[simon w]

I had two controlers from pure freedom once and no matter how often you charged the batteries after 10 minutes of working the controlers were flashing low voltage "bat"  turned out the problem was with their cheap inadequate wiring between controlers pump and battery.  I had the wiring upgraded professionally and this solved the problem

[P @ F]

At the end of the day the battery is 6 year old , crystal has said its warped too , quite what is warped he didnt say , if its the plates inside its fooked , if its the casing its swollen and fooked , either way its fooked but has done very well to go 6 years.
Im not one to waste money but would rather get a battery before pulling the wiring out for sure .
We are getting into winter so are all going to need to re calibrate and turn up the flow a tad due to the water being thicker and hoses being stiffer , this will drain our batteries more .
Do yourself a favour and get yer wallet out Crystal 

Rich 

[nathankaye]

Haha thought this post is appropriate from another forum.
Ones boast abouting earnings and then how they scrimp on equipment 😂
(Not directed at anyone, just a generalization)

[Don Kee]

Haha thought this post is appropriate from another forum.
Ones boast abouting earnings and then how they scrimp on equipment 😂
(Not directed at anyone, just a generalization)

I think it is directed at someone, as if it was just a generalisation then it wouldn't be 'appropriate' now would it?

[P @ F]

Wish i earned 60k a year , thats my house on the left 

[Crystal-clear]

I meant swollen mate it's very swollen
So I took it out today and it was working kinda okay on one system once I tuned on the other system it didn't like it and   Generally after that the pressure was pretty low from the pump I have to turn it off quite a lot 
 I think everyone is right the battery has seen better days   Don't worry funny 60k photo there  lol
 And yes I am pretty tight   Time to dig deep I'll take note of the wiring but at this stage testing it all with new battery will be a start it seem it's able to last with the one system amaZingly
Also the charging rate when battery is fooked charges fast when it was new it used to take hours to charge it's a sign that it's done
Ps my charger is a good one smart but maybe 13 years old was around £100
To be continue thx all!

[Crystal-clear]

I meant swollen mate it's very swollen
So I took it out today and it was working kinda okay on one system once I tuned on the other system it didn't like it and   Generally after that the pressure was pretty low from the pump I have to turn it off quite a lot 
 I think everyone is right the battery has seen better days   Don't worry funny 60k photo there  lol
 And yes I am pretty tight   Time to dig deep I'll take note of the wiring but at this stage testing it all with new battery will be a start it seem it's able to last with the one system amaZingly
Also the charging rate when battery is fooked charges fast when it was new it used to take hours to charge it's a sign that it's done
Ps my charger is a good one smart but maybe 13 years old was around £100
To be continue thx all!

[P @ F]

I reckon if it is that swollen then you have a massive build up of the sulphate stuff , this has buckled up the plates and forced them out swelling the battery , you have probably been charging close to minimum since day one with the SCR .
If you do buy new battery it would be a good idea to make the connections quick release giving you the option to remove and bench charge 1 or 2 times a week , it will keep the battery well maintained .
Either that or dont whinge in about 6 years time.   

[Crystal-clear]

I reckon if it is that swollen then you have a massive build up of the sulphate stuff , this has buckled up the plates and forced them out swelling the battery , you have probably been charging close to minimum since day one with the SCR .
If you do buy new battery it would be a good idea to make the connections quick release giving you the option to remove and bench charge 1 or 2 times a week , it will keep the battery well maintained .
Either that or dont whinge in about 6 years time.   

haha yeah its 6 years end of the day
so i can collect this http://www.halfords.com/camping-leisure/caravan-motorhomes/electrical-power/halfords-leisure-battery-115-ah
£99 a whooping 115 AH or the same guys that sold me the numax 100 ah selling now a numax 110 ah for £90 a tenners a tenner but 5 ah more and i need the extra power for Wednesday as i have a 2 man day set for then the numax will be posted so cant risk

what u think about the halfords one cant be bad ? has 2 years with it also

[Spruce]

I reckon if it is that swollen then you have a massive build up of the sulphate stuff , this has buckled up the plates and forced them out swelling the battery , you have probably been charging close to minimum since day one with the SCR .
If you do buy new battery it would be a good idea to make the connections quick release giving you the option to remove and bench charge 1 or 2 times a week , it will keep the battery well maintained .
Either that or dont whinge in about 6 years time.   

haha yeah its 6 years end of the day
so i can collect this http://www.halfords.com/camping-leisure/caravan-motorhomes/electrical-power/halfords-leisure-battery-115-ah
£99 a whooping 115 AH or the same guys that sold me the numax 100 ah selling now a numax 110 ah for £90 a tenners a tenner but 5 ah more and i need the extra power for Wednesday as i have a 2 man day set for then the numax will be posted so cant risk

what u think about the halfords one cant be bad ? has 2 years with it also

As we have said numerous times on the forum; you are better going with the Halfords leisure battery as they do seem to be honouring their warranty.
Numax will not give or honour a warranty on a battery used by a window cleaner as they say we destroy them. We have had excellent service from Numax batteries but having a warranty that's worth more than the paper its written on is a good thing.
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[Crystal-clear]

I had two controlers from pure freedom once and no matter how often you charged the batteries after 10 minutes of working the controlers were flashing low voltage "bat"  turned out the problem was with their cheap inadequate wiring between controlers pump and battery.  I had the wiring upgraded professionally and this solved the problem

i think this kind post has some relevance
so i drove down to Halfords around 40 mins ago.. stuck the 115 ah battery in and connected it exactly the same stuff voltage going low 11.9 etc pretty quickly infact the gent tested both batterys and he said altough mine looks like its done its showing as a good battery the voltage was 12.9 or something on mine and said it had 750 amps his which was brand new the 115ah showing less volts 12.3 and 600 amps ...

i really wish i could have plugged it in and seen the difference and paid for it but this wasnt the case this clearly isnt the problem the only fact remains is maybe that new battery requires a bench charge but they come fully charged
im now starting to think and been looking at the connector to the battery its a brass type thing which screws in and all the screws are kinda rusted which is making me want to tomorrow replace those screws Greece them up and see if i get better voltage ?>
what i think has happened is where he has un screwed the connectors and re put in the new several wires it may need a clean up replace screws and make sure its all touching correctly i think over the past 6 years its been touching that one place very tight which now he has re screwed it maybe to the rusted parts of the screw?

im tempted to call up a sparky ill try myself to sort those connectors but honestly ill pay someone if you can solve this riddle i feel its something about the above or those new wires
any ideas
p.s if im still stuck and i cant find help ill have to make the dreaded video  see if someone can spot something

[P @ F]

Umm , oops , maybe we led you in the wrong direction , but then the battery was old , but if you had of mentioned that the terminals were all corroded it may have been different , having said that , whoever fitted the secondary pump /controller must have seen that and chose to ignore it .
Clean up all connections and give that a whirl , look on the bright side , you can now run each system with its own battery , possibly even feed them both off the SCR , ok its cost £99 but its not yet wasted money is it ?
And it might be worth tracking the wire back to alternator and cleaning them connections too .

[AuRavelling79]

Haha thought this post is appropriate from another forum.
Ones boast abouting earnings and then how they scrimp on equipment 😂
(Not directed at anyone, just a generalization)

However the Windie might own other properties and not feel the need to  have one bigger property to live in? 

[Perfect Windows]

I have a twin pump setup in my van.  One controller reads about 0.4v lower than the other.  Why?  It has thinner wires to the battery. Get some 10A wire and connect it well.  Solder the connectors if you can and avoid crimp fittings unless you have a ratchet clamp - the cheap ones are worse than useless. Even with a ratchet clamp you're putting your faith in friction; soldering will be better.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10M-Red-Black-electrical-cable-Car-Home-wire-10A-Meter-32-0-2mm-10-AMP-/280831104585

Vin

[Crystal-clear]

Umm , oops , maybe we led you in the wrong direction , but then the battery was old , but if you had of mentioned that the terminals were all corroded it may have been different , having said that , whoever fitted the secondary pump /controller must have seen that and chose to ignore it .
Clean up all connections and give that a whirl , look on the bright side , you can now run each system with its own battery , possibly even feed them both off the SCR , ok its cost £99 but its not yet wasted money is it ?
And it might be worth tracking the wire back to alternator and cleaning them connections too .

Thx mate yeah this is my next point of call I didn't buy the battery managed to blag the orange jacket man to connect it when I saw it doing exactly the same thing my window cleaner cui senses kicked in
And said it isn't improving my problem holding on to that £99 mate it's very special to me lol
Jokes aside I will get a new bat but
I'm pretty sure I suspect it's something else wanna sort that first
I'm going to hussle a sparky tomorrow morning already found his little add on yell he told me bring it down tomorrow said he'll look at it I told him £20-£40 he seemed happy I already know what he's gonna do solder replace to 10a wiring clean up connections but he'll have a volt meter and check it all and has the experience that I don't and I wanna make sure it's solid for wenesday after seeing a similar problem and with the new halfords battery i hope I can close this off as solved tomorrow I really think it's connections
 I've been doing the job for so many years now I can actually remember this happening 2-3 different times it's just a blur
Hopefully this will be all sorted tomorrow and I can like my life again !
You would have thought the installation guys would have noticed and put it right but I can't be bothered to argue

[Crystal-clear]

I have a twin pump setup in my van.  One controller reads about 0.4v lower than the other.  Why?  It has thinner wires to the battery. Get some 10A wire and connect it well.  Solder the connectors if you can and avoid crimp fittings unless you have a ratchet clamp - the cheap ones are worse than useless. Even with a ratchet clamp you're putting your faith in friction; soldering will be better.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10M-Red-Black-electrical-cable-Car-Home-wire-10A-Meter-32-0-2mm-10-AMP-/280831104585

Vin

Thank you mate wish me luck tomorrow

[windowswashed]

I've changed the battery's time and time again before I was told to check all wiring first and check it properly,I changed fuses once and when I looked they were slightly corroded it made a huge difference for just a couple of quid.

Same for me, good battery, simple 7.5amp fuse corroded, changed it for a new one,  pump worked fine again after replacing fuse, so simple and always overlooked

[Busby]

Yes

[Perfect Windows]

Thank you mate wish me luck tomorrow

Good luck today.

Vin

[Crystal-clear]

Well well Mr Holmes maybe just maybe lol look at the state of it these brass connectors are actually around 10 years old had it upgraded from simple clips back then in my first van (after the mondeo of course)!

So the sparky guy couldn't be arsed so I decided to go myself I placed the connectors directly on the battery and the voltage mainly stayed on 12.2 on the near pump and 12.1 on the new longer distance cable on the far pump
Before hand it was going to 11.8 11.6 even 11.2 or 10. Something
It's blatantly the connections I'm off to selco now to find some new connections some Greece maybe that helps the electric flow we got this guys I can feel it