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Spruce

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Re: Taking a stance
« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2018, 09:27:47 am »
I wouldn’t say a newbie dazmond but I know what you’re saying when it comes to reading posts on here about what people charge / earn. Happy with £25 an hour?  guess we’d all like to earn more - I work out my prices on what I feel I could live off, expenses blah blah, what others are charging. Does make me wonder how people get work in the area (if they actually do) by charging more, I also wouldn’t budge and charge a penny less. It works for me mate

Pricing and how you deal with customers very much depends on the area and affluence of that area.

In the North East we just don't get the prices the cleaners in the South do. If we do ask and get an above average price for a house, it won't be long before we get cancelled and there will be another cheaper cleaner doing the job. If you are able, then to reach a higher hourly rate you have to clean more windows and that maybe a tall ask when your round isn't compact.

Most of our work is in small local villages where everyone knows everybody. They all talk about how much their window cleaner charges, have you seen him lately etc. If we are rude or short with one of our customers, whether its justified or not, word quickly spreads and this can damage our reputation. When people talk the issue becomes exaggerated by the story teller to put themselves in a better light.

IMHO its only when you have been cleaning a long time and have developed your round that you can afford to choose higher paid work and only take higher paid work on.  If your work schedule is full then you have the luxury to do that. (By higher paid work I also don't mean work that pays more money per clean. It could also be work that is just easier and quicker to do due to the type of windows, garden design, garden clutter etc.)
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Re: Taking a stance
« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2018, 09:47:48 am »
dane are you a newbie? as your pricing too low IMO(or your a slow wfpoler)are you happy with £25 for an hours work? ::)roll

Are you happy living in a 1 bedroom council flat Daz?
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Dry Clean

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Re: Taking a stance
« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2018, 11:45:42 am »
I wouldn’t say a newbie dazmond but I know what you’re saying when it comes to reading posts on here about what people charge / earn. Happy with £25 an hour?  guess we’d all like to earn more - I work out my prices on what I feel I could live off, expenses blah blah, what others are charging. Does make me wonder how people get work in the area (if they actually do) by charging more, I also wouldn’t budge and charge a penny less. It works for me mate

Dane take what you read on here about pricing with a pinch of salt, one minute they're demanding £25 to £30 for a small semi
because they do such a fantastic job compared to the cheaper guy up the road, next minute they're knocking out 6 an hour
in storms, you couldn't make it up. lol.

Dane

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Re: Taking a stance
« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2018, 12:19:03 pm »
I like most others come on here to share my experiences, offer advice (if I can) and take on board what people say... whether or not I implement any ideas is totally circumstantial and based on what I learn and think..... everyone’s different, we’ve all got different ideas of a good life, different over heads, targets, dreams so I don’t think think anyone is right or wrong, each to their own... the reality is our own truth is out on our own rounds that we get up and work everybody day, whether it’s for peanuts or millions

Plankton

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Re: Taking a stance
« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2018, 12:19:53 pm »
I've been sitting all morning thinking and reading this whilst trying to make my mind up whether to go for something. It's around few hundred doors % in a scheme and won't say much more on here but this place doesn't help at times!

nathankaye

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Re: Taking a stance
« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2018, 12:23:21 pm »
Just cleaned this tiny property before I'm now sat having my lunch and reading on this forum.
I work in Doncaster which is full of x mining communities but for last couple of yrs I've implemented a min charge for all new work. There is only same amount of windows at the rear. Takes five min to set up (as need trolley)  and less than ten min to clean. (as I have to walk around backs to get to rear garden)



So daz's comment is reasonable, because if that property does indeed take an hour to clean from pulling up, then either the price needs to be adjusted or technique needs to change in order to speed up perhaps.
But we'll done for not backing down on price which can and does sadly happen to us all at times
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Shrek

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Re: Taking a stance
« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2018, 12:52:05 pm »
Delete the address Nathan  :o

nathankaye

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Re: Taking a stance
« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2018, 01:16:15 pm »
Delete the address Nathan  :o

Doh, I didn't see that.
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Dry Clean

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Re: Taking a stance
« Reply #28 on: February 21, 2018, 02:34:07 pm »
Delete the address Nathan  :o

Doh, I didn't see that.

You didn't see the 5 cleans for £25 in your post a few days ago either, lol.

Plankton

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Re: Taking a stance
« Reply #29 on: February 21, 2018, 02:45:28 pm »
Delete the address Nathan  :o

Doh, I didn't see that.
I thought that's a ridiculous name he Must have changed it!

Plankton

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Re: Taking a stance
« Reply #30 on: February 21, 2018, 02:50:57 pm »
I think £10 is a fair price for cleaning the glass, frames and sills but if you had say 20-40 in a row of a similar size at £5.00 and the trad guys aren't cleaning the frames or sills then they'll end up with the same amount per hour. Although they'd have twice the collecting to do and risk falling off the ladder!

nathankaye

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Re: Taking a stance
« Reply #31 on: February 21, 2018, 02:53:15 pm »
I think £10 is a fair price for cleaning the glass, frames and sills but if you had say 20-40 in a row of a similar size at £5.00 and the trad guys aren't cleaning the frames or sills then they'll end up with the same amount per hour. Although they'd have twice the collecting to do and risk falling off the ladder!

Once you've set up, wfp is much quicker than trad, even if they miss the frames n sills.
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Plankton

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Re: Taking a stance
« Reply #32 on: February 21, 2018, 03:02:25 pm »
I think £10 is a fair price for cleaning the glass, frames and sills but if you had say 20-40 in a row of a similar size at £5.00 and the trad guys aren't cleaning the frames or sills then they'll end up with the same amount per hour. Although they'd have twice the collecting to do and risk falling off the ladder!

Once you've set up, wfp is much quicker than trad, even if they miss the frames n sills.
What if you stick two guys on it with ladders, would it be worth it?

KS Cleaning

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Re: Taking a stance
« Reply #33 on: February 21, 2018, 03:34:00 pm »
Just cleaned this tiny property before I'm now sat having my lunch and reading on this forum.
I work in Doncaster which is full of x mining communities but for last couple of yrs I've implemented a min charge for all new work. There is only same amount of windows at the rear. Takes five min to set up (as need trolley)  and less than ten min to clean. (as I have to walk around backs to get to rear garden)



So daz's comment is reasonable, because if that property does indeed take an hour to clean from pulling up, then either the price needs to be adjusted or technique needs to change in order to speed up perhaps.
But we'll done for not backing down on price which can and does sadly happen to us all at times
Why does it take you 5 minutes to set up?

dazmond

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Re: Taking a stance
« Reply #34 on: February 21, 2018, 04:00:09 pm »
I wouldn’t say a newbie dazmond but I know what you’re saying when it comes to reading posts on here about what people charge / earn. Happy with £25 an hour?  guess we’d all like to earn more - I work out my prices on what I feel I could live off, expenses blah blah, what others are charging. Does make me wonder how people get work in the area (if they actually do) by charging more, I also wouldn’t budge and charge a penny less. It works for me mate

the £25 job in question could probably be cleaned in 30 mins(not an hour)which is more like it.(after the initial clean is done)

today i was cleaning 4 weekly/8 weekly estate work(NOT MY BEST WORK) with prices ranging from £8-£15(mainly small semis).i only worked 930am-2pm(30 mins for lunch)so 4 hours actually cleaning and still earned £170.i finished early because im not well at the moment(stinking cold!).the work is very compact though....

high flow/hot water/xtreme brush and i just flew through the jobs.splash and dash including frames,sills and doors... ;D
price higher/work harder!

dazmond

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Re: Taking a stance
« Reply #35 on: February 21, 2018, 04:02:17 pm »
dane are you a newbie? as your pricing too low IMO(or your a slow wfpoler)are you happy with £25 for an hours work? ::)roll

Are you happy living in a 1 bedroom council flat Daz?

yep very happy mate...rent is only £300 a month.happy days! :)
price higher/work harder!

Stoots

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Re: Taking a stance
« Reply #36 on: February 21, 2018, 04:10:52 pm »
My average seems to be £35 per hour  worked.

Some days a bit less and some a bit more.

lal

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Re: Taking a stance
« Reply #37 on: February 21, 2018, 04:12:59 pm »
I wouldn’t say a newbie dazmond but I know what you’re saying when it comes to reading posts on here about what people charge / earn. Happy with £25 an hour?  guess we’d all like to earn more - I work out my prices on what I feel I could live off, expenses blah blah, what others are charging. Does make me wonder how people get work in the area (if they actually do) by charging more, I also wouldn’t budge and charge a penny less. It works for me mate

the £25 job in question could probably be cleaned in 30 mins(not an hour)which is more like it.(after the initial clean is done)

today i was cleaning 4 weekly/8 weekly estate work(NOT MY BEST WORK) with prices ranging from £8-£15(mainly small semis).i only worked 930am-2pm(30 mins for lunch)so 4 hours actually cleaning and still earned £170.i finished early because im not well at the moment(stinking cold!).the work is very compact though....

high flow/hot water/xtreme brush and i just flew through the jobs.splash and dash including frames,sills and doors... ;D


Hi dazmond, plenty of Lemsip tonight, what number flow do you work with, when using Hot, do you use Hot all the time now.
Larry

Smudger

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Re: Taking a stance
« Reply #38 on: February 21, 2018, 04:31:22 pm »
what, where, when and how much per hour people perceive is the max that can get is really down the individual and of course there commitments and outgoings so im not really going to comment one way or the other on this thread

This is a long standing customer i take it and reliable payer ?

if so i would compromise this way -   i'm sorry i am unable to reduce the regular price of the windows due to the amount that now needs to be cleaned however as a gesture of good will for a long standing customer i will only charge 1/2 price for the sixth clean on this property

we do this for any new customer who pays  x2 on there first clean - it seems to stop fall outs

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

nathankaye

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Re: Taking a stance
« Reply #39 on: February 21, 2018, 04:44:16 pm »
Just cleaned this tiny property before I'm now sat having my lunch and reading on this forum.
I work in Doncaster which is full of x mining communities but for last couple of yrs I've implemented a min charge for all new work. There is only same amount of windows at the rear. Takes five min to set up (as need trolley)  and less than ten min to clean. (as I have to walk around backs to get to rear garden)



So daz's comment is reasonable, because if that property does indeed take an hour to clean from pulling up, then either the price needs to be adjusted or technique needs to change in order to speed up perhaps.
But we'll done for not backing down on price which can and does sadly happen to us all at times
Why does it take you 5 minutes to set up?
Might not quite be five minds, but I use my trolley on this house.  The trolley is periodically used. So I have to get it out, put the barrel on it and then fill it up before I can start the actual clean.  I use the trolley because I have to go around the next house and down a gangway to get to the rear
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