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capn sparkle

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Help - That's been given to others
« on: January 23, 2018, 08:59:58 pm »
I've just spent 10 minutes of my valuable time reading back posts - didn't know you could - the one thing that struck me is how much time and effort posters are willing to give up.

For instance,  a newbie called Dan Marsh (sorry mate not stalking just happened to be your back posts I read) started in this game about four months ago after researching on here plus asking questions. Now he's got the beginnings of a viable business with his partner.  Hats off to you for helping out.
Nathan
Robbo33
P1W1
Simon r
Ash Bash
Don Kee
Sorry can't remember any more

When I started out in 2010 it was the likes of Spruce and Vin @ Perfect windows who availed me with some sound advice and of course Dazmond who suggested Gardiner poles (I'd have still been using an18ft Streamline if it wasn't for him. God forbid).

My point is - almost everyone on here deserves a 'pat on the back' for their insight and input but I have one question for you all?

Does anyone on here still use 'VISION'?? Sean K or Dry clean

*Sighs! Sits back on the office chair, opens the digestives and prepares for the vitriol*

Spruce

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Re: Help - That's been given to others
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2018, 09:26:20 pm »
I've just spent 10 minutes of my valuable time reading back posts - didn't know you could - the one thing that struck me is how much time and effort posters are willing to give up.

For instance,  a newbie called Dan Marsh (sorry mate not stalking just happened to be your back posts I read) started in this game about four months ago after researching on here plus asking questions. Now he's got the beginnings of a viable business with his partner.  Hats off to you for helping out.
Nathan
Robbo33
P1W1
Simon r
Ash Bash
Don Kee
Sorry can't remember any more

When I started out in 2010 it was the likes of Spruce and Vin @ Perfect windows who availed me with some sound advice and of course Dazmond who suggested Gardiner poles (I'd have still been using an18ft Streamline if it wasn't for him. God forbid).

My point is - almost everyone on here deserves a 'pat on the back' for their insight and input but I have one question for you all?

Does anyone on here still use 'VISION'?? Sean K or Dry clean

*Sighs! Sits back on the office chair, opens the digestives and prepares for the vitriol*

Vin was the one to keep me motivated through the initial stages of the credit crunch 10 years ago. I will always be grateful to him for that. Whilst some of us; me especially, were panicking about what could happen to our non essential business services, he was the one to keep encouraging us to just keep doing what we were doing and ignore what was happening around us. ( I was stressed as we had just brought my son into the business having resigned from his full time job the previous month, fitted a van out for him and was working hard to fill my schedule as he was given most of the work I did.)

Vin wrote that we didn't cause the problem and we couldn't change it, only just work with what we had. This was opposite to the doom and gloom we were reading in the newspapers and on social media, and to a greater degree, influenced by.

He was right. In the end, we lost 3 customers, 1 later came back to us, 1 we were happy to loose and the last one was never heard off or seen again in the area. The estimate was that our area lost around 4500 jobs, directly and indirectly with the closing of British Steel on Teesside.

So again from me; thank you Vin.
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

Stoots

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Re: Help - That's been given to others
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2018, 09:39:13 pm »
I've just spent 10 minutes of my valuable time reading back posts - didn't know you could - the one thing that struck me is how much time and effort posters are willing to give up.

For instance,  a newbie called Dan Marsh (sorry mate not stalking just happened to be your back posts I read) started in this game about four months ago after researching on here plus asking questions. Now he's got the beginnings of a viable business with his partner.  Hats off to you for helping out.
Nathan
Robbo33
P1W1
Simon r
Ash Bash
Don Kee
Sorry can't remember any more

When I started out in 2010 it was the likes of Spruce and Vin @ Perfect windows who availed me with some sound advice and of course Dazmond who suggested Gardiner poles (I'd have still been using an18ft Streamline if it wasn't for him. God forbid).

My point is - almost everyone on here deserves a 'pat on the back' for their insight and input but I have one question for you all?

Does anyone on here still use 'VISION'?? Sean K or Dry clean

*Sighs! Sits back on the office chair, opens the digestives and prepares for the vitriol*

Vin was the one to keep me motivated through the initial stages of the credit crunch 10 years ago. I will always be grateful to him for that. Whilst some of us; me especially, were panicking about what could happen to our non essential business services, he was the one to keep encouraging us to just keep doing what we were doing and ignore what was happening around us. ( I was stressed as we had just brought my son into the business having resigned from his full time job the previous month, fitted a van out for him and was working hard to fill my schedule as he was given most of the work I did.)

Vin wrote that we didn't cause the problem and we couldn't change it, only just work with what we had. This was opposite to the doom and gloom we were reading in the newspapers and on social media, and to a greater degree, influenced by.

He was right. In the end, we lost 3 customers, 1 later came back to us, 1 we were happy to loose and the last one was never heard off or seen again in the area. The estimate was that our area lost around 4500 jobs, directly and indirectly with the closing of British Steel on Teesside.

So again from me; thank you Vin.


I think most would agree, if anyone deserves praise it is you spruce

Whilst most of us have our moments of helpfulness you always go the extra mile in your responses and are the go to man on this forum and the other one.

Hats off to you sir. I always enjoy reading your posts as usually learn something.

Slacky

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Re: Help - That's been given to others
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2018, 09:51:48 pm »
I like to give myself a pat on the back every now and again. I think I've done wonders since listening to my own advice.

paul alan

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Re: Help - That's been given to others
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2018, 09:57:12 pm »
I've just spent 10 minutes of my valuable time reading back posts - didn't know you could - the one thing that struck me is how much time and effort posters are willing to give up.

For instance,  a newbie called Dan Marsh (sorry mate not stalking just happened to be your back posts I read) started in this game about four months ago after researching on here plus asking questions. Now he's got the beginnings of a viable business with his partner.  Hats off to you for helping out.
Nathan
Robbo33
P1W1
Simon r
Ash Bash
Don Kee
Sorry can't remember any more

When I started out in 2010 it was the likes of Spruce and Vin @ Perfect windows who availed me with some sound advice and of course Dazmond who suggested Gardiner poles (I'd have still been using an18ft Streamline if it wasn't for him. God forbid).

My point is - almost everyone on here deserves a 'pat on the back' for their insight and input but I have one question for you all?

Does anyone on here still use 'VISION'?? Sean K or Dry clean

*Sighs! Sits back on the office chair, opens the digestives and prepares for the vitriol*

Vin was the one to keep me motivated through the initial stages of the credit crunch 10 years ago. I will always be grateful to him for that. Whilst some of us; me especially, were panicking about what could happen to our non essential business services, he was the one to keep encouraging us to just keep doing what we were doing and ignore what was happening around us. ( I was stressed as we had just brought my son into the business having resigned from his full time job the previous month, fitted a van out for him and was working hard to fill my schedule as he was given most of the work I did.)

Vin wrote that we didn't cause the problem and we couldn't change it, only just work with what we had. This was opposite to the doom and gloom we were reading in the newspapers and on social media, and to a greater degree, influenced by.

He was right. In the end, we lost 3 customers, 1 later came back to us, 1 we were happy to loose and the last one was never heard off or seen again in the area. The estimate was that our area lost around 4500 jobs, directly and indirectly with the closing of British Steel on Teesside.

So again from me; thank you Vin.


I think most would agree, if anyone deserves praise it is you spruce

Whilst most of us have our moments of helpfulness you always go the extra mile in your responses and are the go to man on this forum and the other one.

Hats off to you sir. I always enjoy reading your posts as usually learn something.

I agree mate, we must all humbly bow to his wisdom and willingness to share it.

He also not the only one on here that is a massive help and positive influence, this forum has been huge in my development as a window cleaner.

I started asking questions on here when i had a bucket and ladder on my shoulder, didn't even have a car.

How things have changed, a big thanks to all on cleanitup!

Slacky

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Re: Help - That's been given to others
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2018, 10:14:56 pm »
Hands up all those who remember SlumpBusters words of encouragement.

P @ F

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Re: Help - That's been given to others
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2018, 11:21:22 pm »
To be honest , the last 13 years on here are a blurr  ;D
Its had its ups and downs .
And i have only been told off once by they above , (it was funny though)  ;D ;D ;D

But there are i would say , far more helpfulls than not helpfulls .
We all get bad days , but some more than others eh 
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

Marc Stock

Re: Help - That's been given to others
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2018, 11:43:56 pm »
For me it was Ian Lancaster; back in the day when he was more active. Very helpful fella.

Also Andy Cheeny from Smart Cleaning, he was very helpful as was Steve Lowe 

and most recently since my "push to 80k" thread i have had a couple of direct contacts offering help and advice.

Unfortunately my bout of depression over the last 7 years had affected my business performance; and clean ing pros got shut down too. But now i am recovered; off the meds now since April and seem to be making good progress.

So a thank you (even Dry Clean) for all your input on this forum.

Dan marsh

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Re: Help - That's been given to others
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2018, 11:58:58 pm »
I have to take my hat off to 99% of you as you've been a massive help to me and really helped me to get my new buisnes off the ground . Ps u missed out Paul Allen an a few others an also sorry robbo it's 333 not 33 as I put in my last post lol . Yes there has been the small % that would rather pick on my dyslexia but I'm used to that but one off the great things for me is that most off u haven't witch I really appreciate. Thank god for predictive text lol . I'm just at the start off my new venture an even now in my 3rd month I'm texting robbo 333 for help an advice on cleaning the inside off a Connie an yet even tho I'm In the same area ie (compation) he still helps me out......... I must admit my outlook on bloody life has even changed after meeting him wot a bloody nice guy. 

P @ F

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Re: Help - That's been given to others
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2018, 12:29:13 am »
Whatever you do , dont go out with him for a drink , hes one of them  :-* :-* :-*

 ;D ;D ;D ;D
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

Slacky

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Re: Help - That's been given to others
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2018, 07:35:40 am »
Joking aside, the whole forum for me has been godsend.

There has been no one individual, Ive taken the bits Ive needed and implemented them in my work life. If it wasn't for CIU I don't know where my business would be.

The following are elements of my business that have benefited my business from being a member on CIU:

Having a number of websites out there attracting work, particularly commercial work in London.

Becoming H&S aware. I remember when we used to laugh at Dave Morris about H & S procedures, now they're standard for most of us.

Going WFP.

Upgrading my vehicle and system from a bulk standard van for trad to a multi-use vehicle with electric reels and a correctly fitted hot system.

Upgrading to a gutter-vac system.

Employing.

Becoming familiar with GoCardless.

Becoming familiar with Gardiners products.

Getting I.P.A.F. qualified.

Getting C.H.A.S. qualified.


chopsie

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Re: Help - That's been given to others
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2018, 07:44:22 am »
For me there were many good helpful posts, but the main one was Matt the DIY guy. His advice got me set up with all the kit on my van and installed by myself (I hate diy! But needs must) and it’s all still going strong over 7 years later.
chopsie

jonboywalton75

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Re: Help - That's been given to others
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2018, 08:58:42 am »
Hands up all those who remember SlumpBusters words of encouragement.

I do

jonboywalton75

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Re: Help - That's been given to others
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2018, 09:01:55 am »
For me there were many good helpful posts, but the main one was Matt the DIY guy. His advice got me set up with all the kit on my van and installed by myself (I hate diy! But needs must) and it’s all still going strong over 7 years later.

Wonder who Matt is in real life???
He changes into his work gear in a telephone box😂

jonboywalton75

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Re: Help - That's been given to others
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2018, 09:05:03 am »
For me there were many good helpful posts, but the main one was Matt the DIY guy. His advice got me set up with all the kit on my van and installed by myself (I hate diy! But needs must) and it’s all still going strong over 7 years later.

His diy site helped me enormously

nathankaye

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Re: Help - That's been given to others
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2018, 09:16:57 am »
What a great thread!
Yep, myself included, i have finely tuned my business from advice from this forum and no doubt will continue to do so.

The reason I like this thread is because theres a whole lotof guys n girls who read these threads but dont contribute to the discussions.  How much more so can we all perhaps learn a new trick or adapt a different method to what we are used to, if these ones also contribute.
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Spruce

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Re: Help - That's been given to others
« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2018, 09:42:56 am »
I've just spent 10 minutes of my valuable time reading back posts - didn't know you could - the one thing that struck me is how much time and effort posters are willing to give up.

For instance,  a newbie called Dan Marsh (sorry mate not stalking just happened to be your back posts I read) started in this game about four months ago after researching on here plus asking questions. Now he's got the beginnings of a viable business with his partner.  Hats off to you for helping out.
Nathan
Robbo33
P1W1
Simon r
Ash Bash
Don Kee
Sorry can't remember any more

When I started out in 2010 it was the likes of Spruce and Vin @ Perfect windows who availed me with some sound advice and of course Dazmond who suggested Gardiner poles (I'd have still been using an18ft Streamline if it wasn't for him. God forbid).

My point is - almost everyone on here deserves a 'pat on the back' for their insight and input but I have one question for you all?

Does anyone on here still use 'VISION'?? Sean K or Dry clean

*Sighs! Sits back on the office chair, opens the digestives and prepares for the vitriol*

Vin was the one to keep me motivated through the initial stages of the credit crunch 10 years ago. I will always be grateful to him for that. Whilst some of us; me especially, were panicking about what could happen to our non essential business services, he was the one to keep encouraging us to just keep doing what we were doing and ignore what was happening around us. ( I was stressed as we had just brought my son into the business having resigned from his full time job the previous month, fitted a van out for him and was working hard to fill my schedule as he was given most of the work I did.)

Vin wrote that we didn't cause the problem and we couldn't change it, only just work with what we had. This was opposite to the doom and gloom we were reading in the newspapers and on social media, and to a greater degree, influenced by.

He was right. In the end, we lost 3 customers, 1 later came back to us, 1 we were happy to loose and the last one was never heard off or seen again in the area. The estimate was that our area lost around 4500 jobs, directly and indirectly with the closing of British Steel on Teesside.

So again from me; thank you Vin.


I think most would agree, if anyone deserves praise it is you spruce

Whilst most of us have our moments of helpfulness you always go the extra mile in your responses and are the go to man on this forum and the other one.

Hats off to you sir. I always enjoy reading your posts as usually learn something.

Thanks Adam for your kind words. I'm glad I could help someone in some small way.

But as  said elsewhere, I honestly get far more from this and the other forum than I give - it seems that way to me anyway.

There was a man on here who started window cleaning despite having some really big health issues. I think I'm right that his name was Ash and he was in the Midlands somewhere. (I can't recall him being called Ash Bash Adam.) He was an inspiration to me.  Some days when I wasn't feeling so good I would just think about his situation. If he could do it then I really had no excuse.
His posts were like a tonic to me. Its like going into the hospital feeling like the end of your world is eminient and then seeing really ill people. You ask yourself,  what am I doing here as there is nothing wrong with me compared to them?

I think that one of those ommitted from the list is Alex Gardiner. What some of us have still to learn he has long forgotten. He has helped so many of us in this industry. Had it not been for his innovation where would the majority of us be today? Still using modified fish poles with DIY Bentley brushes? Or worse still, Unger Teleplus poles with oval Vikan brushes on the end? :o
Yes, Alex has a successful business but that's because he catered for the masses providing good product and a reasonable price that we could afford, and backing that up with superb after sales service. I tip my hat in respect to you sir.

Lets also not forget Steve Jones with his marvellous Aquadapter and the later Univalve. These have been and still are excellent, easy to operate water saving devices that have extended many a window cleaners working day.

I think there are many others to also mention, Peter Fogwill and Jeff Brimble come to mind from the early days of wfp era.

We thank you all.
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

Spruce

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Re: Help - That's been given to others
« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2018, 09:50:43 am »
For me there were many good helpful posts, but the main one was Matt the DIY guy. His advice got me set up with all the kit on my van and installed by myself (I hate diy! But needs must) and it’s all still going strong over 7 years later.

Yes, I remember him to.  ;D

There were 2 things I will never forget about him.

He was the only one who managed to run a window cleaning round wfp using a 50gpd r/o, or so we were told. It ran 24/7.

The other thing I remember was what was left of his Vikan oval brush after he had shaved the brush stock and drill holes in it to reduce the weight. It looked an eyesore, but that never bothered him. He flatly refused to spend any money on equipment unless he was forced to. He said the money was better spent on a holiday.

Those were the DIY years.  :)
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

p1w1

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Re: Help - That's been given to others
« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2018, 10:02:40 am »
For me there were many good helpful posts, but the main one was Matt the DIY guy. His advice got me set up with all the kit on my van and installed by myself (I hate diy! But needs must) and it’s all still going strong over 7 years later.

Yes, I remember him to.  ;D

There were 2 things I will never forget about him.

He was the only one who managed to run a window cleaning round wfp using a 50gpd r/o, or so we were told. It ran 24/7.

The other thing I remember was what was left of his Vikan oval brush after he had shaved the brush stock and drill holes in it to reduce the weight. It looked an eyesore, but that never bothered him. He flatly refused to spend any money on equipment unless he was forced to. He said the money was better spent on a holiday.

Those were the DIY years.  :)
Didn't he also claim to be the first to come up with the idea of making an electric reel with his drill (he may well have been)

Dry Clean

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Re: Help - That's been given to others
« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2018, 10:11:01 am »
What a great thread!
Yep, myself included, i have finely tuned my business from advice from this forum and no doubt will continue to do so.

The reason I like this thread is because theres a whole lotof guys n girls who read these threads but dont contribute to the discussions.  How much more so can we all perhaps learn a new trick or adapt a different method to what we are used to, if these ones also contribute.

Its just typical CIU, I would like to thank all the people on here who hold the same opinions as me, from reading your early posts your business seemed to be doing alright the only change now is for some reason you feel as if you need to put a CIU spin on it.
The bigest problem on here is there isnt a good enough representation of shiners from across the range, if your not a wfp user
on £500 a day who's able to work in all weather conditions and dump customers and replace on a whim then what have you really got to contribute.

That said for the sake of harmony......