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Steve Newres

New Expert/Dispatch
« on: January 17, 2018, 07:16:24 pm »
Anybody had experience of 1,000 payload model for single operator?

Bungle

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Re: New Expert/Dispatch
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2018, 08:06:39 pm »
Anybody had experience of 1,000 payload model for single operator?

I've got one. 1400kg payload. 2L engine. Half a tonne of water, me, tank, ladders, etc. It pulls really well.
We look at them, they look through them.

mark coates

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Re: New Expert/Dispatch
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2018, 09:14:19 pm »
As above but we have a 2 man 1000 litre set up, we also have a Transit Custom Sport and pound for pound the Peugeot is the better van.

Walter Mitty

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Re: New Expert/Dispatch
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2018, 10:35:24 pm »
I have a 2015 Dispatch with 1200 payload.  I have the one with the 2 litre engine (I understand there used to be issues with the 1.6 version).  There is a 700 litre tank in it.  It  pulls just fine.  The only slight irritation (so far) is that it goes through brake pads a lot quicker than I'm used to.  I used to get 45,000 miles out of the Renault Trafic pads but the ones in the dispatch seem to be around 18,000 - 22,000.  I do tend to decelerate well in advance which helps.

Pete Thompson

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Re: New Expert/Dispatch
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2018, 12:38:42 am »
Don’t forget the Toyota Proace version. It’s the exact same van, but 5 year warranty instead of 3.

Steve Newres

Re: New Expert/Dispatch
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2018, 09:42:20 pm »
Well I ordered a new Expert. Pretty good deal from Peugoet. Professional model, 115 bhp, for 15k three years interest free. I test drove one. As nice to drive as the Custom with a higher spec and much less money. Not bothered about residual values as it will be driven until it dies.

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Re: New Expert/Dispatch
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2018, 10:29:50 pm »
Well I ordered a new Expert. Pretty good deal from Peugoet. Professional model, 115 bhp, for 15k three years interest free. I test drove one. As nice to drive as the Custom with a higher spec and much less money. Not bothered about residual values as it will be driven until it dies.

I've never got the whole "residual value" thing- You pay for it up front. "they hold their value" yeah but that just cost you an extra 10k!! You're not buying an asset investment, it's gonna lose money every day for it's entire life.

I remember Dave Morris giving it large with the purchase of a top spec VW transporter....... Only to later concede that TWO Vivaros (or whatever they were) for the same money were far better value and made better business sense (obviously).

Sounds like a good buy, is that with or without vat?
Comfortably Numb!

P @ F

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Re: New Expert/Dispatch
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2018, 11:25:07 pm »
I remember that !
Metallic green T5 , he called me one day with pump failure , i took him a spare , when he opened the back door i laughed my rocks off , bungeed tank with speaker wired pumps !
Then he got the 2 Vivaros , which the boys wrecked .
Then he got 3 Nemos , which the boys wrecked .

Then he got rich as fook and knocks about in Ferraris and Porsches these days !!!
Fair play to him , dont think hes bothered about the loss on the VW anymore  ;D ;D ;D   
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

Steve Newres

Re: New Expert/Dispatch
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2018, 06:05:36 am »
Well I ordered a new Expert. Pretty good deal from Peugoet. Professional model, 115 bhp, for 15k three years interest free. I test drove one. As nice to drive as the Custom with a higher spec and much less money. Not bothered about residual values as it will be driven until it dies.

I've never got the whole "residual value" thing- You pay for it up front. "they hold their value" yeah but that just cost you an extra 10k!! You're not buying an asset investment, it's gonna lose money every day for it's entire life.

I remember Dave Morris giving it large with the purchase of a top spec VW transporter....... Only to later concede that TWO Vivaros (or whatever they were) for the same money were far better value and made better business sense (obviously).

Sounds like a good buy, is that with or without vat?
Without the VAT. Even at £18k it’s outstanding value. Even if you opt for a 5 year deal it’s the VAT as a deposit and only 2.9%.

Just as an aside. It’s from a main dealer. The online van companies have great headline prices and could possibly have offered the van a bit cheaper but if you manage to get the APR out of them (I couldn’t, I had to work it out myself as well as the total repayable) you’ll see it’s 7.2% and an extra grand or so over time.

Plus I have a 2006 Boxer still going strong, so there’s nothing inherently wrong with Peugeots compared to Fords.

I get the VW thing if you’re s sole trader and no car by the way. Otherwise I don’t get it at all.

cgh window cleaning

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Re: New Expert/Dispatch
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2018, 07:09:54 am »
What is the load space like on this in the back and what size tank will you have in it?
Did you go for the mwb?

Steve Newres

Re: New Expert/Dispatch
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2018, 07:46:18 am »
What is the load space like on this in the back and what size tank will you have in it?
Did you go for the mwb?
Medium size. I'd say slightly narrower than a Custom, but same lengthish. Probably 600 litre. It's a one man van mind you. Plenty of room for a guttervac besides the tank.

Don Kee

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Re: New Expert/Dispatch
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2018, 07:57:13 am »
Well I ordered a new Expert. Pretty good deal from Peugoet. Professional model, 115 bhp, for 15k three years interest free. I test drove one. As nice to drive as the Custom with a higher spec and much less money. Not bothered about residual values as it will be driven until it dies.

I've never got the whole "residual value" thing- You pay for it up front. "they hold their value" yeah but that just cost you an extra 10k!! You're not buying an asset investment, it's gonna lose money every day for it's entire life.

I remember Dave Morris giving it large with the purchase of a top spec VW transporter....... Only to later concede that TWO Vivaros (or whatever they were) for the same money were far better value and made better business sense (obviously).

Sounds like a good buy, is that with or without vat?
Without the VAT. Even at £18k it’s outstanding value. Even if you opt for a 5 year deal it’s the VAT as a deposit and only 2.9%.

Just as an aside. It’s from a main dealer. The online van companies have great headline prices and could possibly have offered the van a bit cheaper but if you manage to get the APR out of them (I couldn’t, I had to work it out myself as well as the total repayable) you’ll see it’s 7.2% and an extra grand or so over time.

Plus I have a 2006 Boxer still going strong, so there’s nothing inherently wrong with Peugeots compared to Fords.

I get the VW thing if you’re s sole trader and no car by the way. Otherwise I don’t get it at all.

No offence but it aint that great value comapared to the custom if you paid 18k. My Custom limited was/is 22k on HP.

I was on my own at the time though, probably wont buy new again (novelty has worn off as well)
Why don't you have a quick google before making stupid comments?

Steve Newres

Re: New Expert/Dispatch
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2018, 08:22:45 am »
Well I ordered a new Expert. Pretty good deal from Peugoet. Professional model, 115 bhp, for 15k three years interest free. I test drove one. As nice to drive as the Custom with a higher spec and much less money. Not bothered about residual values as it will be driven until it dies.

I've never got the whole "residual value" thing- You pay for it up front. "they hold their value" yeah but that just cost you an extra 10k!! You're not buying an asset investment, it's gonna lose money every day for it's entire life.

I remember Dave Morris giving it large with the purchase of a top spec VW transporter....... Only to later concede that TWO Vivaros (or whatever they were) for the same money were far better value and made better business sense (obviously).

Sounds like a good buy, is that with or without vat?
Without the VAT. Even at £18k it’s outstanding value. Even if you opt for a 5 year deal it’s the VAT as a deposit and only 2.9%.

Just as an aside. It’s from a main dealer. The online van companies have great headline prices and could possibly have offered the van a bit cheaper but if you manage to get the APR out of them (I couldn’t, I had to work it out myself as well as the total repayable) you’ll see it’s 7.2% and an extra grand or so over time.

Plus I have a 2006 Boxer still going strong, so there’s nothing inherently wrong with Peugeots compared to Fords.

I get the VW thing if you’re s sole trader and no car by the way. Otherwise I don’t get it at all.

No offence but it aint that great value comapared to the custom if you paid 18k. My Custom limited was/is 22k on HP.

I was on my own at the time though, probably wont buy new again (novelty has worn off as well)
What does the Custom Lmited have that the Professional doesn’t and what’s your total repayable? It’s the whole deal. I’ll bet you’re paying minimum £25k. So 6-7k less money is a good deal I’d say.  ;)

Don Kee

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Re: New Expert/Dispatch
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2018, 09:26:36 am »
You bet wrong my friend, thats all in.
(£300 a month over 60 months, plus the 3.5k down, although I think the last month is a £500 ish last payout)
Like you, I’ll be keeping this a fair old while.

In fairness, I bought mine when they were pushing the new euro 6 custom (mines a 5, 2.2 litre) so maybe they were a bit cheaper then?

No idea of the of the difference in spec , dont know what you get with the dispatch.
I like dispatch's mind, I’m just saying you probably could have got a better deal if you shopped around.

Like I said in previous post, I think I’d go nearly new if I ever go for another wagon; something with around 20k on the clock would do me just fine. Probably less spec as well, never use cruise control, heated seats etc....just gimmicks for me really as I dont do any journeys long enough to benefit.
Why don't you have a quick google before making stupid comments?

JandS

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Re: New Expert/Dispatch
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2018, 11:22:39 am »
Cheapest Expert I can find on their website is £23,700 on the road??
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

Steve Newres

Re: New Expert/Dispatch
« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2018, 11:49:36 am »
You bet wrong my friend, thats all in.
(£300 a month over 60 months, plus the 3.5k down, although I think the last month is a £500 ish last payout)
Like you, I’ll be keeping this a fair old while.

In fairness, I bought mine when they were pushing the new euro 6 custom (mines a 5, 2.2 litre) so maybe they were a bit cheaper then?

No idea of the of the difference in spec , dont know what you get with the dispatch.
I like dispatch's mind, I’m just saying you probably could have got a better deal if you shopped around.

Like I said in previous post, I think I’d go nearly new if I ever go for another wagon; something with around 20k on the clock would do me just fine. Probably less spec as well, never use cruise control, heated seats etc....just gimmicks for me really as I dont do any journeys long enough to benefit.

Here's the Custom deal from Vansdirect:

Vansdirect Net Vehicle Price   £   17196.00   Includes Road Tax & Registration Fees
            
VAT @ 20%   £   3439.20   VAT can be off-set in your VAT quarter
            
Total Vehicle Cost    £   20635.20   Net Price + VAT
            
Total Deposit    £   3439.20   Standard deposit is the VAT
            
Balance to fund   £   17196.00   Net Price + VAT less the Deposit
            
Length of Term       48   Months   
            
Monthly Payments   £   411.13   
            
So total £23,173  v £18,000. I'm quite pleased with the deal.

Steve Newres

Re: New Expert/Dispatch
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2018, 04:51:29 pm »
Cheapest Expert I can find on their website is £23,700 on the road??
Dealer discount of 34%.

NWH

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Re: New Expert/Dispatch
« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2018, 09:15:41 pm »
Dave Morris drives around in a Porsche or a Ferrari does he,he’s done well I remember him first going bigger than he was.

P @ F

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Re: New Expert/Dispatch
« Reply #18 on: January 26, 2018, 09:27:08 pm »
Dave Morris drives around in a Porsche or a Ferrari does he,he’s done well I remember him first going bigger than he was.

Yes , Dave has done very well , I think he has a Ferrari and a couple of Porsches  too !
He was selling one of the Posches a while back as he didnt have the time to drive it   >:( >:(   ;D
Got big holiday lets too i think , Debbie looks after them i believe .
So no , he hasnt done well at all really  ;D ;D ;D
I remember him telling me once , he came down to the Southwest with a bucket and Volvo estate and it just snowballed !!!
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

NWH

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Re: New Expert/Dispatch
« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2018, 10:43:43 pm »
Good luck to him I remember when he got the Tate down in Cornwall a massive job,got some grief with a couple of the pictures he took of his Mrs working in flip flops 😂