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Arnold Palmer

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End of tenancy
« on: February 17, 2018, 04:15:42 pm »
A lad at work is moving, he's been given a list of guidelines from the letting agent to ensure he gets his deposit back. Penalties include:

Windows need cleaning = £10 (PER WINDOW).

I'm going to phone them up on Monday, find out who their window cleaner is and make sure he's licensed.

Laugh of it is, the windows weren't clean when he moved in!
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Plankton

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Re: End of tenancy
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2018, 04:35:08 pm »
Unless it's a domestic cleaner they send out and they're cleaning the windows at the same time then they don't need a license. But £10.00 per window is just a joke.

*Hector*

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Re: End of tenancy
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2018, 04:39:36 pm »
It all depends on the move in inventory..

If the windows were marked as not clean on moving in, then the estate agent/LL cannot charge the tenant for leaving them in the same state.

However if nothing is mentioned about the windows and the inventory clerk marks them down as not clean, then it could prove costly.. The £10 is not what they will pay the window cleaner, but will include admin and organisation costs..  ;D ;D
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andyM

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Re: End of tenancy
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2018, 05:12:15 pm »
A lad at work is moving, he's been given a list of guidelines from the letting agent to ensure he gets his deposit back. Penalties include:

Windows need cleaning = £10 (PER WINDOW).

I'm going to phone them up on Monday, find out who their window cleaner is and make sure he's licensed.

Laugh of it is, the windows weren't clean when he moved in!

I'm assuming it's £10 for every window NOT cleaned will get knocked off the Tenants Deposit?
As your man is a window cleaner, I don't forsee a problem? 
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P @ F

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Re: End of tenancy
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2018, 07:42:48 pm »
What does this lad at work do for a job ?
Or am i missing the obvious answer here Soupy  ;D
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

Arnold Palmer

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Re: End of tenancy
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2018, 08:24:57 pm »
What does this lad at work do for a job ?
Or am i missing the obvious answer here Soupy  ;D

He's a mechanic.

He does know a window cleaner or two though.
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Arnold Palmer

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Re: End of tenancy
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2018, 08:26:37 pm »
Unless it's a domestic cleaner they send out and they're cleaning the windows at the same time then they don't need a license. But £10.00 per window is just a joke.

They effing well do need a license. Believe me, I've researched the issue extensively.
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P @ F

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Re: End of tenancy
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2018, 08:31:34 pm »
Stick it to em then Soupy  ;D ;D ;D
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

P @ F

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Re: End of tenancy
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2018, 08:33:58 pm »
Mind you it could well be £80 your way , payback for them connin bleddy mechanics  ;D
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

Plankton

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Re: End of tenancy
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2018, 09:43:59 pm »
Unless it's a domestic cleaner they send out and they're cleaning the windows at the same time then they don't need a license. But £10.00 per window is just a joke.

They effing well do need a license. Believe me, I've researched the issue extensively.
Your wrong!  ;D

Arnold Palmer

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Re: End of tenancy
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2018, 09:50:26 pm »
Unless it's a domestic cleaner they send out and they're cleaning the windows at the same time then they don't need a license. But £10.00 per window is just a joke.

They effing well do need a license. Believe me, I've researched the issue extensively.
Your wrong!  ;D

If anyone other than the homeowners or tenant is cleaning the windows and there is financial reward, they need a license. Otherwise the license is pointless.

If there is a loophole, explain it to me.
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Plankton

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Re: End of tenancy
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2018, 09:55:05 pm »
They say it's an extension of the house (from North or South Lanarkshire Council website) so if there cleaning the toilet etc then they can clean the windows without a licence. At the end of the day there's windys on council work without licenses so they should just scrap it, probably less than 10% of windys are licensed.

Arnold Palmer

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Re: End of tenancy
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2018, 09:56:48 pm »
They say it's an extension of the house (from North or South Lanarkshire Council website) so if there cleaning the toilet etc then they can clean the windows without a licence. At the end of the day there's windys on council work without licenses so they should just scrap it, probably less than 10% of windys are licensed.

I tried that argument, in front of the licensing board.

No dice.
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Arnold Palmer

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Re: End of tenancy
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2018, 09:57:37 pm »
The bye-law:



Seems pretty straightforward.
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Arnold Palmer

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Re: End of tenancy
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2018, 10:41:33 pm »
They say it's an extension of the house (from North or South Lanarkshire Council website) so if there cleaning the toilet etc then they can clean the windows without a licence. At the end of the day there's windys on council work without licenses so they should just scrap it, probably less than 10% of windys are licensed.

If your council is employing people to clean windows and they're not requiring them to be licenced, I'd tell them in no uncertain terms where they can poke their licence.
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AuRavelling79

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Re: End of tenancy
« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2018, 11:09:28 pm »
If the tenant doesn't arrange it himself then maybe the letting agent sub contracts it out to a licensed windy for however much and then charges £10 per window to the tenant?
It's a game of three halves!

Plankton

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Re: End of tenancy
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2018, 11:41:27 pm »
If the tenant doesn't arrange it himself then maybe the letting agent sub contracts it out to a licensed windy for however much and then charges £10 per window to the tenant?
No letting agent will even be aware that a licence is required, same goes for property factors or property management companies whichever they are known by up and down the country.  Or at least the factors don't bother.

G Griffin

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Re: End of tenancy
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2018, 11:54:17 pm »
Do they have any proper laws in that Scotland?
If I were you, I'd just write to Mel Gibson, Soupy.
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Plankton

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Re: End of tenancy
« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2018, 11:56:56 pm »
Soupy, your right that it's straight forward but if your cleaning the house then you don't require a licence. Same thing for someone who is cleaning the render and messes up the windows then it's alright for them to clean them.


*Hector*

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Re: End of tenancy
« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2018, 03:47:27 am »
If the tenant doesn't arrange it himself then maybe the letting agent sub contracts it out to a licensed windy for however much and then charges £10 per window to the tenant?

the letting agent just charge the tenant, and 99% of the time don't bother getting them done, as by law they don't have to.
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