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Splash & dash

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Re: Softwashing
« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2018, 02:36:01 pm »
Doesn't the hypo mix cause any problems if it hits window frames, etc?

Vin



No in fact it brings them up well ,you do have to be more careful with painted wood if it’s flaking as it will take it off

Plankton

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Re: Softwashing
« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2018, 02:41:15 pm »
If you leave the hypo on frames/soffits etc for too long it can leave marks.

Splash & dash

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Re: Softwashing
« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2018, 02:58:50 pm »
If you leave the hypo on frames/soffits etc for too long it can leave marks.



Never had a problem with it leaving any marks and we have done several hundred over the years

Slacky

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Re: Softwashing
« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2018, 07:19:53 pm »
If you leave the hypo on frames/soffits etc for too long it can leave marks.



Never had a problem with it leaving any marks and we have done several hundred over the years

What would you be cautious of applying Hypo to?

Plankton

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Re: Softwashing
« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2018, 07:46:27 pm »
If you leave the hypo on frames/soffits etc for too long it can leave marks.



Never had a problem with it leaving any marks and we have done several hundred over the years
Have you never found with older oxidised upvc that hypo can turn it pink or leave dirty yellow looking runs. I've seen small patches which is why I bring it up to any asking incase they leave it too long or go too strong.

Splash & dash

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Re: Softwashing
« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2018, 09:23:58 pm »
If you leave the hypo on frames/soffits etc for too long it can leave marks.



Never had a problem with it leaving any marks and we have done several hundred over the years
Have you never found with older oxidised upvc that hypo can turn it pink or leave dirty yellow looking runs. I've seen small patches which is why I bring it up to any asking incase they leave it too long or go too strong.




Hypo will have that effect on new UPVC if the mix is to strong we did a few and had that happen in the early days but within 24 hours it returned to white , we have experimented with different mixes over the years and now never have it happen , in fact hypo will dramatically improve the look of older plastic especially on downpipes where the plastic has been cut and you cannot remove the staining Evan with restoration products as the edges are rough but hypo will usually return it to an acceptable standard , there is no hard and fast rule with it I have been using it for around 10 years for this and am still learning and happy to learn from others experience but there is a lot of miths about what it will and won’t do and how to use it some seam to treat it almost like a black art

Splash & dash

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Re: Softwashing
« Reply #26 on: February 18, 2018, 09:33:53 pm »
If you leave the hypo on frames/soffits etc for too long it can leave marks.



Never had a problem with it leaving any marks and we have done several hundred over the years

What would you be cautious of applying Hypo to?



One of my customers is a chemist and I have had long discussions with him about this he said providing it is diluted correctly for the item it’s being used on it’s a good multi surface cleaner / steriliser , I have used it on aluminium cladding and it does cause corrosion on raw edges also it does damage the fittings on the hose lines rectus 21 fittings it turned them green and damages the ball bearings in the collar , as I said in another post Ime still learning and different products need to be treated with different strengths start off weak mix and increase in strength
This will probebly be very contraversial but we regularly use it on conservatory roofs with self cleaning glass with excellent results never had a single problem but others have done this with virosol and had major issues: we now regularly use it on conservatory cleans as it will kill green algy in places that you cannot get to with the brush or cloth and the plastic ribs on the roof always look far whiter afterwards 

Slacky

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Re: Softwashing
« Reply #27 on: February 18, 2018, 09:42:50 pm »
Okay. So when you use it on glass how much agitation is required or does it just blitz and dissolve algae in glass?

Also, is it okay to put it through the same pressure washer that I use for my flat surface cleaner. It’s a machine supplied by Spinaclean.

Splash & dash

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Re: Softwashing
« Reply #28 on: February 18, 2018, 10:57:29 pm »
Okay. So when you use it on glass how much agitation is required or does it just blitz and dissolve algae in glass?

Also, is it okay to put it through the same pressure washer that I use for my flat surface cleaner. It’s a machine supplied by Spinaclean.


I spray it on and clean the same as if it were virosol light scrub rinse job done , don’t put it through the pump on a pressure washer : we use a Gardiner back pack sprayer it will void the warranty but I have found after using hypo in it just flush it through and it’s fine I usualy get at least 2 years use out of them and one job pays for it so every job after that it’s pure profit

Slacky

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Re: Softwashing
« Reply #29 on: February 18, 2018, 11:16:07 pm »
Thanks.

Plankton

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Re: Softwashing
« Reply #30 on: February 19, 2018, 01:34:01 am »
I was told years ago not to put anything through pw pump as it reduces the life of the seals and then there's hypo which will just ruin all your fittings on the pw setup. You can use a load of other things to apply hypo with the backpack being the cheapest then it's an X-jet at around £180 and from there it just gets dearer.
I use hypo and I'm not scare mongering but some of these older upvc fascias etc you need to watch the strength and dwell time and obviously watching out for plants as well. Say goodbye to any daffodils!

Slacky

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Re: Softwashing
« Reply #31 on: February 19, 2018, 08:28:59 am »
Okay. So when you use it on glass how much agitation is required or does it just blitz and dissolve algae in glass?

Also, is it okay to put it through the same pressure washer that I use for my flat surface cleaner. It’s a machine supplied by Spinaclean.


I spray it on and clean the same as if it were virosol light scrub rinse job done , don’t put it through the pump on a pressure washer : we use a Gardiner back pack sprayer it will void the warranty but I have found after using hypo in it just flush it through and it’s fine I usualy get at least 2 years use out of them and one job pays for it so every job after that it’s pure profit

What nozzle/lance setup d'you have with the Gardiners backpack?

Smudger

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Re: Softwashing
« Reply #32 on: February 19, 2018, 06:20:03 pm »
x jets from the USA are cheaper than that, but you can use a chemical injector but not through the pump i fit therm on the end of the lance just behind the nozzle

i also have a great range of long shooter nozzles - low pressure nozzles i got from the USA - much more choice and 1/4 of UK prices

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Splash & dash

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Re: Softwashing
« Reply #33 on: February 19, 2018, 08:39:41 pm »
Okay. So when you use it on glass how much agitation is required or does it just blitz and dissolve algae in glass?

Also, is it okay to put it through the same pressure washer that I use for my flat surface cleaner. It’s a machine supplied by Spinaclean.


I spray it on and clean the same as if it were virosol light scrub rinse job done , don’t put it through the pump on a pressure washer : we use a Gardiner back pack sprayer it will void the warranty but I have found after using hypo in it just flush it through and it’s fine I usualy get at least 2 years use out of them and one job pays for it so every job after that it’s pure profit

What nozzle/lance setup d'you have with the Gardiners backpack?


I use a Gardiners clx 27 with a nozzle of Ben Marriot at Rutland pumps works a treat it’s a course spray so dramatically reduces overspray

Plankton

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Re: Softwashing
« Reply #34 on: February 19, 2018, 10:02:51 pm »
Think the dark art with this game is finding the right parts that work well but don't cost a small fortune. Think these have came down in price but they weren't put together very well and just spun round, hence the screw.

Slacky

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Re: Softwashing
« Reply #35 on: February 19, 2018, 10:24:45 pm »
Thanks Guys.

Splash & dash

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Re: Softwashing
« Reply #36 on: February 19, 2018, 10:26:32 pm »
Think the dark art with this game is finding the right parts that work well but don't cost a small fortune. Think these have came down in price but they weren't put together very well and just spun round, hence the screw.





That’s the Benz one isn’t it ? Ben at Rutland pumps does them cheaper and better quality give him a rind service is exelent and next day delivery rather than shipping from Ireland

Plankton

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Re: Softwashing
« Reply #37 on: February 19, 2018, 10:33:15 pm »
Zoom in on the packaging, think there about £20 cheaper now. They actually sent me a replacement on a next day and the same thing happened so just stuck a screw in them.
The adhesive was crap and wasn't setting so they just came apart.