[NWH]

It sounds more like he’s gone down the route of a lot of firms with a few vans out on the road it’s a case of taking almost anything on but on his frequency cleaning and payment terms,this is probably almost the only way it will allow you to get round and get enough revenue in to pay the wages. His terms in the real day to day WCleaning world will not work especially on high end domestics,I tell them what I want but a hell of a lot of them will tell me when I’m allowed to come and clean them,I would be a fool to argue with them as 1 job can be over a normal days take. Cutting my nose off to spite my face I don’t think I want to go do n that road,or never look a gift horse in the mouth as my old man used to say you have to give a little to take a little in this job.

[dazmond]

i dont do dog muck,

You don't?
You'll be telling us you don't cock your leg up and wee on lamposts next.

wtf has that got to do with the conversation?

theres always one bell on here who wants to derail the topic.

Adam g.griffin is a legend of CIU and I reckon he s lost his way...he should of been a comedian rather than a window cleaner...he s a top bloke.....and a funny one at that....chill....

[NWH]

I’ve watched all his videos and they are interesting and he’s right on a lot of subjects although there is no give and take in his business it’s my way or nothing,in reality no business runs efficiently with that attitude sometimes you just need to let people think they’ve got the upper hand even when you know they haven’t.

[Stoots]

i dont do dog muck,

You don't?
You'll be telling us you don't cock your leg up and wee on lamposts next.

wtf has that got to do with the conversation?

theres always one bell on here who wants to derail the topic.

Derail?  A bit dramatic that.
It's easy enough to get back on topic, isn't it?  Or has it gone forever? 

It's gone forever

[NWH]

I have a lot of very good customers that are also nice people if I adopted his methods I reckon I could kiss goodbye to most of em if I’m honest,I’d be coming across like a cross between Hitler and a pittbull.

[NWH]

He likes saying so on and so forth doesn’t he 😂 blimey and if they don’t like it there not the customer for you lol. He says in one video he likes to get the window completely spotless on the first visit although it is not going to guarantee you’ll keep the job some will still thanks but we will give you a call when we want you again. He refers to it as polishing a terd everytime although saying that I don’t mind polishing the odd terd of a house they are actually easier to clean and the monies still the same after I’ve cleaned that terd.

[Stoots]

I don't know NWH

You need rules in your business other wise you would be running round doing all sorta being pulled this way and that.

Dog muck- if they don't clean it up I don't clean. I don't think that's too much to ask.

Insides- I don't want to do em, I don't like moving all crap off sills, I find it slow and tedious.  I just don't wanna do it.

Access- don't climb anything and If theres no access you can't do it.

25ft pole - similar to what I have, only ever come across 3-4 jobs residential that I couldn't reach so no Interest is spending 500 plus quid when I can just get another custy.

I don't have any telling me what day I can come, but I don't do any high end (there's not much high end here)

I think it's up to each of us to decide how we run our business so there's no right or wrong, we can all do as we like.

[G Griffin]

i dont do dog muck,

You don't?
You'll be telling us you don't cock your leg up and wee on lamposts next.

wtf has that got to do with the conversation?

theres always one bell on here who wants to derail the topic.

Adam g.griffin is a legend of CIU and I reckon he s lost his way...he should of been a comedian rather than a window cleaner...he s a top bloke.....and a funny one at that....chill....

Thanks for your kind words, Daz.
And as you say, 'chill'. It doesn't have to be so serious all the time.
If someone is prepared to type 'I don't do dog muck' and not be prepared to have the mick taken then that's their problem.
Maybe I'm being childish but I also think Adam needs to lighten up.

[NWH]

I agree it’s up to you if I do insides the only thing I ask is for them to clear sills or the window area they are happy to do that,for insides I charge at least the same and a half but usually double the outside price. On a lot of work I go when the owners are away so it has to be arranged with the housekeepers etc it’s the only the way it can work for the big inside stuff,the majority of it like that that’s big and outside only I have gate entry numbers if they are out so that works well but they won’t just give out there gate entry codes willy nilly,i would be a fool to turn away insides and other work because of having to make arrangements to do them,sometimes insides can be aranged and done on an awful day when outsides are impossible really on that kind of work.

[Stoots]

i dont do dog muck,

You don't?
You'll be telling us you don't cock your leg up and wee on lamposts next.

wtf has that got to do with the conversation?

theres always one bell on here who wants to derail the topic.

Adam g.griffin is a legend of CIU and I reckon he s lost his way...he should of been a comedian rather than a window cleaner...he s a top bloke.....and a funny one at that....chill....

Thanks for your kind words, Daz.
And as you say, 'chill'. It doesn't have to be so serious all the time.
If someone is prepared to type 'I don't do dog muck' and not be prepared to have the mick taken then that's their problem.
Maybe I'm being childish but I also think Adam needs to lighten up.

Why though, you know what I meant,  I don't clean In gardens full  of dog muck....

Don't see why it needed to be taken the mick out of, whats wrong with that..what you said wasn't funny, just didn't get it. Just sounded like a wind up for no reason.

[Stoots]

I agree it’s up to you if I do insides the only thing I ask is for them to clear sills or the window area they are happy to do that,for insides I charge at least the same and a half but usually double the outside price. On a lot of work I go when the owners are away so it has to be arranged with the housekeepers etc it’s the only the way it can work for the big inside stuff,the majority of it like that that’s big and outside only I have gate entry numbers if they are out so that works well but they won’t just give out there gate entry codes willy nilly,i would be a fool to turn away insides and other work because of having to make arrangements to do them,sometimes insides can be aranged and done on an awful day when outsides are impossible really on that kind of work.

Fair enough, we all work differently.

Oddly I've only ever been asked if I can do insides on half a dozen occasions. I just don't get the asked, I never advertise it either. Think I've done it twice when I first started and just didn't like having to take my shoes off, be carefull with the water, watch I don't break anything and generally just feel a bit awkward...I like to just pull up, hose out, clean and go. I don't like faff and things that slow me down, I just like getting into the rythm of banging out house after house I find that the most profitable way of working.

[G Griffin]

You taking it as a wind up says a lot, my friend.
It's a forum. People are going to say stuff you might not like but you need to get used to it.
Anyway, let's forget this incident.
Till next time,......

[Stoots]

You taking it as a wind up says a lot, my friend.
It's a forum. People are going to say stuff you might not like but you need to get used to it.
Anyway, let's forget this incident.
Till next time,......

Ok thanks for the advice.

[jo5hm4n]

I think some of his videos are really good.  I've learned a few things in the fine details which he does that i adopted lately and it did help a little.  Some things he does may seem a bit over the top, but id rather that than somebody who has a sloppy approach and doesnt try.  Personally i need growth more than i can afford to be picky to only have gocardless customers on the books.  Aslong as i get paid in the end i also dont care how they pay.  Aslong as my hourly rate is good and i get paid, im not bothered always if access isnt perfect or a bit messy or slightly moany customers.  Just get on with it really.  If a job is a pain though, i'll just up the price or get rid if need be.

[zesty]

To be honest i think hes spot on.

Its exactly the way i run my round, i dont do terraced, i dont do dog muck, i dont do anything to do with ladders, i dont do insides.
i only have a 27ft pole and no interest in buying a bigger one, its not needed. i dont do trad work either.

I do what i want to do on my terms, it doesnt matter what your terms are just that you have some.

Adam that’s fair enough,

But my wages rocketed when I investing in a 47ft Xtreme pole. I then won 2 contracts for 2 large apartment blocks, it’s hard work, but well worth it!

Don’t limit yourself, if the opportunity comes, and you get a large/high regular job to clean, invest in the equipment, it’ll only benefit you and your wallet in the long term.

It took me a 7-8 years of window cleaning to get some of the commercial jobs I now have, but my word are they worth it. The higher the better as there’s less  competition (people don’t have the high reach poles to even bother quoting)

Oh and on green pro clean, he’s got some good advice, but as another guy said, he is arrogant, and generally when people have channels like his, it’s for there own self worth. It gives them something to do, and makes them feel good 

[nathankaye]

I think some of his videos are really good.  I've learned a few things in the fine details which he does that i adopted lately and it did help a little.  Some things he does may seem a bit over the top, but id rather that than somebody who has a sloppy approach and doesnt try.  Personally i need growth more than i can afford to be picky to only have gocardless customers on the books.  Aslong as i get paid in the end i also dont care how they pay.  Aslong as my hourly rate is good and i get paid, im not bothered always if access isnt perfect or a bit messy or slightly moany customers.  Just get on with it really.  If a job is a pain though, i'll just up the price or get rid if need be.

I don't know why people are put off and say its limiting to only offer GoCardless?   Any new work I get, have to sign up for direct debit payments.  So far I've not lost a single enquiry by saying they can only pay by direct debit.

[Cookie]

I think some of his videos are really good.  I've learned a few things in the fine details which he does that i adopted lately and it did help a little.  Some things he does may seem a bit over the top, but id rather that than somebody who has a sloppy approach and doesnt try.  Personally i need growth more than i can afford to be picky to only have gocardless customers on the books.  Aslong as i get paid in the end i also dont care how they pay.  Aslong as my hourly rate is good and i get paid, im not bothered always if access isnt perfect or a bit messy or slightly moany customers.  Just get on with it really.  If a job is a pain though, i'll just up the price or get rid if need be.

I don't know why people are put off and say its limiting to only offer GoCardless?   Any new work I get, have to sign up for direct debit payments.  So far I've not lost a single enquiry by saying they can only pay by direct debit.

I'm not sure the spiders will be too happy about this 

[nathankaye]

Haha, no 

I messaged back saying that she would be pleased to know that I use hot water as well. She was very pleased to hear that the spiders will be warm 

[CleanClear]

I make the guy 100% spot on. I didn't think he was arrogant or aggresive at all, just very focused and clear on what he wants, what he will do and what he expects.
 The things he won't be doing is posting stupid photographs of messy gardens that he doesn't like doing and complaining about customers who owe him for a few months clean.  I'd say he has it right.

[Dane]

I make the guy 100% spot on. I didn't think he was arrogant or aggresive at all, just very focused and clear on what he wants, what he will do and what he expects.
 The things he won't be doing is posting stupid photographs of messy gardens that he doesn't like doing and complaining about customers who owe him for a few months clean.  I'd say he has it right.

I totally agree