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NWH

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Re: Hot Water Systems
« Reply #40 on: November 07, 2017, 10:27:30 am »
The comfort is purely a bonus hot water is an alround better way to clean.

Dry Clean

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Re: Hot Water Systems
« Reply #41 on: November 07, 2017, 03:17:03 pm »
The comfort is purely a bonus hot water is an alround better way to clean.

Nonsense, if your looking a better way to clean you'll need a PPB machine, hot water minimum 80degrees, a pump able to deliver 100lts per minute, a wonder additive, a 800g 42inch soft hard and medium mixed brush with 300 jets pencil and fan mixed, plus for first cleans a heavy duty degreaser, even with all that you wont get a perfect job because wfp doesn't work.

Susan Dean (1stclean)

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Re: Hot Water Systems
« Reply #42 on: November 07, 2017, 04:21:09 pm »
wow loads of heating engineers on here if they knew that much why are they cleaning windows and not fitting boilers earning much more money ? 

AuRavelling79

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Re: Hot Water Systems
« Reply #43 on: November 07, 2017, 04:39:04 pm »
wow loads of heating engineers on here if they knew that much why are they cleaning windows and not fitting boilers earning much more money ?

You make a good point Deano!

Mind you at £400 a day it's pretty close.
It's a game of three halves!

Spruce

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Re: Hot Water Systems
« Reply #44 on: November 07, 2017, 05:09:00 pm »
That is to much faffing for me I turn my heater on and in 5-6 minutes I have hot water I know your saying you just plug yours in and it’s heat Nathan but I pre beat mine on the way to the first job and it’s piping hot when I pull up and get going.

If you have a split charge relay the van's alternator will be supplying the initial power requirement to fire up the boiler rather than your auxillary battery.

Heating on demand is the most efficient way of heating just the water you are using.

If Nathan heats up his tank but for some reason couldn't go out that day, then he has wasted all that electricity.

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Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

Splash & dash

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Re: Hot Water Systems
« Reply #45 on: November 07, 2017, 05:46:04 pm »
I have a 9 kw wabasto system fitted by Grippatank it’s awsome but not cheap to run , we have 2 hose reels going all day if water isn’t going on the glass it’s returning to the tank by lunch time the tank is quite warm and we have a 1000 ltr system it’s not cheap to run though I put about £70 a week In Fuel in the vehicle tank cannot work out the mpg or how much the wabasto uses as it’s the same tank but at a guess I think it’s got to be 1 ltr per hour or maybe slightly more most of my work is close to home apart from the stuff we do In Bristol . Personally I would t go back to cold hot is quicker , better results don’t ask me why but it is used cold for 10 years then put a boiler in and finish is better better shine on the glass , we do loads of plastic cleans , industrial building wash downs , cladding, solar panels , time saving is very good on the very dirty stuff , we use it all year round and it’s running 8 hours a day minimum

nathankaye

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Re: Hot Water Systems
« Reply #46 on: November 07, 2017, 05:54:15 pm »
That is to much faffing for me I turn my heater on and in 5-6 minutes I have hot water I know your saying you just plug yours in and it’s heat Nathan but I pre beat mine on the way to the first job and it’s piping hot when I pull up and get going.

If you have a split charge relay the van's alternator will be supplying the initial power requirement to fire up the boiler rather than your auxillary battery.

Heating on demand is the most efficient way of heating just the water you are using.

If Nathan heats up his tank but for some reason couldn't go out that day, then he has wasted all that electricity.

.

Sadly your right. Ive done that before where family took ill during night so i was left baby sitting 😭

But since however long its been on hot, i aint going back to cold
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brianbarber

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Re: Hot Water Systems
« Reply #47 on: November 07, 2017, 06:04:10 pm »
Agree pretty much with this, same unit, I estimate it's more like 1.25  litres an hour, although if not using two pumps, one can be switched on recirculate, which heats the tank water, in turn allowing you to turn off the boiler by early afternoon, should you wish...
That is all

Mr B

I have a 9 kw wabasto system fitted by Grippatank it’s awsome but not cheap to run , we have 2 hose reels going all day if water isn’t going on the glass it’s returning to the tank by lunch time the tank is quite warm and we have a 1000 ltr system it’s not cheap to run though I put about £70 a week In Fuel in the vehicle tank cannot work out the mpg or how much the wabasto uses as it’s the same tank but at a guess I think it’s got to be 1 ltr per hour or maybe slightly more most of my work is close to home apart from the stuff we do In Bristol . Personally I would t go back to cold hot is quicker , better results don’t ask me why but it is used cold for 10 years then put a boiler in and finish is better better shine on the glass , we do loads of plastic cleans , industrial building wash downs , cladding, solar panels , time saving is very good on the very dirty stuff , we use it all year round and it’s running 8 hours a day minimum
If in doubt.....Leave it out !!

NWH

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Re: Hot Water Systems
« Reply #48 on: November 07, 2017, 06:19:28 pm »
Hot not better than cold lol this just makes me smile forget the benefits of the actual cleaning results this time of year cold WFP hose like amour plated wire,brush hoses and brush bristles frozen alomost solid and cleaning results on frames and sills very very poor. Hot water is a pleasure to work with all year round but especially on cold days,if your moaning about hot being no better you’ve not used a hot system,and as for 80 odd degree water being needed lol it’s not 45-50 degree is more than adequate,we are cleaning Windows not car engines.

Dry Clean

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Re: Hot Water Systems
« Reply #49 on: November 07, 2017, 07:03:20 pm »
Hot not better than cold lol this just makes me smile forget the benefits of the actual cleaning results this time of year cold WFP hose like amour plated wire,brush hoses and brush bristles frozen alomost solid and cleaning results on frames and sills very very poor. Hot water is a pleasure to work with all year round but especially on cold days,if your moaning about hot being no better you’ve not used a hot system,and as for 80 odd degree water being needed lol it’s not 45-50 degree is more than adequate,we are cleaning Windows not car engines.

45degrees is just a warm bath everybody knows the sweet spot is 81.554958degrees, that's when the water becomes one with
the dirt.

dazmond

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Re: Hot Water Systems
« Reply #50 on: November 07, 2017, 07:10:06 pm »
Hot not better than cold lol this just makes me smile forget the benefits of the actual cleaning results this time of year cold WFP hose like amour plated wire,brush hoses and brush bristles frozen alomost solid and cleaning results on frames and sills very very poor. Hot water is a pleasure to work with all year round but especially on cold days,if your moaning about hot being no better you’ve not used a hot system,and as for 80 odd degree water being needed lol it’s not 45-50 degree is more than adequate,we are cleaning Windows not car engines.

obviously having warm water on a cold day is nice but IMO its not worth the extra cost and extra faffing about.we hardly ever get any cold weather these days anyway.

also when i was using hot every day i never finished work earlier because i got round quicker.its a myth.i still clean 4 or 5 three bed semis an hour just like i did with hot.my larger jobs,again just as long to clean whether its hot or cold water.

the windows are just as clean too.you cant get cleaner than clean.hot water doesnt remove leaf stains,spider poo etc off frames either(just like cold doesnt).
price higher/work harder!

Shrek

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Re: Hot Water Systems
« Reply #51 on: November 07, 2017, 07:21:14 pm »
Hot not better than cold lol this just makes me smile forget the benefits of the actual cleaning results this time of year cold WFP hose like amour plated wire,brush hoses and brush bristles frozen alomost solid and cleaning results on frames and sills very very poor. Hot water is a pleasure to work with all year round but especially on cold days,if your moaning about hot being no better you’ve not used a hot system,and as for 80 odd degree water being needed lol it’s not 45-50 degree is more than adequate,we are cleaning Windows not car engines.

obviously having warm water on a cold day is nice but IMO its not worth the extra cost and extra faffing about.we hardly ever get any cold weather these days anyway.

also when i was using hot every day i never finished work earlier because i got round quicker.its a myth.i still clean 4 or 5 three bed semis an hour just like i did with hot.my larger jobs,again just as long to clean whether its hot or cold water.

the windows are just as clean too.you cant get cleaner than clean.hot water doesnt remove leaf stains,spider poo etc off frames either(just like cold doesnt).

It might not remove leaf stains but it sure does remove splattered cement!  ;D

NWH

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Re: Hot Water Systems
« Reply #52 on: November 07, 2017, 07:23:57 pm »
I know what I’d rather use I’ve used both 80 degree water would be unusable in even today’s weather at the brush head,you have a cracking day literally.

Dry Clean

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Re: Hot Water Systems
« Reply #53 on: November 07, 2017, 07:27:15 pm »
Hot not better than cold lol this just makes me smile forget the benefits of the actual cleaning results this time of year cold WFP hose like amour plated wire,brush hoses and brush bristles frozen alomost solid and cleaning results on frames and sills very very poor. Hot water is a pleasure to work with all year round but especially on cold days,if your moaning about hot being no better you’ve not used a hot system,and as for 80 odd degree water being needed lol it’s not 45-50 degree is more than adequate,we are cleaning Windows not car engines.

obviously having warm water on a cold day is nice but IMO its not worth the extra cost and extra faffing about.we hardly ever get any cold weather these days anyway.

also when i was using hot every day i never finished work earlier because i got round quicker.its a myth.i still clean 4 or 5 three bed semis an hour just like i did with hot.my larger jobs,again just as long to clean whether its hot or cold water.

the windows are just as clean too.you cant get cleaner than clean.hot water doesnt remove leaf stains,spider poo etc off frames either(just like cold doesnt).

It might not remove leaf stains but it sure does remove splattered cement!  ;D

That's why I stopped using it, my clients sills and render around the windows were melting with every clean. lol.

p1w1

  • Posts: 3873
Re: Hot Water Systems
« Reply #54 on: November 07, 2017, 07:33:51 pm »
Hot not better than cold lol this just makes me smile forget the benefits of the actual cleaning results this time of year cold WFP hose like amour plated wire,brush hoses and brush bristles frozen alomost solid and cleaning results on frames and sills very very poor. Hot water is a pleasure to work with all year round but especially on cold days,if your moaning about hot being no better you’ve not used a hot system,and as for 80 odd degree water being needed lol it’s not 45-50 degree is more than adequate,we are cleaning Windows not car engines.

obviously having warm water on a cold day is nice but IMO its not worth the extra cost and extra faffing about.we hardly ever get any cold weather these days anyway.

also when i was using hot every day i never finished work earlier because i got round quicker.its a myth.i still clean 4 or 5 three bed semis an hour just like i did with hot.my larger jobs,again just as long to clean whether its hot or cold water.

the windows are just as clean too.you cant get cleaner than clean.hot water doesnt remove leaf stains,spider poo etc off frames either(just like cold doesnt).

It might not remove leaf stains but it sure does remove splattered cement!  ;D
;D ;D

p1w1

  • Posts: 3873
Re: Hot Water Systems
« Reply #55 on: November 07, 2017, 07:34:27 pm »
Hot not better than cold lol this just makes me smile forget the benefits of the actual cleaning results this time of year cold WFP hose like amour plated wire,brush hoses and brush bristles frozen alomost solid and cleaning results on frames and sills very very poor. Hot water is a pleasure to work with all year round but especially on cold days,if your moaning about hot being no better you’ve not used a hot system,and as for 80 odd degree water being needed lol it’s not 45-50 degree is more than adequate,we are cleaning Windows not car engines.

obviously having warm water on a cold day is nice but IMO its not worth the extra cost and extra faffing about.we hardly ever get any cold weather these days anyway.

also when i was using hot every day i never finished work earlier because i got round quicker.its a myth.i still clean 4 or 5 three bed semis an hour just like i did with hot.my larger jobs,again just as long to clean whether its hot or cold water.

the windows are just as clean too.you cant get cleaner than clean.hot water doesnt remove leaf stains,spider poo etc off frames either(just like cold doesnt).

It might not remove leaf stains but it sure does remove splattered cement!  ;D

That's why I stopped using it, my clients sills and render around the windows were melting with every clean. lol.
Stop it  ;D

Tristan R Clean

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Re: Hot Water Systems
« Reply #56 on: November 07, 2017, 07:35:30 pm »
These diesel Webasto units seem a costly option .
I had an electrician fit me a 3kw immersion heater into my delivery tank in garage.
All done properly with armoured cable, rcd and on a timer.
Cost me a few hundred quid.

I just flick the switch on on an evening if I know it’s going to be freezing next day .
Stays warm for most of the day( no freezing pipes)

For me - this is the simplest most cost effective way of keeping your system winter proof.

Tris

NWH

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Re: Hot Water Systems
« Reply #57 on: November 07, 2017, 07:38:28 pm »
I’m going back to cold then after listening to this and I’m just going for a cold bath and clean the car and  dishes in cold water sod this,who knows I might even crack my elderado tomorrow or 150 after 8-9hrs on the glass 😂 what a load of 💩

dazmond

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Re: Hot Water Systems
« Reply #58 on: November 07, 2017, 07:48:32 pm »
I’m going back to cold then after listening to this and I’m just going for a cold bath and clean the car and  dishes in cold water sod this,who knows I might even crack my elderado tomorrow or 150 after 8-9hrs on the glass 😂 what a load of 💩

 ;D ;D ;D

i think its much more important to have a heated drivers seat in my van than a hot water system these days nigel! ;D

yes i clean the van and car with cold pure and guess what?it takes the same time as with hot. ;)

...obviously i dont have a cold bath....that would be a stupid thing to do!
price higher/work harder!

Spruce

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Re: Hot Water Systems
« Reply #59 on: November 07, 2017, 08:43:18 pm »
Hot not better than cold lol this just makes me smile forget the benefits of the actual cleaning results this time of year cold WFP hose like amour plated wire,brush hoses and brush bristles frozen alomost solid and cleaning results on frames and sills very very poor. Hot water is a pleasure to work with all year round but especially on cold days,if your moaning about hot being no better you’ve not used a hot system,and as for 80 odd degree water being needed lol it’s not 45-50 degree is more than adequate,we are cleaning Windows not car engines.

45degrees is just a warm bath everybody knows the sweet spot is 81.554958degrees, that's when the water becomes one with
the dirt.

 ;D ;D ;D
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)