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dazmond

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Re: video cleaning front windows
« Reply #40 on: August 10, 2017, 08:22:06 am »
The issues I have when trying to go faster are

Not enough scrubbing so leave the odd mark thats not removed. I see people making one pass but my windows don't seem to be like that, there's nearly always some pollen, bird muck or something that requires extra scrubbing.

Not enough rinsing, all seems good then when you check after there's bits you haven't rinsed off

Sills not clean, with a quick swipe over it usually dislodges muck from under the gap. Takes a bit of rinsing or wipe with a cloth.

Perhaps the issue is I like mine to be perfect I just can't bring myself to do it half assed which is what I would feel like I was doing dashing round with a quick swipe of the glass rinsing on and a quick swipe of the sill.

OR maybe I am as fast as you Nathan perhaps it's that I don't have the compact work you have. I have next to nothing on the same street.

a fairly standard 3 bed semi(regularly cleaned) should take no longer than 10-15 mins cleaning sills,frames and doors too.if you have compact work that  means around 4 or 5  an hour.

rushing around trying to cram in more houses an hour and your going to make mistakes and its not sustainable over the course of a 6 or 7 hour day.

its all about pricing too not just how fast you are.



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robbo333

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Re: video cleaning front windows
« Reply #41 on: August 10, 2017, 08:25:26 am »
Aye Dazmond is an ex alchie, wasted most of his youth, has no kids and lives on his own in a rented, pokey council flat!  ;D

yep thats right and slept with more women than you ve had hot dinners!........yes totally wasted! ;D ;D ;D

I think Nathan has had a few hot dinners, i've seen the pics!  ;D
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Dry Clean

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Re: video cleaning front windows
« Reply #42 on: August 10, 2017, 08:39:42 am »
Should have stuck to blowing into his pole instead of trying to clean windows with it,
here's one of his earlier video's before the Pugsley Addams look.
▶ 4:47
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz3Q0fGs9E4


dazmond

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Re: video cleaning front windows
« Reply #43 on: August 10, 2017, 09:06:37 am »
Should have stuck to blowing into his pole instead of trying to clean windows with it,
here's one of his earlier video's before the Pugsley Addams look.
▶ 4:47
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz3Q0fGs9E4

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

brilliant!
price higher/work harder!

nathankaye

  • Posts: 5366
Re: video cleaning front windows
« Reply #44 on: August 10, 2017, 09:15:27 am »
The issues I have when trying to go faster are

Not enough scrubbing so leave the odd mark thats not removed. I see people making one pass but my windows don't seem to be like that, there's nearly always some pollen, bird muck or something that requires extra scrubbing.

Not enough rinsing, all seems good then when you check after there's bits you haven't rinsed off

Sills not clean, with a quick swipe over it usually dislodges muck from under the gap. Takes a bit of rinsing or wipe with a cloth.

Perhaps the issue is I like mine to be perfect I just can't bring myself to do it half assed which is what I would feel like I was doing dashing round with a quick swipe of the glass rinsing on and a quick swipe of the sill.

OR maybe I am as fast as you Nathan perhaps it's that I don't have the compact work you have. I have next to nothing on the same street.

a fairly standard 3 bed semi(regularly cleaned) should take no longer than 10-15 mins cleaning sills,frames and doors too.if you have compact work that  means around 4 or 5  an hour.

rushing around trying to cram in more houses an hour and your going to make mistakes and its not sustainable over the course of a 6 or 7 hour day.

its all about pricing too not just how fast you are.
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Its funny, i mostly agree with you daz and as ive said many a times it depends on so many factors but on the video you refer to about 15 houses, do they look like regular 3 bed semis??  Are you honestly telling me that if you have been cleaning them for 15yrs, all open planed and no pots in way or foot traffic (as its a very quiet cul de sac) that you would struggle to clean 15 houses which are regular 4 weekly cleans and by the way thats fitting in a coffee break with a customer and not racing/running or breaking a sweat??

Its a combination of speed and price daz, not just one or the other. You could have really well priced houses but if you cant clean many in a day then its not that great!
Besides i'ld rather play bingo with beer and walk out withb £900 ☺ than have to worry what people think
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֍Winp®oClean֍

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Re: video cleaning front windows
« Reply #45 on: August 10, 2017, 09:31:42 am »
Regardless.... you will most probably do it very differently in another Two years from now, with a totally different brush that doesn't have Six jets, the learning curve for wfp is approx 5/6 years IMO.
Look at Dazmond- hot water= best thing since sliced bread- now it makes no difference whatsoever. Extreme pole= cannot work with any other pole, so much easier, now he's back to SLX because of the expense- despite earning mega bucks (apparently). Vision= brilliant! the gleam and ease make things so much better- now it makes things worse and doesn't really work at all. Vans= best van in the world is an old cheap Connect, ideal for a sole wfp'er but can earn just as much from the back of an old Golf, now you have to have a brand new connect with heated seats, aircon etc etc.... we would all be bankrupt just trying to keep up if we followed his advice!! ;D ;D

My advice- don't be so eager to arm your competitors with your knowledge. It can take years to learn and the process can be costly, keep some of it for yourself.
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Jonny 87

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Re: video cleaning front windows
« Reply #46 on: August 10, 2017, 10:50:10 am »
I like your videos nathan, but this one seemed a bit pointless really, just some chap cleaning windows...

it was like watching paint dry  :'(

Yep im gonna delete soon. I thought with having a bluetooth microphone it would pick up the speech but it hasnt done so. When i uploaded it from my phone I thought it might just be my speakers and that a laptop or whatever would play the speech louder. But I have just chrome casted it to my TV and on full pelt on sound you cant hear me which goes against what i was trying to achieve  :'(

In answer to someone else comment about the 14inch brush, when im cleaning the downstairs bay and working from the side, i do say on vid (thats why this copy is pointless) that i have a 14inch brush, half the brush is cleaning the top frame with 3 jets on, and half the brush is cleaning top line of the window again with 3 jets on, which not only aids in shifting any dirt from the top frame but also on the window as well.   So the idiots who say about cutting corners with speed or whatever get off your high horses and correct your stubborn way of thinking.
Would i have compact rounds and be in this job for over 15 yrs if i did a crap job splashing windows and the prices that my customers pay compared to local competition.   I do wonder how some of you guys actually work, its like living in dark ages from what alot of you think. Youve been in a rut for so long that when others come along with new ideas, styles  ((and what makes me laugh is that because ive not been on this forum long or on wfp long you think im a newbie)) and results you close your mind to it because in your tiny minds if youve not been able to do it in X amount of years then no one can.
Thats why people like me and others including Lee may come across as a threat perhaps.........bet your glad Lee isnt operating in your areas im guessing.

even with all your fannying about i bet i still earn a lot more than you do over the course of a year(and do less hours!) :D

i reckon your a 25 grand a year window cleaner. ;D

Daz you used to be the happy go lucky, positive chap who didn't speak negatively.

I think you need to take a break from CIU. It's dragging you down.  :o

The main thing is that we all earn a living, and work how we want to work. Some like to cram a lot of work in at a decent price, others like to work at a relaxed pace but have higher prices. Others combine the two. There's no wrong way, aslong as you and your customers are happy.
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Jonny 87

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Re: video cleaning front windows
« Reply #47 on: August 10, 2017, 10:55:56 am »
Just found my video from about 2 years ago that I did. Got me a lot of stick too!

Must be a forum thing.

 ;D

http://youtu.be/8GrTUs7JwfQ
Vision Technician / Visual Engineer /  Vision Enhancement Operative /...........................................................OnlyUseMeWFP AkA Jonny the Windy Wesher

8weekly

Re: video cleaning front windows
« Reply #48 on: August 10, 2017, 11:25:46 am »
Just found my video from about 2 years ago that I did. Got me a lot of stick too!

Must be a forum thing.

 ;D

http://youtu.be/8GrTUs7JwfQ
That's pretty much how I work although I wouldn't do the second rinse and wouldn't keep looking at the camera.  ;D

Tosh

  • Posts: 2964
Re: video cleaning front windows
« Reply #49 on: August 10, 2017, 01:51:49 pm »
I don't think anyone can't dispute this fella could teach us all a thing or two.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Efpufk5146E
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nathankaye

  • Posts: 5366
Re: video cleaning front windows
« Reply #50 on: August 10, 2017, 01:53:38 pm »
I don't think anyone can't dispute this fella could teach us all a thing or two.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Efpufk5146E

Hes my idol 😂😂
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Dave Anderson

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Re: video cleaning front windows
« Reply #51 on: August 10, 2017, 02:22:59 pm »
Think Jonny 87's video about does it for me..... I do 8 weeklys and that 2nd rinse does work for me on occasion.... Not sure about some on here... Do you ever get on a piece of glass and find you have spent what appears to be about 2 days cleaning, scrubbing, rinsing, re-cleaning, more scrubbing and a little more rinsing?

I have been wfp since 06 and to be honest I still do not think at times I have a very clear idea of whats best....
The more I know the less I know I know ...

tony day

  • Posts: 183
Re: video cleaning front windows
« Reply #52 on: August 10, 2017, 02:40:30 pm »
I like your videos nathan, but this one seemed a bit pointless really, just some chap cleaning windows...

it was like watching paint dry  :'(

Yep im gonna delete soon. I thought with having a bluetooth microphone it would pick up the speech but it hasnt done so. When i uploaded it from my phone I thought it might just be my speakers and that a laptop or whatever would play the speech louder. But I have just chrome casted it to my TV and on full pelt on sound you cant hear me which goes against what i was trying to achieve  :'(

In answer to someone else comment about the 14inch brush, when im cleaning the downstairs bay and working from the side, i do say on vid (thats why this copy is pointless) that i have a 14inch brush, half the brush is cleaning the top frame with 3 jets on, and half the brush is cleaning top line of the window again with 3 jets on, which not only aids in shifting any dirt from the top frame but also on the window as well.   So the idiots who say about cutting corners with speed or whatever get off your high horses and correct your stubborn way of thinking.
Would i have compact rounds and be in this job for over 15 yrs if i did a crap job splashing windows and the prices that my customers pay compared to local competition.   I do wonder how some of you guys actually work, its like living in dark ages from what alot of you think. Youve been in a rut for so long that when others come along with new ideas, styles  ((and what makes me laugh is that because ive not been on this forum long or on wfp long you think im a newbie)) and results you close your mind to it because in your tiny minds if youve not been able to do it in X amount of years then no one can.
Thats why people like me and others including Lee may come across as a threat perhaps.........bet your glad Lee isnt operating in your areas im guessing.

even with all your fannying about i bet i still earn a lot more than you do over the course of a year(and do less hours!) :D

i reckon your a 25 grand a year window cleaner. ;D
What a stupid comment to make! CRINGE!

dazmond

  • Posts: 23988
Re: video cleaning front windows
« Reply #53 on: August 10, 2017, 03:20:46 pm »
The issues I have when trying to go faster are

Not enough scrubbing so leave the odd mark thats not removed. I see people making one pass but my windows don't seem to be like that, there's nearly always some pollen, bird muck or something that requires extra scrubbing.

Not enough rinsing, all seems good then when you check after there's bits you haven't rinsed off

Sills not clean, with a quick swipe over it usually dislodges muck from under the gap. Takes a bit of rinsing or wipe with a cloth.

Perhaps the issue is I like mine to be perfect I just can't bring myself to do it half assed which is what I would feel like I was doing dashing round with a quick swipe of the glass rinsing on and a quick swipe of the sill.

OR maybe I am as fast as you Nathan perhaps it's that I don't have the compact work you have. I have next to nothing on the same street.

a fairly standard 3 bed semi(regularly cleaned) should take no longer than 10-15 mins cleaning sills,frames and doors too.if you have compact work that  means around 4 or 5  an hour.

rushing around trying to cram in more houses an hour and your going to make mistakes and its not sustainable over the course of a 6 or 7 hour day.

its all about pricing too not just how fast you are.
[/quote

Its funny, i mostly agree with you daz and as ive said many a times it depends on so many factors but on the video you refer to about 15 houses, do they look like regular 3 bed semis??  Are you honestly telling me that if you have been cleaning them for 15yrs, all open planed and no pots in way or foot traffic (as its a very quiet cul de sac) that you would struggle to clean 15 houses which are regular 4 weekly cleans and by the way thats fitting in a coffee break with a customer and not racing/running or breaking a sweat??

Its a combination of speed and price daz, not just one or the other. You could have really well priced houses but if you cant clean many in a day then its not that great!
Besides i'ld rather play bingo with beer and walk out withb £900 ☺ than have to worry what people think

i can easily clean 15 houses in a day but not in 2 hours!no window cleaner can (and do a good job)
price higher/work harder!

nathankaye

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Re: video cleaning front windows
« Reply #54 on: August 10, 2017, 03:34:35 pm »
Oki doki then, i think you should bow down to me!!😂😂😂😂😂
(Joking people)

So you are seriously telling me that two windows at front upstairs and a downstairs bay window followed by maybe 3 or 4 windows (patio doors sometimes) at the rear. Walking round one house and walking down path to next house with no fences and very little gates to mess about with and very little in way of obstacles and passing cars to not slow you down that in all honestly you cannot achieve what I have and you say youve been cleaning for 20yrs!!  Im shocked

Watch that video again people and see how close the houses are to each other and how small they are. Infact heres the link

https://youtu.be/1tdW3uI27Wg

I am legit worried and amazed at how many people say this is impossible and bla bla quality this and quality that.
How long would it take you to clean 15 of these houses every 4 weeks if like me you have done them for 15 yrs. If you say youve been doing it for years and it would take most of a day, then yes I think you should hang your heads in shame and dont pass judgement on me because if anybody is working wrong I can tell you it certainly aint me!!
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dazmond

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Re: video cleaning front windows
« Reply #55 on: August 10, 2017, 03:47:13 pm »
id clean 4 or 5 an hour of houses like them nathan including sills,frames and doors.working at a fairly brisk pace and making sure gates etc are closed etc.i couldnt cram in another 2 and a half houses in that hour without really splashing and dashing and risking a poor job being done IMO.
price higher/work harder!

dazmond

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Re: video cleaning front windows
« Reply #56 on: August 10, 2017, 03:50:30 pm »
thing is nathan we d had people like you on here before saying they can clean much faster than anybody else.one guy even put up a video!(i cant remember his name!)and he was literally RUNNING around the house he was working on!a complete prat! ;D ;D ;D
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Shrek

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Re: video cleaning front windows
« Reply #57 on: August 10, 2017, 03:55:15 pm »

''Also its a 4wkly clean so i dont clean the frames every time''   ::)roll


''Do I cut corners? I might be a little bit splash and dash compared to some on here ..''  ::)roll

Says it all really

KS Cleaning

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Re: video cleaning front windows
« Reply #58 on: August 10, 2017, 04:05:57 pm »
Think I will try to take some of the heat of you Nathan. I cleaned 34 modern houses today, ( it wasn't priorwood drive Dry Clean ;D ) a mix of detached, semi detached in 5 1/4 hours on the glass. I am sitting anxiously by my phone waiting on the customer complaints flooding in as according to most on here they can't possibly be cleaned properly.

nathankaye

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Re: video cleaning front windows
« Reply #59 on: August 10, 2017, 04:15:23 pm »

''Also its a 4wkly clean so i dont clean the frames every time''   ::)roll


''Do I cut corners? I might be a little bit splash and dash compared to some on here ..''  ::)roll

Says it all really

. Let me ask you a question. Do you clean regular 4 weekly work?? Cause im betting you dont!!  If you did and especially in my area, not coastal or near woods, the frames are pretty dam clean.   Let me ask you another question, do you know why you clean the frames on wfp??? Also did you//have you done any trad work???   On trad work i cleaned the windows and to clean the frames I would charge more!!  On wfp do we clean the frames cause its easy or because its a complete package or is it to clean the dirt so it doesnt contaminate the pure water which we leave on the windows????

When you know the answer to these questions you will know why sometimes i dont get the top frames and why that is perfectly ok to do so!! 
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