[Slacky]

Chemical imbalances in the brain, Daz?
You can't tell your brain what to do, mate. It tells you and some are not fair.

most people dont need medication though.its rubbish.these companies are making millions out of other peoples misery.

Just remember you’re not a doctor. Heard that somewhere before? People die from listening to that $hit.

From another angle - so other people have misery (you’ve implied that) yet you suggest they shouldn’t resort to medication if that option helps them. Exercise may have helped you but it doesn’t mean that is the only option.

[Slacky]

Sounds like you need a holiday, chillax Mr Dazmond 

[Marc Stock]

I found that my medication gave me the ability to reboot my mind.

I didn't feel "Depressed" or sad with things in my life. Many people associate depression with feeling down with things all the time.  In fact I had quite the opposite, a roof over my head, a great and long suffering new wife, two children, no debt, in essence a good outcome from what was a difficult time.

The problem was the feeling of being broken inside was the very thing making me broken. So that feeling of a heavy heart, and a broken mind would go round in circles and was self perpetuating for no real reason. I'd have violent thoughts with it too which worried me.

The medication dulled that and enabled me to learn how to 'forget' that mindset and almost give my brain the ability to jump outside that circle.

I did some extensive armchair research on how SSRI mechanisms work. Basicly the ion channels in a unknown part of my brain were simply not firing correctly and the less they fire the less they work and it's a loop.

So the medication stimulated that and that enabled that part of the brain fire again and keep firing until it fires on its own again.

I knew that it was time to come off them as my issues had disappeared for about 10months and id been on them 6 or so years so it took a long time. When I started to feel like a zombie I knew the drugs had done their job and it was time to come off them.

[dazmond]

Sounds like you need a holiday, chillax Mr Dazmond 

just got back yesterday matt.awesome hotel and people.snorkeling was fun too but really wanted to go to luxor but the reps said dont go as the drive there is too dangerous.

the country is really struggling at the moment and theresa may is not allowing british planes to fly to sharm even though the airport has passed stringent security tests.its not fair on the egyptian people.

[dazmond]

it d be interesting to see how many people suffer so called "mental health problems" in countries with high levels of people with faith(whether its practising  muslims,hindus,catholics etc).i bet there is a lot less and most of them are very poor materially.

[Slacky]

Sounds like you need a holiday, chillax Mr Dazmond 

just got back yesterday matt.awesome hotel and people.snorkeling was fun too but really wanted to go to luxor but the reps said dont go as the drive there is too dangerous.

the country is really struggling at the moment and theresa may is not allowing british planes to fly to sharm even though the airport has passed stringent security tests.its not fair on the egyptian people.

I’m in El Gouna at the moment Daz. Off out in 3 mins, off out to a reef. I hope Manchester is wet 🤣🤣

[Slacky]

Sounds like you need a holiday, chillax Mr Dazmond 

just got back yesterday matt.awesome hotel and people.snorkeling was fun too but really wanted to go to luxor but the reps said dont go as the drive there is too dangerous.

the country is really struggling at the moment and theresa may is not allowing british planes to fly to sharm even though the airport has passed stringent security tests.its not fair on the egyptian people.

Luxor is a 4 hour drive from Hurghada, nothing but desert. You can do it, but it’s ina convoy. It’s an armed convoy,  it’s all well and good being armed but the fellas with the weapons need something between their ears. I did it once, but wouldn’t in the current situation.

Luxor is great. I’d fly there, do a week perhaps. A week is enough though.

[G Griffin]

Chemical imbalances in the brain, Daz?
You can't tell your brain what to do, mate. It tells you and some are not fair.

Of course you can tell your brain what to do - a positive mind gives you a positive life. Think positive ALL the time and you’ll see the change it does for you. Life’s too short to be walking around thinking life’s poop , the jobs boring , this is poop that’s poop - if you tell your brain that everything is poop.. then it will be

What part of your body tells your brain what to do?  You can't control your thoughts. You can influence them but you have no control over what enters your head. If you could people could just make themselves cleverer.
Some people can't just get over it if their brains are giving out negative thoughts. The same way that people that can't walk can't just tell their legs to start moving.

Keep posting, Marc; it's very interesting.

[Missing Link]

Chemical imbalances in the brain, Daz?
You can't tell your brain what to do, mate. It tells you and some are not fair.

Of course you can tell your brain what to do - a positive mind gives you a positive life. Think positive ALL the time and you’ll see the change it does for you. Life’s too short to be walking around thinking life’s poop , the jobs boring , this is poop that’s poop - if you tell your brain that everything is poop.. then it will be

An 'attitude of gratitude' eh?

I agree, but sometimes I have a lazy mind and forget.  It's impossible (for me) to think positively 'all the time'. 

I meet runners who're OTT about running "isn't this wonderful" they say at the top of some windswept mountain when the rain is lashing down sideways.  And my mind says "No, I'm hurting and it's flipping freezing!"

Now and again I have the ability to remind myself that all of my problems are first world, high-class problems, and even if I get cancer tomorrow, we have a national health service.

In some places in the world, if you haven't got the cash, you just die, often in pain.

Everyone of us, who has the ability to read this post on the interweb is incredibly lucky.  We have eyes that can see, and enough wealth to have a roof over our swedes, a computer, and an interweb connection.

But for some reason we don't feel incredibly lucky.

We're just spoilt really. 

[Missing Link]

most people dont need medication though.its rubbish.these companies are making millions out of other peoples misery.

The average GP consultation time is 10 minutes.  GPs haven't got a magic wand.  If you come in sounding depressed there's a good chance that after a brief consultation you'll leave with a prescription for anti-depressants.

The GP could suggest alternatives, like exercise, group therapy, mindfulness meditation (which is taught by the NHS) and probably some other stuff, but the compliance rates wouldn't be great.  I'm guessing it's not easy to exercise when you're in the pits of depression, or meet up with strangers for group therapy or meditation.

So the prescription is probably not a bad thing.

But I reckon that 'shut me up tablets' shouldn't be seen as 'the solution', but more of an aid to help you find a better - non-chemical - solution.

[G Griffin]

And most GP's are not experts on depression.
If you went to see your GP with a suspected cancer you'd be referred to a specialist.
Go with depression and you'll leave with a prescription for some tablets.
In some cases depression is more dangerous than cancer.

[Dry Clean]

And most GP's are not experts on depression.
If you went to see your GP with a suspected cancer you'd be referred to a specialist.
Go with depression and you'll leave with a prescription for some tablets.
In some cases depression is more dangerous than cancer.

Sometimes the GP doesn't have the luxury of time when it comes to mental illness as the main concern will be the risk of suicide/
self harm, you will only be instantly medicated if the GP thinks that risk is high which will then be followed by some sort of referral.
Even if you where to see a specialist and not a GP you would probably end up with a similar outcome on your first visit.

[dazmond]

Sounds like you need a holiday, chillax Mr Dazmond 

just got back yesterday matt.awesome hotel and people.snorkeling was fun too but really wanted to go to luxor but the reps said dont go as the drive there is too dangerous.

the country is really struggling at the moment and theresa may is not allowing british planes to fly to sharm even though the airport has passed stringent security tests.its not fair on the egyptian people.

I’m in El Gouna at the moment Daz. Off out in 3 mins, off out to a reef. I hope Manchester is wet 🤣🤣

i hope you dont come back with a dodgy stomach matt or "pharaohs revenge" as its called over there.ive been bad since i got back on sat and thats with washing my hands more than normal and only drinking/cleaning my teeth with bottled water while i was there.

[Slacky]

I poop the bed two nights ago. 

[p1w1]

Sounds like you need a holiday, chillax Mr Dazmond 

just got back yesterday matt.awesome hotel and people.snorkeling was fun too but really wanted to go to luxor but the reps said dont go as the drive there is too dangerous.

the country is really struggling at the moment and theresa may is not allowing british planes to fly to sharm even though the airport has passed stringent security tests.its not fair on the egyptian people.

I’m in El Gouna at the moment Daz. Off out in 3 mins, off out to a reef. I hope Manchester is wet 🤣🤣

i hope you dont come back with a dodgy stomach matt or "pharaohs revenge" as its called over there.ive been bad since i got back on sat and thats with washing my hands more than normal and only drinking/cleaning my teeth with bottled water while i was there.

Perhaps some medication may be in order to treat it.

[Slacky]

He probably just needs 24 hours of Imodium.

[dazmond]

He probably just needs 24 hours of Imodium.

yep.(the tesco generic equivalent as its cheaper).took 5 tablets on sat.was fine yesterday then off again this morning with stomach cramps and the runs so took another.good job im not at work til tomorrow.i was ill last tuesday while i was there too matt although it wasnt as bad.ive never been ill when on holiday before.