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Dan marsh

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Re: video cleaning front windows
« Reply #80 on: August 10, 2017, 11:42:41 pm »
Hi nathan  thanks for the vid . I'm brand new to this and I need all the help I can get so much appreciated mate . Thank you

nathankaye

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Re: video cleaning front windows
« Reply #81 on: August 10, 2017, 11:51:42 pm »
Hi nathan  thanks for the vid . I'm brand new to this and I need all the help I can get so much appreciated mate . Thank you

Sorry mate, it was with you in mind that i did the vid. Just bitterly disappointed that the speech volume didnt get picked up. As i was explaining what and why i was doing something a particular way etc. I did think ones may hear the volume if playing the vid on a laptop or tv for instance but i realised when I got home and tried casting it to the TV that it wasnt the case.
(Then all this bickering on here started and im not prepared to remove the vid as if I have done something wrong or the negative views are right and so i have left the vid on.  But once ive sorted the microphone aspect out, i will do another vid with better sound/explanation!!)
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Dry Clean

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Re: video cleaning front windows
« Reply #82 on: August 11, 2017, 12:16:41 am »
Wow !!!! What a thread !  ;D  All because he put up a vid of him cleaning he's getting reamed out , tut tut............


I would say its more to do with the bragging than the video, if you going to put yourself on a pedestal better make sure the
evidence you show supports your brilliance.

Again with the quality rubbish talk.
Look if you wanna come down i will gladly show you around the house that i cleaned on the video or the 15 houses i mentioned on another one. If you find poor quality that you are whining on about which would be blatantly obvious I will do a public video of shame and apologies for trying to be helpful and how you masters are great. If you cant find fault then you do a public video which i will gladly post of you apologising, thats all.
Now does that sound like a good offer


I suppose I may answer as your not going to stop crying until I do. (roll eyes)
If I want to go and watch some splash and dash merchant I could do it closer to home as every town has at least one, just to be clear I didn't invent the term splash and dash as it was knocking around long before I got into this game to describe people like you, you have to wonder how a term like that would even get started if running around like a headless chicken was the right way to do things.

nathankaye

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Re: video cleaning front windows
« Reply #83 on: August 11, 2017, 01:51:06 am »
That doesnt answer anything!!  It just adds vinegar to the wound and trust me, that gets a negative reaction when you do.

Because of losely throwing around terminology and accusations  kinda has that effect on people!!  So the best way to resolve this issue is man to man and hence my challenge to come prove that my work is splash and dash, of poor quality and give evidence of your claim of me running around like an headless chicken is sustainable.   
You and others make such claims on a public forum, accuse me of trying to put myself on a pedestal, that im not a man of my word and that my quality of work is questionable along with my motives!!

So yes i will bite back! My challenge still exists which you are obviously avoiding!! Prove me wrong, prove these accusatons!
Because I would love to be holding the camera filming you as you attempt to look me in the eye and apologize as you wont find outstanding, shockable evidence of poor quality results from such a splash n dash attitude nor evidence of running around like a headless chicken, which  i believe you said.
Afterwards people might enjoy this forum again!! people will be free to offer help and advice to people!!  To post a picture or a video in hope that it can assist someone without fear of belittling people like you and others.
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Dry Clean

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Re: video cleaning front windows
« Reply #84 on: August 11, 2017, 07:24:49 am »
Your challenge is childish and silly, in my opinion your a poor quality cleaner who's advice well meaning or not should be treated with caution, that said I don't care enough to spend a day watching you, timing you, and then inspecting your days work.
Its not personal, my intention as with others on here is not to hurt your feelings,  you should never be afraid to criticise advice if
you believe that advice to be bad and that's all anybody on here has done,  put it this way your more than happy to criticise Vision users and I'm sure you would have plenty to say if one stuck a video on here claiming this and that.

nathankaye

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Re: video cleaning front windows
« Reply #85 on: August 11, 2017, 09:25:06 am »
Your challenge is childish and silly, in my opinion your a poor quality cleaner who's advice well meaning or not should be treated with caution, that said I don't care enough to spend a day watching you, timing you, and then inspecting your days work.
Its not personal, my intention as with others on here is not to hurt your feelings,  you should never be afraid to criticise advice if
you believe that advice to be bad and that's all anybody on here has done,  put it this way your more than happy to criticise Vision users and I'm sure you would have plenty to say if one stuck a video on here claiming this and that.

Mate feelings arent hurt, takes a whole lot more than this to hurt me. However, throwing accusations about every time i make comment on whats achievable is getting tiring and so i wish to end it once and for all.

Yes i have called in question "vision" and its claims and guess what??!  All one needs to do is buy it and try it and conclude the answer themselves.......its quite simple to prove one way or the other.

I dont want you to follow me all day, timing and what not.  Thats not what i said, i challenge you to come and i will show you round the houses that i have cleaned, if my quality sucks then a day after theybshould be easy to spot from a mile off according to your believes. Than in my opinion you owe me an apology which will be filmed and then you make your merry way home.  You dont even have to drive, you can jump on a train and i will pick you up from the main train station.  It can be all done in less than half a day but it will end this tedious debate once and for all. So when i comment it will not be undermined by small minded accusations simply because people like yourself cant do what others claim is do able. So lets prove it.
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Dry Clean

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Re: video cleaning front windows
« Reply #86 on: August 11, 2017, 10:20:46 am »
Your challenge is childish and silly, in my opinion your a poor quality cleaner who's advice well meaning or not should be treated with caution, that said I don't care enough to spend a day watching you, timing you, and then inspecting your days work.
Its not personal, my intention as with others on here is not to hurt your feelings,  you should never be afraid to criticise advice if
you believe that advice to be bad and that's all anybody on here has done,  put it this way your more than happy to criticise Vision users and I'm sure you would have plenty to say if one stuck a video on here claiming this and that.

Mate feelings arent hurt, takes a whole lot more than this to hurt me. However, throwing accusations about every time i make comment on whats achievable is getting tiring and so i wish to end it once and for all.

Yes i have called in question "vision" and its claims and guess what??!  All one needs to do is buy it and try it and conclude the answer themselves.......its quite simple to prove one way or the other.

I dont want you to follow me all day, timing and what not.  Thats not what i said, i challenge you to come and i will show you round the houses that i have cleaned, if my quality sucks then a day after theybshould be easy to spot from a mile off according to your believes. Than in my opinion you owe me an apology which will be filmed and then you make your merry way home.  You dont even have to drive, you can jump on a train and i will pick you up from the main train station.  It can be all done in less than half a day but it will end this tedious debate once and for all. So when i comment it will not be undermined by small minded accusations simply because people like yourself cant do what others claim is do able. So lets prove it.

Get a grip on yourself (roll eyes) showing me 15 cleaned houses doesn't prove that you cleaned them in two and a half hours it wouldn't even prove that it was you who cleaned them.
You owe the forum an apology for continuously  posting nonsense.

Added, the fact you think its just a simple matter of getting a bottle of Vision and using it to prove if it works or not shows how
little you know about this business and why you actually think your a quality cleaner.

nathankaye

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Re: video cleaning front windows
« Reply #87 on: August 11, 2017, 01:28:36 pm »
Your challenge is childish and silly, in my opinion your a poor quality cleaner who's advice well meaning or not should be treated with caution, that said I don't care enough to spend a day watching you, timing you, and then inspecting your days work.
Its not personal, my intention as with others on here is not to hurt your feelings,  you should never be afraid to criticise advice if
you believe that advice to be bad and that's all anybody on here has done,  put it this way your more than happy to criticise Vision users and I'm sure you would have plenty to say if one stuck a video on here claiming this and that.

Mate feelings arent hurt, takes a whole lot more than this to hurt me. However, throwing accusations about every time i make comment on whats achievable is getting tiring and so i wish to end it once and for all.

Yes i have called in question "vision" and its claims and guess what??!  All one needs to do is buy it and try it and conclude the answer themselves.......its quite simple to prove one way or the other.

I dont want you to follow me all day, timing and what not.  Thats not what i said, i challenge you to come and

Get a grip on yourself (roll eyes) showing me 15 cleaned houses doesn't prove that you cleaned them in two and a half hours it wouldn't even prove that it was you who cleaned them.
You owe the forum an apology for continuously  posting nonsense.

Added, the fact you think its just a simple matter of getting a bottle of Vision and using it to prove if it works or not shows how
little you know about this business and why you actually think your a quality cleaner.


Ok, since were going round in circles here i will make this my last comment.

You answer like a politician avoiding the main issue of the point.
Your issue was poor quality work!!  So by showing houses i cleaned day before would show this one way or the other and dont be ridiculous and say it doesnt prove ive cleaned them. For point of being obvious......they will obviously tally with my books which i also date. If this doesnt satisfy i will clean another house infront of you.
But no, now your saying it doesnt prove i cleaned those houses in just over 2 hours!!

Which one is it,.....is it i cant work as fast as what i say or i do i do  bad quality work??  And yes lookingbat my completed work would answer both in the sense that quality isnt affected and if you want prove schedule in your diary for 4wks time and come join me whilst i do them again. Lol it will only take you less than a morning and gou can even waste your time on this forum whilst you watch or have a coffee 😂
Either way it will settle this arguement!!

So let me adjust my thinking,   because im clearly missing something.  If i use a product that claims this or that.......how long must i use it for to see the results of those claims??  Answer is, its irrelevant!!  Because again by one way or another it will work or it wont work.   So please adjust my thinking as to why trying a product doesnt disprove it or should i have stated that it should be used X amount of times on X amount of varient conditions bla bla bla.....but by end of the day it will prove it one way or the other.

Again like a politician, throw the curve ball back saying it shows how little i know about the business......yep lets make this out to be a highly educated qualified business to be in and that a person needs to spend x amount of years to know it well 😂😂😂😂

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chris turner

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Re: video cleaning front windows
« Reply #88 on: August 11, 2017, 01:50:24 pm »
Nathan I think the best thing you can do at this point is close this thread and walk away.
Once seank is on your tail there's no shaking him off lol. Though I do agree with some of his sentiment.
Maybe just keep the future videos to electric hose reels etc.

NWH

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Re: video cleaning front windows
« Reply #89 on: August 11, 2017, 04:34:52 pm »
I actually like watching the videos and I would say the way you clean them is how you more or less should on a regular clean,I'm similar although I wouldn't go back over the sills again like you did but all in all a good quick way to clean.

SB Cleaning

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Re: video cleaning front windows
« Reply #90 on: August 11, 2017, 07:27:45 pm »
I actually like watching the videos and I would say the way you clean them is how you more or less should on a regular clean,I'm similar although I wouldn't go back over the sills again like you did but all in all a good quick way to clean.
splish....splash....give me the cash.
..and dash!!

Bloody cowboys yeeee ha ;D

paul alan

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Re: video cleaning front windows
« Reply #91 on: August 11, 2017, 07:32:39 pm »
I like watching the vids here, its entertaining and informative. Obviously not to everyones taste though.

I think l could clean quicker than that and lm sure theres plenty of other people that could too, even if they wouldnt admit it in this thread as they possibly wouldnt want the stick nathan is getting.

I reckon anyone with an opinion should also post a video to back up what they are saying, for fairness if nothing else.

Im glad you put the video up nathan, granted some of the stuff you say seems questionable but all in all l think the forum needs threads like this or it gets boring sometimes.

I can work faster than that, l can also work slower than that. Horses for courses!

Would be interesting watching if everyone were to put a vid up of themselves, lm sure theres not many that wouldnt watch em.


SB Cleaning

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Re: video cleaning front windows
« Reply #92 on: August 11, 2017, 07:39:00 pm »
After watching this video and reading all the comments its no wonder why i pick up so much work up from bad wfp operators ;D

KS Cleaning

  • Posts: 3955
Re: video cleaning front windows
« Reply #93 on: August 11, 2017, 11:55:14 pm »
I actually like watching the videos and I would say the way you clean them is how you more or less should on a regular clean,I'm similar although I wouldn't go back over the sills again like you did but all in all a good quick way to clean.
splish....splash....give me the cash.
..and dash!!

Bloody cowboys yeeee ha ;D
Or you could say that the real cowboys are the ones who try to turn simple window cleaning into an art form, then charge the unsuspecting customer a fortune for the unnecessary over cleaning of their property .......bandits, I'll tell ya ;D

Dave Anderson

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Re: video cleaning front windows
« Reply #94 on: August 12, 2017, 08:03:23 am »
oooh KS Cleaning there is a new twist on this speed chesnut ;) always 2 sides to a coin....

The more I know the less I know I know ...

Shrek

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Re: video cleaning front windows
« Reply #95 on: August 12, 2017, 08:18:22 am »
I actually like watching the videos and I would say the way you clean them is how you more or less should on a regular clean,I'm similar although I wouldn't go back over the sills again like you did but all in all a good quick way to clean.
splish....splash....give me the cash.
..and dash!!

Bloody cowboys yeeee ha ;D
Or you could say that the real cowboys are the ones who try to turn simple window cleaning into an art form, then charge the unsuspecting customer a fortune for the unnecessary over cleaning of their property .......bandits, I'll tell ya ;D

Or you could say the clever ones do less work for more money  ;)

paul alan

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Re: video cleaning front windows
« Reply #96 on: August 12, 2017, 09:50:03 pm »
I think a cleaners prices reflect his self worth and confidence in his work.

I look back at when l first started and can attest to this, the better l think lm getting-the more l feel l can charge!

Also the quality of your work is sometimes inconsequential, l have a newish customer that asked me for a quote a couple of months back. I quoted £15 and asked how much she was paying her current cleaner. £7 she answered! At first l didnt know what to say...then l replied its hard to compete with that....especialy if your paying tax etc. She said l think you may be right, the 2 fellas that clean her windows do a good job but she feels they are gypsies and whenever they call she feels very uneasy when they are around.

So she now pays me more than double for almost the same thing (l do a better job-l know this because of all the stains etc l took off on first clean) and it just comes down to the way l look and speak.

Sometimes if a jobs convenient for you and a simple task but the customer haggles you down below your price you might take the job anyway and if you do you may just"spend"a little less time and effort on that one. I dont think thats a bad thing because your still getting your hourly rate and the customers still getting value for money.

Mick Kent

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Re: video cleaning front windows
« Reply #97 on: August 12, 2017, 10:32:45 pm »
Im a proud splash and dash cleaner..im in it for the money. Do a good first clean then every other 4 weekly clean is a doddle! I see it as cleaning clean glass so no need to take ages.

KS Cleaning

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Re: video cleaning front windows
« Reply #98 on: August 13, 2017, 01:12:45 am »
Im a proud splash and dash cleaner..im in it for the money. Do a good first clean then every other 4 weekly clean is a doddle! I see it as cleaning clean glass so no need to take ages.
Good on ye Mick 👍

jo5hm4n

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Re: video cleaning front windows
« Reply #99 on: August 13, 2017, 01:34:36 pm »
Nathan ignore the negative comments on this thread, some of us do actually enjoy watching your videos.  Keep it up  :D