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The Jester of Wibbly

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Van tyres
« on: February 13, 2018, 09:52:48 am »
When replacing your tyres on the van what range do you go for.

I would avoid budget tyres but torn between mid range and branded.

What do you chaps use ?
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DaveG

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Re: Van tyres
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2018, 10:30:08 am »
Mid range for me. I don't do many miles and they'll last for years.
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Perfect Windows

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Re: Van tyres
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2018, 10:44:13 am »
I use top notch brands, largely because their wet stopping distance is better.  Avoiding a single crunch will pay the difference in price ten times over.

Slightly off topic, I also use winter tyres. They are astoundingly good when it's cold and even more impressive when it's cold and wet.  My daughter's learning to drive so I took her out in the rain the other day in the car (also winter tyres). We went onto an industrial estate and I was trying to show her how ABS feels when it starts working so she wouldn't panic.  I couldn't get the ABS to kick in, they gripped so well.

Vin

andyM

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Re: Van tyres
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2018, 10:50:39 am »
I've used Michelin for years now and I find they strike a good balance between price and longevity (cheaper tyres don't last as long).
Try looking on Black circles website and you can usually save a few quid.
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Re: Van tyres
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2018, 10:59:31 am »
For the van I use budget XL (extra load) - they are reinforced and always found them very good, never had an issue. My work is mostly country lanes and B roads though, no motorways.

For the car I use the OE tyres as it's 4x4 and they do 30k a pair.
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bobplum

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Re: Van tyres
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2018, 11:53:20 am »
I've used Michelin for years now and I find they strike a good balance between price and longevity (cheaper tyres don't last as long).
Try looking on Black circles website and you can usually save a few quid.

michelin for me too

Smudger

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Re: Van tyres
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2018, 11:54:11 am »
same as Peavey -  budget to mid range tyres depending what deal can be struck - just ensure they are VAN tyres with the correct load/rating

a van i brought had car tyres on it which could have lead to a blow out as they are not designed for the weight

Darran
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The Jester of Wibbly

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Re: Van tyres
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2018, 12:16:56 pm »
same as Peavey -  budget to mid range tyres depending what deal can be struck - just ensure they are VAN tyres with the correct load/rating

a van i brought had car tyres on it which could have lead to a blow out as they are not designed for the weight

Darran


Yes. I would make sure they have a load rating of 109.
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robbo333

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Re: Van tyres
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2018, 02:04:26 pm »
Top of the range for me. So I can nip in and out of DaveG's patch really quick.  ;D
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Spruce

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Re: Van tyres
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2018, 02:05:04 pm »
same as Peavey -  budget to mid range tyres depending what deal can be struck - just ensure they are VAN tyres with the correct load/rating

a van i brought had car tyres on it which could have lead to a blow out as they are not designed for the weight

Darran

The powers that be really need to do something about this.

If it's a van then it should have the correct load carrying tyres. If its the people carrier then it can have car tyres.

I think the only check is at MOT and that's down to the testers observation. Just because a van goes into test empty doesn't mean it doesn't get called upon the carry a full load after the test has been done.

The other issue is alloy wheels. There are a number (including my son's Berlingo van) that are running around with Saxo VTR alloys. They may look nice but I fear that they just aren't designed to take the weight of a fully laden van. They weren't designed for that application. At least he removed the car tyres and fitted the correct van tyres, but as the tyre fitters didn't query the alloys, even with the tank in the back, I'm told I don't know what I'm talking about.
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johnny bravo

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Re: Van tyres
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2018, 02:15:58 pm »
lots of van tyres seem to have a load weight also for that tyre.   some tyres for a van seem to have different load  weights.
my citroen dispatch tyres are around £40+ a tyre.        lots of different tyre prices out there.  as long as its new tyre, good weight limit.

KS Cleaning

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Re: Van tyres
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2018, 03:54:02 pm »
I usually replace like for like, front tyres obviously wear quicker and I like having the same brand of tyre all round. Transit Custom came with Bridgestone Duravis tyres, just recently replaced the two front ones at 16 000 miles which I think is a decent enough return. I buy my tyres online and get them delivered to a fitting centre.

The Jester of Wibbly

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Re: Van tyres
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2018, 03:55:10 pm »
I use top notch brands, largely because their wet stopping distance is better.  Avoiding a single crunch will pay the difference in price ten times over.

Slightly off topic, I also use winter tyres. They are astoundingly good when it's cold and even more impressive when it's cold and wet.  My daughter's learning to drive so I took her out in the rain the other day in the car (also winter tyres). We went onto an industrial estate and I was trying to show her how ABS feels when it starts working so she wouldn't panic.  I couldn't get the ABS to kick in, they gripped so well.

Vin

And how many window cleaners do you know who works in the cold or wet conditions these days?  Hehehe  ;D
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Splash & dash

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Re: Van tyres
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2018, 06:28:56 pm »
We use best tyres we can get I feel it’s false economy to use cheap tyres as that’s what keeps you on the road we use mud and snow tread pattern this kept us working 3 days last week that we wouldn’t have been able to have done without them due to snow and ice , no point in writing vans off for the sake of a couple of hundred quid more on tyres if you don’t work don’t earn the extra for tyres is well worth it I feel

dazmond

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Re: Van tyres
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2018, 06:50:04 pm »
same as Peavey -  budget to mid range tyres depending what deal can be struck - just ensure they are VAN tyres with the correct load/rating

a van i brought had car tyres on it which could have lead to a blow out as they are not designed for the weight

Darran

The powers that be really need to do something about this.

If it's a van then it should have the correct load carrying tyres. If its the people carrier then it can have car tyres.

I think the only check is at MOT and that's down to the testers observation. Just because a van goes into test empty doesn't mean it doesn't get called upon the carry a full load after the test has been done.

The other issue is alloy wheels. There are a number (including my son's van) that are running around with Saxo VTR alloys. They may look nice but I fear that they just aren't designed to take the weight of a fully laden van. They weren't designed for that application. At least he removed the car tyres and fitted the correct van tyres, but as the tyre fitters didn't query the alloys, even with the tank in the back, I'm told I don't know what I'm talking about.

alloy wheels came as standard (straight from the factory)on my van spruce so they must be able to handle the weight.....
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The Jester of Wibbly

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Re: Van tyres
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2018, 06:54:16 pm »
Same. Alloys were standard on my van too at new.
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KS Cleaning

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Re: Van tyres
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2018, 08:15:58 pm »
There isn't a problem if your van comes with alloys as standard. What Spruce is pointing out is there are some vans running around with alloys that have come off cars and they may not be suitable for a van.

Spruce

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Re: Van tyres
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2018, 08:37:39 pm »
There isn't a problem if your van comes with alloys as standard. What Spruce is pointing out is there are some vans running around with alloys that have come off cars and they may not be suitable for a van.

Exactly.
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markymark

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Re: Van tyres
« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2018, 10:33:53 pm »
same as Peavey -  budget to mid range tyres depending what deal can be struck - just ensure they are VAN tyres with the correct load/rating

a van i brought had car tyres on it which could have lead to a blow out as they are not designed for the weight

Darran

The powers that be really need to do something about this.

If it's a van then it should have the correct load carrying tyres. If its the people carrier then it can have car tyres.

I think the only check is at MOT and that's down to the testers observation. Just because a van goes into test empty doesn't mean it doesn't get called upon the carry a full load after the test has been done.

The other issue is alloy wheels. There are a number (including my son's van) that are running around with Saxo VTR alloys. They may look nice but I fear that they just aren't designed to take the weight of a fully laden van. They weren't designed for that application. At least he removed the car tyres and fitted the correct van tyres, but as the tyre fitters didn't query the alloys, even with the tank in the back, I'm told I don't know what I'm talking about.


What he said. My better half worked in Insurance and has seen claims go unpaid as the vehicle owner put the 'incorrect' alloys on a vehicle. Sure they look nice but are the wheels rated for a van carrying 500+kg tank and gear? Are the tyres the correct tyres for carrying such a load? Boring, fun-sponge stuff but not so good if you get rear-ended by Granny Jones and then cop for it when your insurer washes their hands of your claim. Even worse is if the tyres fail under load and cause an accident.

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Spruce

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Re: Van tyres
« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2018, 05:24:51 pm »
same as Peavey -  budget to mid range tyres depending what deal can be struck - just ensure they are VAN tyres with the correct load/rating

a van i brought had car tyres on it which could have lead to a blow out as they are not designed for the weight

Darran

The powers that be really need to do something about this.

If it's a van then it should have the correct load carrying tyres. If its the people carrier then it can have car tyres.

I think the only check is at MOT and that's down to the testers observation. Just because a van goes into test empty doesn't mean it doesn't get called upon the carry a full load after the test has been done.

The other issue is alloy wheels. There are a number (including my son's van) that are running around with Saxo VTR alloys. They may look nice but I fear that they just aren't designed to take the weight of a fully laden van. They weren't designed for that application. At least he removed the car tyres and fitted the correct van tyres, but as the tyre fitters didn't query the alloys, even with the tank in the back, I'm told I don't know what I'm talking about.


What he said. My better half worked in Insurance and has seen claims go unpaid as the vehicle owner put the 'incorrect' alloys on a vehicle. Sure they look nice but are the wheels rated for a van carrying 500+kg tank and gear? Are the tyres the correct tyres for carrying such a load? Boring, fun-sponge stuff but not so good if you get rear-ended by Granny Jones and then cop for it when your insurer washes their hands of your claim. Even worse is if the tyres fail under load and cause an accident.

Gawd,  being a grown up is dull.

You can't go wrong if you choose the identical alloy that the factory fitted to the same van. But after market alloys is a can of worms.
Even Citroen had a recall about 10 years ago on alloys fitted to some C5 Exclusive cars that had started to develop hairline fractures.

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