[jo5hm4n]

Full Review of using WPS Generation for Canvassing.

I want to be as detailed as possible because for those who are maybe unsure or using a canvasser or don't know what to expect i think it's important to be detailed listing the good and the bad points and what to realistically expect.

I Booked WPS Generation for £1,000 worth of monthly work which cost me £3,000 total.  You pay for x 3 cleans.

These are my results.

They Canvassed me £1104.  Over generated £100 of work.  Most of the work was monthly with a few bi monthly.
Some of the customers didn't want their windows cleaning straight away.  Some said start next month, some said start January.  So that obviously affects the monthly figures straight away.  Also some of the customers decided after the first clean to go onto Bi Monthly so this affects the monthly values too, but the custom is still there.

75 customers Canvassed in total.  Of which about 8 where underpriced between £2-5 with one customer being underpriced by £10.  There were around 5 customers though that were overpriced by atleast £2-£3.  So prices generally where really good apart from the odd 1 or 2.  All customers where told by myself that they were slightly underpriced and apart from 2 customers all accepted the new increased price.

1st Month/Clean - We cleaned £807
2nd Month/Clean - We cleaned £689 (week before xmas wasn't really the best idea)
3rd Month/Clean - We cleaned £775 - Also from this we gained £400 of addons we did this month.  Total this month was £1175
                                  Total Cleaned after 3 Months/cleans = £2,271 - Inc Addons = £2,671

After 3 Months/Cleans here are the dropouts.
Cancelled before we got chance to do the 1st clean - £230
Cancelled after the 1st clean - £37
Cancelled after the 2nd clean - £56
Cancelled after the 3rd clean - £13
Total Cancelled - £336

Ofcourse you get new customers from walkups seeing you work.  So far picked up 6 Customers totalling £95 monthly and just done a few more quotes too yesterday all whilst doing this canvassed work.

My Personal Review

It cost us £3000, and after 3rd Clean/Month we have done £2,671.  By the 4th clean i will have made my investment back on what it cost me.  By the 5th clean, i will be in profit for the fuel/wages it cost me to get my workers to help me with this new work.

Basically though for a one man band operation you will be back in profit by the 3rd if not the 4th clean.   That's a Return On Investment of 25-30% per month, which to me is excellent.  I have run several other businesses before and most of which if i made an investment into the business on average it would take 6-12 months to get my investment back and sometimes longer at that.  I am currently investing into another non related business and my return on investment is 5% per month and i'm still happy with that as it's a passive income business.

If you can't Canvas, don't want to canvas or like me (current health issues) cant canvas, then i would highly recommend this service 100%.  I have canvassed myself over the years, so for me this was about trying something different and seeing how good the results would be.  Ofcourse nobody is ever going to be as selective or thorough as you are when canvassing because they dont know exactly the way you run your business, only you do.  But that being said, i am very happy and impressed with using WPS Generation for canvassing.

I physically can't canvas at the moment and likely for some time, so this is essential for me if i want to grow my business.  That being said even if you can canvas, i would still recommend this service to those who can afford to grow your business by investing money into it rather than time.

The 1st Cleans were a ball ache, we did £800+ in just over a 7 day span, lots of hard work at the time, but hoping that it will be worth it and pays off when you are left with good solid customers after 3-6 months/cleans in.

This review i wanted to be honest and realistic.  I couldn't find much helpful information anywhere online when considering using canvassers for about a year or so.  I think the pros and cons should always be listed.  Aside from the Cancellations and customers underpriced, the only other problems we had was that some of the customers thought the service was 5 weekly instead of it being 4 weekly and ofcourse some of the customers were messers and you know the ones when before you even get out to clean you can tell theres a good chance they could be a messer.  Well we had a few of those aswell, but not lots.

Just like when you canvas yourself, you always get atleast a few nutters or messers every now and then, you can't really expect any less getting someone else to canvas can you?

WPS Generation replaces any customers that cancel before you get 3 cleans aslong as it's a genuine cancellation, and not because you did a bad job or anything.

I have booked Yan @ WPS in again for some more canvassing in the next few months and they are going to replace me the work lost.  So in theory i will have made my investment back + be getting more customers canvassed for free in a few months.

So for me going forward if everything goes to plan i will be using Yan and his excellent team in the future.

If anyone has any questions feel free to ask, happy to help anyone considering using a canvasser.

Cheers
Josh

[WPS GENERATION]

Hi Josh

Thankyou for taking the time to write this review.

I must add that this generation was done under our old product.

We now have canvass +.

CANVASS + is our new way of doing things and cuts down the messers as you say by another 5-6%

Again thank you for your review and we look forward to working with you again in the near future

Kind regards

Yan Whittaker

Www.wpsgeneration.co.uk

[Stoots]

So you were given 1100 and cleaned 800 ish the first time.

I take it the 300 were cancels?

Sounds about right to me with canvassed work.

It does pay off in the end just takes 4/5 cleans.

[jo5hm4n]

So you were given 1100 and cleaned 800 ish the first time.

I take it the 300 were cancels?

Sounds about right to me with canvassed work.

It does pay off in the end just takes 4/5 cleans.

I cleaned £800 ish because some said they didnt want to start until the following month and a few said start january etc.  So that brought numbers down on first clean by atleast £100-£150.  Some even said they had window cleaner but he was rubbish so had to bin him off first etc..

Yeah its hard work at the time, but too be honest after 3/4 cleans and getting rid of some of the messers you know where your at and your left with profit and a good round to work with.  So happy i decided to try this.  Would of taken me so long to canvas £1100 rather just save time and use money to invest instead.  Works better for me.  When i used to canvas i would average £10-£20 per hour in new customers.  So for me thats like 50-100 hours of canvassing, and unless your doing like 20 hours a week canvassing minimum then its going too take you ages to get those kind of results.  Would for me atleast anyway.

[jo5hm4n]

Hi Josh

Thankyou for taking the time to write this review.

I must add that this generation was done under our old product.

We now have canvass +.

CANVASS + is our new way of doing things and cuts down the messers as you say by another 5-6%

Again thank you for your review and we look forward to working with you again in the near future

Kind regards

Yan Whittaker

Www.wpsgeneration.co.uk

Hi Yan,

Yes have got you booked in for the Canvas + looking forward to seeing how the results differ with your new service.

Either way you guys do a good job, be helpful if more left reviews i think.

Cheers

[p1w1]

I wonder if you would have gotten less messers if they are informed their only option of payment was direct debit. On the flip side you may have not of got as many customers in the first place.
 Also does the canvassing company expect you to take all types of payment?
I tell new customers now its either bacs or dd with dd being pushed first, i find the ones who are prepared to pay by dd are more genuine customers who are looking for a long term cleaner .

[Susan Dean (1stclean)]

we too have just had yan and his team hear i.e. 3 days ago ......

we haven't cleaned any of the work yet but as for there conduct up too now its been very good , they always get back to you when you email them or ring them ect ect

,i found both yan and harry good to talk to on the phone ,  one of there  canvassers   a guy called luke was a diamond of  guy  i never met this man but had  him  on the phone about three times double checking stuff which i liked

i also found that he knew what he was talking which made me feel  happier knowing that it was not just  salesman knocking on the doors

i  will update this after we have cleaned the work , we also have had him pencil us in for a anther visit in three months  time 

[Mick Kent]

I dont see how paying x3 for canvassed work is a good investment, we all know that after 6 months only 50 percent will retain as canvassers sign up any old work no matter how great they make out they are!.

Simply put an add up in a shop window or gumtree and pay someone £10 per retained customer or better still if your short of work canvass yourself or with a friend or family member!

When i used to canvass i charged x2 and though everyone i canvassed for were simple people who i could dictate to what and how id get there customers..at least have savvy and only ask for detached houses and ones with full access or you will end up with loads of front only cleans that are charged the full whack for the backs too knowing there is 99% of the time no rear access, dictate to the canvasser if you want the cream work.
Will take a canvasser 2 mins at a door to gain a £15 job for which you will hand over £45 for. Save yourself £45 per customer and spend the 2 mins yourself signing them up.. to make it good in the window cleaning game you must be good at talking with the public and selling your own services and not relying on someone else unless its to rapid grow for van 3/4/5 and so on.
Failing that put adds on facebook pages saying this week we are cleaning in x area leave me a message if you want to be added to the round.
If paying a stranger £3000 to gain just £1000 of poor to medium quality work that will slowly dwindle down is a good investment then by all means crack on.
Just putting it out there that there are much better ways to gain quality work.

The best 1 by far is target sold houses in posh upper class areas, canvassers cant do this for you and you can control what houses your adding to your business, quality work

2nd obviously being new builds. A canvasser will always try and hit a new build as are so easy to gain customers.. can gain 10/15 new customers in a few hours. Pay someone else £600 for the 2 hours or save yourself £600 and knock yourself for 2 hours, only problem is a higher dropout rate.

The hardest houses to get are detached and big houses in nice areas..get canvassers to hit these areas if you are going to use them as the retention rate will be close to 100 percent and it will make the canvassers work harder to earn there easy money.