[Marc Stock]

Some interesting comments.

20k Total advertising budget is about what I thought Lee. And im sure you'd agree compaired to other businesses thats a small budget. And if you had 20k sitting in your business account, it is just that a tool to grow.

Many of us look at Lee and put him in the category of a large growing window cleaning business, in reality even if he was turning over £ 2 million a year he'd be still classified as a small business.

Many of us are what's called Micro-Entities

[Plankton]

I would have thought that many of us are sole traders with a small number filing under a micro entity?

[Marc Stock]

I would have thought that many of us are sole traders with a small number filing under a micro entity?

Yes that's what I meant.

Sorry watching a-team on 5

[Stoots]

I think a lot of people still look at money the wrong way. It's not something to accumulate and cling onto for dear life. I think that's what differentiates average people from those who are super successfully financially

It's a tool, use it your advantage.

Think about it, if you have 20k sitting in your bank it's doing next to nothing. Interest rates are so low it would take a lifetime to grow it. So you have 20k in the bank so what? What use is it? You aren't going to spend it you are too scared to let it go. All you will do is keep it forever at which point you will either blow it on retirement or pay for your healthcare when you have a stroke.

Invest that 20k and you could double it in a few years.

I spent 6k this year on advertising, I increased by yearly revenue by at least 10k  AND I reduced by tax bill hugely. Why give tax to the government, how daft, stck that money back in and back in and back in for a few years then pull the plug and never have to work again.

Better still knock on a few doors increase your yearly revenue and still have your 6k, spending a pound just to stop the government from getting 28p of it is like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Your missing the point. Spending the money for the sole reason to pay no tax is daft, that's not what I'm saying, it's merely an added  bonus of investing.


Let the money do the work,  why knock on doors, just make money and pay someone to knock and someone else to clean, rinse and repeat as long as you want.

It's not a mindset for everyone, that's why I said people look at money the wrong way, youve just proved my point by trying  to cling onto it and do the work yourself.

[jk999]

Only advertising I have ever done is signing my van best £450 I have ever spent

[Og]

Do a bit of everything.

[Dry Clean]

I think a lot of people still look at money the wrong way. It's not something to accumulate and cling onto for dear life. I think that's what differentiates average people from those who are super successfully financially

It's a tool, use it your advantage.

Think about it, if you have 20k sitting in your bank it's doing next to nothing. Interest rates are so low it would take a lifetime to grow it. So you have 20k in the bank so what? What use is it? You aren't going to spend it you are too scared to let it go. All you will do is keep it forever at which point you will either blow it on retirement or pay for your healthcare when you have a stroke.

Invest that 20k and you could double it in a few years.

I spent 6k this year on advertising, I increased by yearly revenue by at least 10k  AND I reduced by tax bill hugely. Why give tax to the government, how daft, stck that money back in and back in and back in for a few years then pull the plug and never have to work again.

Better still knock on a few doors increase your yearly revenue and still have your 6k, spending a pound just to stop the government from getting 28p of it is like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Your missing the point. Spending the money for the sole reason to pay no tax is daft, that's not what I'm saying, it's merely an added  bonus of investing.


Let the money do the work,  why knock on doors, just make money and pay someone to knock and someone else to clean, rinse and repeat as long as you want.

It's not a mindset for everyone, that's why I said people look at money the wrong way, youve just proved my point by trying  to cling onto it and do the work yourself.

LOL, not trying to be rude but your business talk makes you sound foolish, there's not a self employed shiner on here who hasn't
spent/invested their money and who isn't constantly spending/investing their money to keep their business going.
For somebody like Lee investing in  advertising will be money he needs to spend for a self employed shiner with time on their hands hanging onto the money and doing the footwork could be the better option.

[Stoots]

I think a lot of people still look at money the wrong way. It's not something to accumulate and cling onto for dear life. I think that's what differentiates average people from those who are super successfully financially

It's a tool, use it your advantage.

Think about it, if you have 20k sitting in your bank it's doing next to nothing. Interest rates are so low it would take a lifetime to grow it. So you have 20k in the bank so what? What use is it? You aren't going to spend it you are too scared to let it go. All you will do is keep it forever at which point you will either blow it on retirement or pay for your healthcare when you have a stroke.

Invest that 20k and you could double it in a few years.

I spent 6k this year on advertising, I increased by yearly revenue by at least 10k  AND I reduced by tax bill hugely. Why give tax to the government, how daft, stck that money back in and back in and back in for a few years then pull the plug and never have to work again.

Better still knock on a few doors increase your yearly revenue and still have your 6k, spending a pound just to stop the government from getting 28p of it is like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Your missing the point. Spending the money for the sole reason to pay no tax is daft, that's not what I'm saying, it's merely an added  bonus of investing.


Let the money do the work,  why knock on doors, just make money and pay someone to knock and someone else to clean, rinse and repeat as long as you want.

It's not a mindset for everyone, that's why I said people look at money the wrong way, youve just proved my point by trying  to cling onto it and do the work yourself.

LOL, not trying to be rude but your business talk makes you sound foolish, there's not a self employed shiner on here who hasn't
spent/invested their money and who isn't constantly spending/investing their money to keep their business going.
For somebody like Lee investing in  advertising will be money he needs to spend for a self employed shiner with time on their hands hanging onto the money and doing the footwork could be the better option.

Of course if you are a one man band and want to stay a one man band doing it yourself makes more sense, but that's not what I'm talking about, I'm on about investing to grow a business.

No worries, I dont take offence, we are obviously on a different page, you either see it or your don't, everyone can do as they like.

[V_Purcell]

I spent 18k on tv this year.

When I do leaflets I buy 300k from the printer at a cost of £6k then we usually deliver 100k at a time, that usually costs £8-£10k depending on where I want them to go.

Hi Lee what would you recon the results are from a 1000 leaflets.?

For quantities that you are doing you could try Harliquin printing  http://www.harlequinprintgroup.co.uk/products/printing or
www.goleaflets.com I have used Harlequin I found the to be cost effect for orders over 100’000

[Lee Pryor]

I spent 18k on tv this year.

When I do leaflets I buy 300k from the printer at a cost of £6k then we usually deliver 100k at a time, that usually costs £8-£10k depending on where I want them to go.

Hi Lee what would you recon the results are from a 1000 leaflets.?

For quantities that you are doing you could try Harliquin printing  http://www.harlequinprintgroup.co.uk/products/printing or
www.goleaflets.com I have used Harlequin I found the to be cost effect for orders over 100’000
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Not many. Between 1 and 5.

Ah thanks. My printer has never been beaten on price. Our leaflet is actually a large A3 brochure which is why they are expensive. I also have a very good business relationship with them.

If you want a result from leaflets have no less than 10k delivered, use a company that gps tracks their delivery staff, only deliver April-Aug. Beyond that you need to look at your design of leaflet and the area they are going to.

[֍Winp®oClean֍]

You work for the money, end of. It's not about how much money you make but how much of that money you get to keep. I would estimate that about 1% of members here actually achieve or even follow through with what they publicly spout. 

Personally I would never invest 20k into window cleaning of any kind.