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Rinse bar brushes
« on: October 19, 2017, 09:45:53 pm »


This is one of many brushes I have fitted 27 jet rinse bars to.  They work really good with a fairly high flow of water just above the top of the bristles giving a complete coverage of water just above the bristles to get a nice curtain of clean water sheeting just above the brush as I come down the window vertically instead of horizontally. For larger windows I clean the top and side of windows in two passes and the remainder I clean a combination of either vertically, horizontally or both. Have to change the angle so the sheet of water doesn't go too high on the frames to clean and beware where your sheet of water above the brush is in relation to not pulling down dirt from the frames but it's easy to achieve.

Saves so much hard work using just two or four jets. Changed my way of working with brush on glass. I love using reach-it constructor brushes despite their weight as I can configure the type of bristles to my job requirements but used on 30ft plus light extreme poles is a bit of a strain without risking snapping sections hence why I've fitted these lightweight bissell spraybars on my lighter brushes.

Wish Gardiners would look into manufacturing something along these lines as they are really good, ideally one long enough to cover their extreme wide brushes would be ideal as these bissell spray bars are only long enough for the short brushes. 

I for one will never go back to using just two jets, haven't used just two jets in years as the water sprays everywhere and is less controllable especially if rinsing off method on windy days.

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Re: Rinse bar brushes
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2017, 09:24:26 am »
Didnt Nathankaye do this a while back , or is this not a Bissel bar ?
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

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Re: Rinse bar brushes
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2017, 11:32:30 pm »
I have a good idea how to convert Gardiner brushes into decent  rinse brushes that would fit any of their brushes as I've tried Gardiners rinse bar stuff and there is room for a lot of improvement. Happy to speak with Alex about it but no email contact on his website so guess I will just have to keep my ideas to myself  :) Even got a good idea how he can make his brushes so that the bristles can be swapped for any configuration.  For anyone that brushes on the glass try bissell spray bars and see the difference for yourself. I've tried working with  rinse bars in the middle of the brush and it  doesn't give the same results hence why it's so much quicker using rinse bars as close to the bristles over the top of the brush than in the centre of the stock.

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Re: Rinse bar brushes
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2017, 12:42:06 am »
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Re: Rinse bar brushes New
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2017, 05:50:52 pm »
In that clip he is only using every other jet. It works better using every jet with a higher flow so  a decent,  continuous, sheet of water can run across the entire length of the brush so only need to come straight down  slim windows rather than coming down zig zagging across the window.  This method keeps clean water above the bristles and can come down quicker than the water flows.

Jets in the centre of the brush means coming down horizontally zig zagging or doing strips up to two feet wide pooling the water at the top of the glass, then coming down.
Rinse bar on top, sheet of water just where you want it and straight down, simple for those who brush on without lifting off. Water won't be splashing everywhere over a wider area that pencil jets create especially if rinsing off the glass so no comeback on dirty windows unless water hits above the top of window frames which is easy to avoid.

https://youtu.be/c4zMYwn9d80

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Re: Rinse bar brushes
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2017, 06:55:28 pm »
Looks pretty good!  Is that running from the van setup?
The one i did was using a smaller lpm but 150psi pump in a trolley system compared to a van mount, hence the need to close off every 2nd hole
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Re: Rinse bar brushes
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2017, 08:21:54 pm »
The one in that last vid clip on you tube was run from an outside tap or Americans with much higher flow pumps. I run a Flojet 100psi  pump on a flow of 66 with every jet open and that's plenty enough for a decent cascade of water across the top of brush using bissell bars. I could turn it up to 75-80 on the flow and it wouldn't make a great deal of extra difference flow wise other than deplete my 115 amp battery too quickly. 

If I use  a constructor bush  with 31 + 4 jets then I run it on 65-69 flow which gives approximately the same cascade of water but the brush is wider by about 3-4 inches. My first choice is reach-it constructor brushes as you can mix the bristle types and the brush is wider but also heavier hence why I love the bissell bar on lighter brushes on high work using extreme poles

I have two flo-jet pumps in the van both 100psi, one is 5.6 lpm the other is 7.6 lpm so not sure which one is connected to pump in van and which one is spare

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Re: Rinse bar brushes
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2017, 08:44:46 pm »
I wondered as the you tube vid showed a powerful flow.
Whereas the one on my vid was with a 4lpm 150psi  pump in a trolley from a 12v 7 amp hour battery.
Theres no way where i live in england any chance of running straight from the tap. My area has a tds close to 300.
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Re: Rinse bar brushes
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2017, 09:00:04 pm »
Where do you get them from??

They seem to be discontinued in a lot of places.

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Re: Rinse bar brushes
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2017, 09:02:18 pm »
I wondered as the you tube vid showed a powerful flow.
Whereas the one on my vid was with a 4lpm 150psi  pump in a trolley from a 12v 7 amp hour battery.
Theres no way where i live in england any chance of running straight from the tap. My area has a tds close to 300.

If you use a van mount use a higher flow pump.

I tried blocking every other jet but then you don't get get a complete coverage as the gaps leave an interrupted cascade across the top with the water.
I tried Gardiners spray bar (the one that can be adjusted for the angle on glass) with two spray jet 50 red ones, nice flow but not enough coverage, so I tried 4 red jets which gave more coverage but still not enough to cover the brush area and the spray was a bit too messy on the glass.  I couldn't add more jets as I'd lose too much pressure because of the high flow output.
So I tried the black jets which gave a much wider coverage but very little flow on the glass and too thin for a heavy cascade of water to work. The good thing about the bissell bars is they have a good build up of water in the plastic casing before it's directed out of the very tiny holes similar to the reach-it style.
I had previously been using 4-8 jets in the middle of brushes to try to get the same effect as sheeting water cascading over the bristles at the top but it had it's limitations. 

paul alan

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Re: Rinse bar brushes
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2017, 09:07:06 pm »
Where do you get them from??

They seem to be discontinued in a lot of places.
how do I get hold of one??

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Re: Rinse bar brushes New
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2017, 09:07:21 pm »
Get the spray bars and the Jack brushes from bisselldirect.co.uk  (look under spares heading about 4 or 5 pages in), there is a waiting time for them to be in but not long  :)

paul alan

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Re: Rinse bar brushes
« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2017, 09:17:37 pm »
thanks!