[paul alan]

Last week I converted a gardiner's compact brush from 2 jets to 3 jets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2QTd1GBfkQ

All 2 mm bore, today I got to use it and its pretty good. Gives plenty enough flow and fills the gap that gets left when using the standard 2 jets.

When rinsing narrow windows all you have to do is pull down to rinse, when rinsing windows that are roughly twice the width of the brush its just a couple of straight pulls down for rinsing. It gives roughly an 8-10" "bar" of water across the glass.

I know some people will think its a bit sad messing around with jets....maybe it is......but it made today that little bit more interesting for me.

Can I just say thanks to NWH for the idea!

[robbo333]

Nice quick video. I might give it a go. Anything that speeds us up has got to be good.
Cheers
Robbo

[Jonny 87]

I think it looks great to be honest.

I wish gardiner brushes came with more options jet wise, rinse bars etc.

Wonder if it’s something Alex has ever thought about? 

[Dry Clean]

Your only half a man, Nathan has 6 jets. lol.

[nathankaye]

Its good to tinker with things for work instead of just accepting the standard work gear.  Sadly many have the attitude that if it aint broken then why bother, but as your finding out, just a little bit of extra effort one day to tweek something can make a big difference

[nathankaye]

Or with size of the brush, you could try the bissel spray bar

https://youtu.be/nDZFZrTCegk

[Dry Clean]

Its good to tinker with things for work instead of just accepting the standard work gear.  Sadly many have the attitude that if it aint broken then why bother, but as your finding out, just a little bit of extra effort one day to tweek something can make a big difference

LOL, if ain't broke, think about what that means Nathan, plus while your thinking ask yourself how can many go out with a
extreme brush, two jets, cold water and get the same results that it takes you a brick with six jets and hot water to achieve.

[duncan h]

Quite like the idea of 3 jets

[nathankaye]

Its good to tinker with things for work instead of just accepting the standard work gear.  Sadly many have the attitude that if it aint broken then why bother, but as your finding out, just a little bit of extra effort one day to tweek something can make a big difference

LOL, if ain't broke, think about what that means Nathan, plus while your thinking ask yourself how can many go out with a
extreme brush, two jets, cold water and get the same results that it takes you a brick with six jets and hot water to achieve.

Same results perhaps....... Just different times in doing so 
(Me being the faster)

[paul alan]

Yes we achieve the same results, but its done in a different manner.

Do you ever watch that !I'm a celebrity"? do you see how hacked off they all get when they have to eat beans and rice for so many nights in a row?

Variety is the spice of life and in this game there isn't much except the little things you can play around with just to add a little "variety" to your day.

Were all individuals and the wfp market is just not catering to everyone's tastes currently. which is why I like to tinker, and you never know one day I might just find something that does make a big difference to my working day.

Stranger things have happened!

[nathankaye]

I for one do t discourage it but encourage it. Thats how weve got here in the first place and how window cleaning has developed from newspaper n vinegar 

Also your absolutely right, the suppliers sell what the buge majority of shiners want, with the exception of price n quality, ie a budget kit would get you a fibreglass pole, whereas tbe next step is a hybrid pole or a little more would get you carbon. If you like your carbon why not go for.....

So its nice to make your equipment more personal to how you work and the speed in which you want to do so

[paul alan]

I think if you look at it this way, from the tap ,through the ro, into the tank ,through the pump, through the reel, up the pole hose ,through the pole, through the brush, the water flow is the thing out of everything that cleans the window after agitation.

I think there is a lot of scope there to change the way we clean windows!

[Dry Clean]

I think if you look at it this way, from the tap ,through the ro, into the tank ,through the pump, through the reel, up the pole hose ,through the pole, through the brush, the water flow is the thing out of everything that cleans the window after agitation.

I think there is a lot of scope there to change the way we clean windows!

There's very little scope left Paul, it why you get company's like Unger coming out with idiotic rubbish to try and get themselves into the wfp market.
Eventually there might be something to replace wfp but wfp as a method has sort of got to where its possible to go.

[Dry Clean]

Its good to tinker with things for work instead of just accepting the standard work gear.  Sadly many have the attitude that if it aint broken then why bother, but as your finding out, just a little bit of extra effort one day to tweek something can make a big difference

LOL, if ain't broke, think about what that means Nathan, plus while your thinking ask yourself how can many go out with a
extreme brush, two jets, cold water and get the same results that it takes you a brick with six jets and hot water to achieve.

Same results perhaps....... Just different times in doing so 
(Me being the faster)

Using a sledge hammer to crack a nut only seems faster.

[paul alan]

I think if you look at it this way, from the tap ,through the ro, into the tank ,through the pump, through the reel, up the pole hose ,through the pole, through the brush, the water flow is the thing out of everything that cleans the window after agitation.

I think there is a lot of scope there to change the way we clean windows!

There's very little scope left Paul, it why you get company's like Unger coming out with idiotic rubbish to try and get themselves into the wfp market.
Eventually there might be something to replace wfp but wfp as a method has sort of got to where its possible to go.

I disagree mate, there must be something more to it!

Even if its something small that'll make a 5% improvement i'm sure it'll be welcomed.

Let's not write the game off here and now, it's not been fully exhausted yet.

[Alex Gardiner]

I think it looks great to be honest.

I wish gardiner brushes came with more options jet wise, rinse bars etc.

Wonder if it’s something Alex has ever thought about? 

Never crossed my mind 

Overspray Rinse Bar Assembly   https://youtu.be/ggTdbL8rFa4


Every brush we sell has a minimum of 3 different jet type options with the wider brushes having 7 different options. Add in the option of an Overspray Rinse Bar and then also the other two types of Oversprays available and this gives 9 different jet options on a lot of our brushes.

 I suppose it’s a start   

Tri-jet - something to think about 

[windowswashed]

Tried Gardiners rinse bar and the problem with it is the spray is not uniformed, it goes everywhere. Try cleaning accurately with it and water will be going on the frames and above pulling all the dirt from above on to the clean glass. Even a simple Bissell hoover rinse bar is much more accurate and a joy to work with. It's not fan jets you need on a rinse bar but as many tiny jets as possible as close together just hitting the glass just above the top row of bristles accurately and uniformed to give a really good curtain of water right where it's ideal, rather than 4-6 jets evenly spaced in the middle of stock brushes. Try it for yourself to compare the difference. The method I use is similar to traditional window cleaners, it works, been doing it this way with Bissell bars and constructor brushes for about a year and it's so much better than 2 or even 4 jets especially on large panes of glass.

[Jonny 87]

I think it looks great to be honest.

I wish gardiner brushes came with more options jet wise, rinse bars etc.

Wonder if it’s something Alex has ever thought about? 

Never crossed my mind 

Overspray Rinse Bar Assembly   https://youtu.be/ggTdbL8rFa4


Every brush we sell has a minimum of 3 different jet type options with the wider brushes having 7 different options. Add in the option of an Overspray Rinse Bar and then also the other two types of Oversprays available and this gives 9 different jet options on a lot of our brushes.

 I suppose it’s a start   

Tri-jet - something to think about 

Ah!

I’d forgotten about that rinse bar actually!

I’d definitely like an option of three jets, one centred and two closer to the edge.

Or even four spaced out jets on the standard size brush. I find with four jets currently the jets are just too close together for me.

More options the better, aslong as people buy them of course and it is viable.

[Den68]

I have recently started to use the 100 degree fan jets from gardiner rinse on without any problems, I started to rinse on downstairs windows only at first and double checked after each job very happy with the results life is easier and faster now.
Also to add I use the ultimate medium soft the ultimate medium yellowbrush is the one recommended for rinsing on but I'm having good results with the ultimate flock also.

[Den68]

Last week I converted a gardiner's compact brush from 2 jets to 3 jets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2QTd1GBfkQ

All 2 mm bore, today I got to use it and its pretty good. Gives plenty enough flow and fills the gap that gets left when using the standard 2 jets.

Could be on to something with this.
Looks high flow rate?
Looks like you have a slight leak from one of the connectors?
Also do you use  a univalve and does it effect it  as the extra connectors makes the stock look extra busy and will that effect windows that are installed closed to soffits.

Not knocking the idea just a few questions,  seems you went to the effort  of drilling one hole for your ideal jet spacing why not drill two ideal holes and have four jets as looking at your water pressure I think four jets would be sufficient.



When rinsing narrow windows all you have to do is pull down to rinse, when rinsing windows that are roughly twice the width of the brush its just a couple of straight pulls down for rinsing. It gives roughly an 8-10" "bar" of water across the glass.

I know some people will think its a bit sad messing around with jets....maybe it is......but it made today that little bit more interesting for me.