourly rate)...depending on how extra dirty the houses become.
So technically you could end up with a 12 weekly round at a better hourly rate?

So if the above is correct, my only concern would be...would you lose the 8 weekly bond, the 8 weekly interaction, that you have with the custy that helps build the relationship to stop them going elsewhere?

All interesting stuff.

PS I have snuck upstairs and the missus doesn't know. I am just in the process of taking the oven fan apart (knackered) and she thinks i'm ordering a new part. Don't tell her  ;D

8 weekly to 12 would be difficult. But 6 to 12 or 4 to 8 would work.

Thought about this myself however I prefer 4 weekly work, just can build faster.