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Marc Stock

Re: I AM OFF THE......
« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2017, 10:52:48 am »
Bad time of year for it with the darkness approaching! Did you cut it down for a couple of weeks or just stop.

I cut it down over a period of 6 months.

Been on 20mg for about 6 or 7 years. Was difficult to start with. You get these Brain Zaps which isn't nice...

And your moods become unstable. But honestly being on them I became a zombie I didn't feel depressed nor happy; I wasn't bothered and ended up just kinda existing in a black and white state of nullness.

Since coming off them I have been more interested in my health, my physical fitness , I took my CBT and got a motorbike..doing my Direct Access next year I'm happier with my kids and wife I'm finding more time for them and getting enjoyment from life again.

Do I get down feelings....yes a little mostly when I'm at work..i think.window cleaning causes depression especially if you work on your own like I do..

Some changes are being made next year,.extra van and the wife and I are employing someone so we can spend more time together

Slacky

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Re: I AM OFF THE......
« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2017, 11:01:30 am »
Brain zaps are atrocious. I get them if I miss a dose by an hour or two.

Marc Stock

Re: I AM OFF THE......
« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2017, 11:03:22 am »
Brain zaps are atrocious. I get them if I miss a dose by an hour or two.

Dude I sympathise..what dose are you on?

Slacky

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Re: I AM OFF THE......
« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2017, 11:08:57 am »
Mark, Window Cleaning can be depressing. It’s lonely work. Repetitive. It’s not conducive for those prone to depression. I’ve started using Audible the last month. It’s made a world of difference to my mentality whilst at work.

Slacky

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Re: I AM OFF THE......
« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2017, 11:09:58 am »
Brain zaps are atrocious. I get them if I miss a dose by an hour or two.

Dude I sympathise..what dose are you on?

I’m not on citalopram, but Venlafaxine. It’s just another SSRI so has similar side effects. 40mg.

G Griffin

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Re: I AM OFF THE......
« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2017, 11:31:51 am »
Interesting  thread this.
Seriously; thanks for sharing.
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AuRavelling79

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Re: I AM OFF THE......
« Reply #26 on: September 30, 2017, 08:12:48 pm »
Interesting  thread this.
Seriously; thanks for sharing.

Indeed! Personally I find window cleaning is good for my mental health. Especially self-employed window cleaning. Never had a job so stress free in my life!
It's a game of three halves!

paul alan

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Re: I AM OFF THE......
« Reply #27 on: September 30, 2017, 09:20:29 pm »
Interesting  thread this.
Seriously; thanks for sharing.

Indeed! Personally I find window cleaning is good for my mental health. Especially self-employed window cleaning. Never had a job so stress free in my life!
It works for me as I'm the type that doesn't like to stay in one place for very long, I also have no problem with my own company when the wife doesn't come to work.

I used to get anxiety when working in one place for 8-12 hours, the days were like being imprisoned.

Window cleaning has been an easy run....till lately!

I wanted more work....then I got it....be careful what you wish for.

 Its not so simple anymore and at times it can be a little overwhelming, I'm going to bed of a night thinking about what I've got on tomorrow and waking in the morning the same, not good.

It's just a period of adjustment I'm going through but I worry about the future because I'm the type that always wants more, I'm also the type to make things happen...oh god!

Shrek

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Re: I AM OFF THE......
« Reply #28 on: September 30, 2017, 09:30:55 pm »
Interesting  thread this.
Seriously; thanks for sharing.

Indeed! Personally I find window cleaning is good for my mental health. Especially self-employed window cleaning. Never had a job so stress free in my life!
It works for me as I'm the type that doesn't like to stay in one place for very long, I also have no problem with my own company when the wife doesn't come to work.

I used to get anxiety when working in one place for 8-12 hours, the days were like being imprisoned.

Window cleaning has been an easy run....till lately!

I wanted more work....then I got it....be careful what you wish for.

 Its not so simple anymore and at times it can be a little overwhelming, I'm going to bed of a night thinking about what I've got on tomorrow and waking in the morning the same, not good.

It's just a period of adjustment I'm going through but I worry about the future because I'm the type that always wants more, I'm also the type to make things happen...oh god!

I'm exactly the same kind of person, always wanting more.... I used to really enjoy the job when I could count on one hand how many customers I had. I do still enjoy it , but it can get on top of you a bit (and I work on my own) . When I get what I want , I'm not usually satisfied and just keep going- the joys of being a business owner

paul alan

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Re: I AM OFF THE......
« Reply #29 on: September 30, 2017, 09:36:13 pm »
Interesting  thread this.
Seriously; thanks for sharing.

Indeed! Personally I find window cleaning is good for my mental health. Especially self-employed window cleaning. Never had a job so stress free in my life!
It works for me as I'm the type that doesn't like to stay in one place for very long, I also have no problem with my own company when the wife doesn't come to work.

I used to get anxiety when working in one place for 8-12 hours, the days were like being imprisoned.

Window cleaning has been an easy run....till lately!

I wanted more work....then I got it....be careful what you wish for.

 Its not so simple anymore and at times it can be a little overwhelming, I'm going to bed of a night thinking about what I've got on tomorrow and waking in the morning the same, not good.

It's just a period of adjustment I'm going through but I worry about the future because I'm the type that always wants more, I'm also the type to make things happen...oh god!

I'm exactly the same kind of person, always wanting more.... I used to really enjoy the job when I could count on one hand how many customers I had. I do still enjoy it , but it can get on top of you a bit (and I work on my own) . When I get what I want , I'm not usually satisfied and just keep going- the joys of being a business owner

paul alan

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Re: I AM OFF THE......
« Reply #30 on: September 30, 2017, 09:36:59 pm »
we are self made! but what are we making ourselves???

G Griffin

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Re: I AM OFF THE......
« Reply #31 on: October 01, 2017, 01:02:08 am »
Interesting  thread this.
Seriously; thanks for sharing.

Indeed! Personally I find window cleaning is good for my mental health. Especially self-employed window cleaning. Never had a job so stress free in my life!
Fair point but I suppose it depends on where you are starting from mentally.
But I agree with you, personally. Sometimes I'll go out and do one job or an hour's work for mental rather than financial reasons.
My family and I will never starve but I feel better if I do something, however little it is.
I've surprised myself with how many 'can't be bothered' days and scheduled days off have turned into half or even full days of work.
Small steps can take you a long way.
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Slacky

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Re: I AM OFF THE......
« Reply #32 on: October 01, 2017, 09:36:48 am »
Nice one Mr Griff.

Suit up, boot up, turn up.

Plankton

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« Reply #33 on: October 01, 2017, 09:38:54 am »
Working out side had it's benefits, your body needs sunlight etc and sitting in an office or on your couch you won't get any. Saying that you won't get much when covered in water proofs! But working in the rain can be like a pig in poop.
Office workers  can't wait for Saturday to come were as I'll be eager to get out clearing gutters, it's like a day to myself were I listen to the match build up and the scores coming in. Doesn't seem like I've been working at all but I've been productive outside and I have a few quid in my pocket (or card reader).
Day off on Sunday then it's back to getting the kids to eat there breakfast and off to school on time, now that can be a whole lot of stress!

G Griffin

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« Reply #34 on: October 01, 2017, 01:23:19 pm »
Working out side had it's benefits, your body needs sunlight etc and sitting in an office or on your couch you won't get any. Saying that you won't get much when covered in water proofs! But working in the rain can be like a pig in poop.
Office workers  can't wait for Saturday to come were as I'll be eager to get out clearing gutters, it's like a day to myself were I listen to the match build up and the scores coming in. Doesn't seem like I've been working at all but I've been productive outside and I have a few quid in my pocket (or card reader).
Day off on Sunday then it's back to getting the kids to eat there breakfast and off to school on time, now that can be a whole lot of stress!
Good post and quite similar to my situation.
Except Sundays is parents' day and that's where I'm going now, eyes roll. 
"Once more unto the breach , dear friends, once more......"
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dazmond

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Re: I AM OFF THE......
« Reply #35 on: October 08, 2017, 09:45:07 am »
Interesting  thread this.
Seriously; thanks for sharing.

Indeed! Personally I find window cleaning is good for my mental health. Especially self-employed window cleaning. Never had a job so stress free in my life!

i agree.i dont see anything depressing in being out in the fresh air window cleaning and earning good money at all.i usually get a few cups of coffee made for me too which breaks the day up a bit.if anything my mental health can take a bit of a nosedive if im not working sometimes esp if im just drifting through the day with no plans.i wouldnt resort to medication though.sod that.
price higher/work harder!

G Griffin

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Re: I AM OFF THE......
« Reply #36 on: October 08, 2017, 10:01:32 am »
Chemical imbalances in the brain, Daz?
You can't tell your brain what to do, mate. It tells you and some are not fair.
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dazmond

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Re: I AM OFF THE......
« Reply #37 on: October 08, 2017, 10:10:17 am »
Chemical imbalances in the brain, Daz?
You can't tell your brain what to do, mate. It tells you and some are not fair.

most people dont need medication though.its rubbish.these companies are making millions out of other peoples misery.
price higher/work harder!

Shrek

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Re: I AM OFF THE......
« Reply #38 on: October 08, 2017, 10:25:35 am »
Chemical imbalances in the brain, Daz?
You can't tell your brain what to do, mate. It tells you and some are not fair.

Of course you can tell your brain what to do - a positive mind gives you a positive life. Think positive ALL the time and you’ll see the change it does for you. Life’s too short to be walking around thinking life’s poop , the jobs boring , this is poop that’s poop - if you tell your brain that everything is poop.. then it will be

Slacky

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Re: I AM OFF THE......
« Reply #39 on: October 08, 2017, 10:46:22 am »
Interesting  thread this.
Seriously; thanks for sharing.

Indeed! Personally I find window cleaning is good for my mental health. Especially self-employed window cleaning. Never had a job so stress free in my life!

i agree.i dont see anything depressing in being out in the fresh air window cleaning and earning good money at all.i usually get a few cups of coffee made for me too which breaks the day up a bit.if anything my mental health can take a bit of a nosedive if im not working sometimes esp if im just drifting through the day with no plans.i wouldnt resort to medication though.sod that.

You would if you needed to. You resorted to alcohol to deal with your ‘stuff’, and that was killing you as well.