[Dane]

Builders cleans -

So been offered the contract for providing builders cleans for persimmon.

I have a scratch waiver I’m going to get them to sign - otherwise I’m not doing it, for reasons people have discussed.

Just wondered if anyone has worked for these or any other big firms and had any issues? Thanks in advance

[KS Cleaning]

Builders cleans -

So been offered the contract for providing builders cleans for persimmon.

I have a scratch waiver I’m going to get them to sign - otherwise I’m not doing it, for reasons people have discussed.

Just wondered if anyone has worked for these and had any issues? Thanks in advance

I would check what style of windows they are using on these new builds, a lot of the Persimmon homes I clean have lead effect front windows which would be a nightmare for a builders clean.

[Dane]

Thanks for your reply. I’ve been to have a look at the site and there wasn’t any lead windows.

Do you have any issues with them? payments? General p*ss taking?

[KS Cleaning]

I don't actually do any work for Persimmon, I do a lot of Persimmon houses on an estate and all the front openers have lead effect windows, they will be about 5 years old now though so they may well have changed the style of window they use since then. I think Deeege is the person to speak to about builders cleans.

[Dane]

No worries, thanks for taking the time out to reply mate 👍🏿

[Small but perfectley formed]

We have worked for them usual p taking with paying .

[Dane]

I get the feeling not everything is as rosey as it seems... I guess that’s enough to turn it down.

I thought the problems with the scratches were the main problems

[David Kent @ KentKleen]

Be prepared to drop any other planned jobs at literally 5 mins notice, just to clean maybe one property for them, 'because they need it doing', ruining a full day of other work. This is purely from my experience, but seems common place.   

[Dane]

Another impression I got... March apparently is a crazy month for them that they want me to start in, they showed me a plan of the cleans in and kept reiterating the amount of work there is.

Thanks for your replies guys, anymore that come are appreciated

[redstarwindowcleaners]

June and xmas are their year ends  its mad  each site will be looking at around 30 / 50  completions within that period  dependent on the number of units on the site you'll be carrying  out builders re cleans and numerous sparkles  for both production and sales over about a four week period together with windows
They will not give you any scratch waver  for the glass
Are you detaping  or is the mastic co
Don't worry to much re glass scratch wavers
The renders and brickies will generally scratch them for you before your works kick in the site team usually pick this up and distribute charges / blame accordinly
Just record  any damage  at each clean stage and make a note of any scratches broken glass damage to frames etc  on your sign off sheet and bring to the attention of the asm or sm
With persimmons or Charles church a site instruction for extra works aint worth poop  its purely a instruction to proceed not guaranteed payment
Payment needs to be cleared by the commercial team
At the pre start get the surveyor to set out the variation procedure re extra cleans etc
Remember year ends are a rush with multiple trades working each plot generally thro the night etc so your production can be slowed
I've never had any complaints from contractors working for both persimmons and cc regards to payments they are no different to any other volume house basher
They work on card payment system which works well
Generally they  expect contracors to bend over for them  but once you  peform and do a good job repeat work is  the norm they do look after their preferred contractors / thoes that  perform and help

Just be geared up for it
You fail your will take a pineapple up the arse
Cmls are  everything with them as this is what gives the top boys their bonuses

[Simon Trapani]

...Or maybe just leave it...

[P @ F]

I like money , but this is not a way to get it easy !
I did a lot of this for Persimmon and Redrow back in the day and they raped my boss for every penny they could in connection with scratched glass .

[Dane]

Thanks everyone, always good to hear the different views of people.... I’ve got to say though that out of all I’ve spoken to, the negatives have outweighed the positives by a considerable amount; I guess the truth has to lie somewhere and it sounds like it’s in a position I don’t need want to be in and others have wished they hadn’t got in.

Thanks again

[zesty]

I clean the windows of the owner of a well known company similar in size to persimmon, you’d think I’d do the builder cleans as well.

But I point blank refuse. I’m happy to clean there house and let other companies do there builders cleans, I think it’s far more hassle than it’s worth! My advice stay away!

[Dane]

Thanks zesty, I think This it’s been a lesson of “learning went to duck” and that not every opportunity is a good one..

Think a polite email thanking them for the opportunity to quote and the experience of learning how these things work will be sent today.

Thanks everyone 👍🏿

[Slacky]

Good decision.

[Dane]

Good decision.

Thanks mate, email was sent.... weight off my mind

[jk999]

I haven't done work for that company but in 30 years of cleaning I have done for other building companies but it was way before all this stupid health and safety stuff .in my oppinion it's not something I would take on now because even when I did them I could do more regular customers houses to a builders clean

[redstarwindowcleaners]

I've been  on a h/s course today with another well known builder
Ban the broom is on its way  !
A generator set up with extraction Hoover  complete with a shovel type contraction  all stored in a nice theft proof  tool box which is moved around from plot to plot on the forks as it to heavy to lift
No more labourers sweeping up

[deeege]

Redstar pretty much nailed it earlier on in the thread. We do plenty of New Build cleans also, good money but it’s got to be earned. Havnt don’t anything for Persimmon but a friend is a site agent for them and says they are not the best of company’s.

Does make me laugh when all the other windies on here say avoid at all costs, Windows will be full of silicone etc. I’ve never had to remove silicone from glass one single time.

Like i say it’s not for everyone but we do £7k - £10k of this work per month and generally very happy with it.