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jo5hm4n

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UPVC Peeling off?
« on: November 05, 2017, 04:12:00 pm »



One of my customers brown upvc frames have been going dodgy for a while now, but suddenly in the last month or so, they have started peeling and the plastic has gone hard.  Weird to explain, never seen anything like it.  Look at photos, have any of you had this problem before?

I just want to give her some advice, as she has contacted the company that fitted the upvc windows and they sort of just fobbed her off really.

Can anybody recommend best way for her to fix this if it is at all fixable?

Thanks

p1w1

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Re: UPVC Peeling off?
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2017, 04:21:20 pm »
It's the laminate pealing  off, nothing you can do really. Those type of windows are basically like a white upvc window that has a laminate on it to give the brown wooden effect.
They look old windows anyway.

andyM

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Re: UPVC Peeling off?
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2017, 04:25:06 pm »
Was they like that before you started cleaning them?
One of the Plebs

jo5hm4n

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Re: UPVC Peeling off?
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2017, 04:29:58 pm »
Was they like that before you started cleaning them?

Been cleaning them since 2013.  They weren't but over the years they have slowly got worse and worse.

andyM

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Re: UPVC Peeling off?
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2017, 04:39:21 pm »
Was they like that before you started cleaning them?

Been cleaning them since 2013.  They weren't but over the years they have slowly got worse and worse.

In my opinion the age of the windows is probably a factor, which in combination with uv rays has led to adhesive de-laminating from the foil/laminate veneer.
There's nothing that can be done to remedy those frames now as far as I'm aware.
However WFP won't be helping either if you are scrubbing those frames with a brush.
I've got a customer with similar frames that I have been cleaning for around 6 years, they were starting to show some signs of de-laminating in small areas when I first took them on.
I just rinse over the frames and never use the brush to scrub them and to be honest in 6 years they have not really got any worse.
So my advice would be to treat them carefully when cleaning them, so you won't be making them any worse and at least you won't get any accusations thrown in your direction.
   
One of the Plebs

paul alan

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Re: UPVC Peeling off?
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2017, 05:39:04 pm »
I have some exactly the same in abergele on a bungalow, I just trad them so I cant be accused of damaging them with the brush.

paul alan

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Re: UPVC Peeling off?
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2017, 05:40:02 pm »
I have some exactly the same in abergele on a bungalow, I just trad them so I cant be accused of damaging them with the brush.

could be expansion and contraction through the seasons??

Marc Stock

Re: UPVC Peeling off?
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2017, 01:33:27 pm »
Its the UV light degrading the adhesive.

This is very common, especially with south facing windows.


SB Cleaning

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Re: UPVC Peeling off?
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2017, 01:58:06 pm »
Was they like that before you started cleaning them?

Been cleaning them since 2013.  They weren't but over the years they have slowly got worse and worse.
wear and tear....nothing lasts forever.

Dry Clean

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Re: UPVC Peeling off?
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2017, 02:54:28 pm »
Good quality upvc windows can have guarantees of 30 years or more including the brown, therefore you could expect them to last
a lot longer than that.
What you're looking at there are cheap poor quality frames, either the customer has went cheap or been ripped off.