[The Jester of Wibbly]

I use the 6mm red supplied by grippa.  You can see it in the photo on that pic thread you put up.

I do find it a little heavier and more rubbery but it's worth it.

ah yes its the red thermobore.i used to have the same hose but gardiners only sold it in 8mm years ago.what a nightmare.far too heavy.although the 6mm would probably be ok.cheers mate.

https://www.grippatank.co.uk/thermobore-100m-reinforced-hose-6mm-id

[Splash & dash]

I use the 6mm red supplied by grippa.  You can see it in the photo on that pic thread you put up.

I do find it a little heavier and more rubbery but it's worth it
ah yes its the red thermobore.i used to have the same hose but gardiners only sold it in 8mm years ago.what a nightmare.far too heavy.although the 6mm would probably be ok.cheers mate.

https://www.grippatank.co.uk/thermobore-100m-reinforced-hose-6mm-id

It’s brilliant hose but very heavy I have one reel with it and one with yellow microbore the red is now 3 years old and I have changed the yellow once , if just doing commercial work I would stick to the red , but if doing domestic I think the yellow is better as it’s more manageable and easier to pull round corners , the difference in water temperature between the two is minimal

[Jonny 87]

Any updates on temperature daz?

With your hose coiled on the reel you should see a much higher reading.

 Also are you sure your heater isn’t stopping and starting during your work? If I’m Right in saying you didn’t get a second pump fitted to constantly recirculate and keep the heater running.  I heard someone else in here mention within about 2 minutes of having the water flow stopped, there heater goes into shut down.

[dazmond]

Grippa sell the 6mm red. They’re out of stock after I left Friday😅 although they may have more in by now.

im gonna stick to the standard yellow microbore mate for an easier working day.

[dazmond]

Any updates on temperature daz?

With your hose coiled on the reel you should see a much higher reading.

 Also are you sure your heater isn’t stopping and starting during your work? If I’m Right in saying you didn’t get a second pump fitted to constantly recirculate and keep the heater running.  I heard someone else in here mention within about 2 minutes of having the water flow stopped, there heater goes into shut down.

it was reading 44c when coiled up on the reel after the heater had been running for 20 mins(return to tank)on my way to work but with 90m of hose out this afternoon its only warm at brush end not hot due to losing a shedload of heat through the hose.

i expect the water to be a lot hotter in the warmer months but in winter warm water is all im gonna get apparently(with most of my hose off the reel.)

im just glad i didnt go for the 5kw heater as i reckon it wouldnt even get warm at the brush end.

[dd]

Yes. I am surprised they bother to sell the 5kw heater.

[Jonny 87]

Any updates on temperature daz?

With your hose coiled on the reel you should see a much higher reading.

 Also are you sure your heater isn’t stopping and starting during your work? If I’m Right in saying you didn’t get a second pump fitted to constantly recirculate and keep the heater running.  I heard someone else in here mention within about 2 minutes of having the water flow stopped, there heater goes into shut down.

it was reading 44c when coiled up on the reel after the heater had been running for 20 mins(return to tank)on my way to work but with 90m of hose out this afternoon its only warm at brush end not hot due to losing a shedload of heat through the hose.

i expect the water to be a lot hotter in the warmer months but in winter warm water is all im gonna get apparently(with most of my hose off the reel.)

im just glad i didnt go for the 5kw heater as i reckon it wouldnt even get warm at the brush end.

I wonder how much extra heat you would be getting if you had a second pump Fitted or had a pressure relief valve fitted.

In my mind that seems the best option. So you turn water off with the univalve, the pressure builds up, which in turn opens the relief valve, and hot water starts going back to the tank.

That would then mean your tank water would start to heat up, giving you a hotter header tank, and In turn hotter water at the brush head.

[NWH]

Mines a 5kw different model though I have a 300series thermo too C it’s an older version although I got mine 2 months ago brand new as they still stock  them. I am achieving on flow 10 on the controller 68-72 degrees back to tank method between jobs,when I jack it up to 70-75 on the flow I’m easily getting 40-50 degrees. A lot of it in my experience with them is all about the condition of the battery’s if you have optimum charger  he heater will perform far better. I do a lot of miles day to day which puts a fair bit back into them if I mains hook up in between one evening it pumps like a porn star my heater.

[The Jester of Wibbly]

I use a second controller to continually feed back to tank.  Only on a low flow rate.  The tank heats up nicely and helps keep burner up to temp

[Jonny 87]

In use a second controller to continually feed back to tank.  Only on a low flow rate.  The tank heats up nicely and helps keep burner up to temp

I reckon this has to be the best way.

👍

[NWH]

It’s not done to heat the water in the tank it wouldn’t be possible in a 600 ltr tank over the course  of a day to make any difference,I do it to get the water temp up traveling between jobs.

[dazmond]

Mines a 5kw different model though I have a 300series thermo too C it’s an older version although I got mine 2 months ago brand new as they still stock  them. I am achieving on flow 10 on the controller 68-72 degrees back to tank method between jobs,when I jack it up to 70-75 on the flow I’m easily getting 40-50 degrees. A lot of it in my experience with them is all about the condition of the battery’s if you have optimum charger  he heater will perform far better. I do a lot of miles day to day which puts a fair bit back into them if I mains hook up in between one evening it pumps like a porn star my heater.

how come your 5 kw heater gets to  higher temperatures than my 9.9kw heater?

[The Jester of Wibbly]

It’s not done to heat the water in the tank it wouldn’t be possible in a 600 ltr tank over the course  of a day to make any difference,I do it to get the water temp up traveling between jobs.

Mine is 400ltr.  I only fill up enough to cover the day.  By the afternoon the what's left in the tank is then hot.

During the morning the water slowly climbs and helps increase the temp via hose. Replicates the increase in temp in the summer

[dazmond]

my batteries are brand new and so is my b to b smart charger

[Jonny 87]

It’s not done to heat the water in the tank it wouldn’t be possible in a 600 ltr tank over the course  of a day to make any difference,I do it to get the water temp up traveling between jobs.

Here’s quite a few users on here do it this way, and they say by the afternoon the water is sometimes so hot they turn the burner off.

Plus it means you have a higher starting temperature of the water. So it has to increase your output temperature.

[dazmond]

It’s not done to heat the water in the tank it wouldn’t be possible in a 600 ltr tank over the course  of a day to make any difference,I do it to get the water temp up traveling between jobs.

Here’s quite a few users on here do it this way, and they say by the afternoon the water is sometimes so hot they turn the burner off.

Plus it means you have a higher starting temperature of the water. So it has to increase your output temperature.

i very much doubt  you ll have say 250L of hot water left in your tank by lunchtime even with a return to tank constantly running using another controller.i could be wrong though.

[Klean07]

Think I'll stick with cold....

Plus 1!

[Tristan R Clean]

If had shelled out £4-5k on a heated system I would expect at the very least piping hot water.
With the option of being able to turn the heat down.

Tris

[Jonny 87]

If had shelled out £4-5k on a heated system I would expect at the very least piping hot water.
With the option of being able to turn the heat down.

Tris

You really don’t want to use anything hotter than 50 degrees on the glass, and the 9kw heaters are more than capable of that. Plus no chance of blowing yourself up with lpg. 

[Splash & dash]

It’s not done to heat the water in the tank it wouldn’t be possible in a 600 ltr tank over the course  of a day to make any difference,I do it to get the water temp up traveling between jobs.

 It does make a big difference I have a 1000 ltr tank by lunch time 500 ltr in the tank is that hot you couldn’t keep your hand in it