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P @ F

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Re: Bomb or tracker.....?
« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2017, 09:14:21 pm »
By the time i finish with it , it wont be worth a 5 knuckle shuffle anyway  ;D
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

Spruce

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Re: Bomb or tracker.....?
« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2017, 10:33:53 pm »

If the van has an electric fuel pump I would be discreetly adding an on/off switch into the fuel line to cut power to the fuel pump as an additional security measure  sooner rather than later.



How difficult to do is this Spruce, say on a mk6 transit?

Our Citroen vans have an electric fuel pump that sits in the diesel tank. On my Citroen Relay the unit also consists of the float level sender unit. There are 2 wires that are responsible for the pump to work, a positive and a negative.  In my case I would identify which wire is the pump positive by using a tester.
When we turn the ignition on the fuel pump runs for a short time to prime the injector pump and then switches off if the ignition is left on. So it won't take long to find.

The idea is to cut this wire back in the harness a bit and extend a twin electric cable into the cabin to an on/off switch in an out of sight easy to reach position - in our case on the left hand side of the driver's seat. The return cable from the switch goes to the wire going to the pump.

This isn't a good fix if you continually crank the engine over trying to start the engine before realising you have forgotten to switch the pump on. A fuel injection pump needs diesel all the time as diesel is a lubricant. But I would rather the cost of having to recondition an injector pump than losing my van and all its equipment. The insurance excess is probably more than repairing the pump anyway. So if you did consider this its at your risk.

Not all vans have electric fuel pumps like our Citroen cars and van have.
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P @ F

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Re: Bomb or tracker.....? (SOLVED)
« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2017, 10:06:38 am »
Just spoke to the previous owners , it turns out i was no longer being tracked , unit live but not monitored , the reason they leave the trackers in when they sell the vans is due to the fact that RAM charge £200 +VAT to remove the old units , thats not bad is it , 2 lives , 1 ground .......Snip,snip,snip £240 please sir .
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

Arnold Palmer

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Re: Bomb or tracker.....? (SOLVED)
« Reply #23 on: July 03, 2017, 12:52:00 pm »
Just spoke to the previous owners , it turns out i was no longer being tracked , unit live but not monitored , the reason they leave the trackers in when they sell the vans is due to the fact that RAM charge £200 +VAT to remove the old units , thats not bad is it , 2 lives , 1 ground .......Snip,snip,snip £240 please sir .

Why would someone pay that?
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davids3511

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Re: Bomb or tracker.....?
« Reply #24 on: July 03, 2017, 09:07:45 pm »

If the van has an electric fuel pump I would be discreetly adding an on/off switch into the fuel line to cut power to the fuel pump as an additional security measure  sooner rather than later.



How difficult to do is this Spruce, say on a mk6 transit?

Our Citroen vans have an electric fuel pump that sits in the diesel tank. On my Citroen Relay the unit also consists of the float level sender unit. There are 2 wires that are responsible for the pump to work, a positive and a negative.  In my case I would identify which wire is the pump positive by using a tester.
When we turn the ignition on the fuel pump runs for a short time to prime the injector pump and then switches off if the ignition is left on. So it won't take long to find.

The idea is to cut this wire back in the harness a bit and extend a twin electric cable into the cabin to an on/off switch in an out of sight easy to reach position - in our case on the left hand side of the driver's seat. The return cable from the switch goes to the wire going to the pump.

This isn't a good fix if you continually crank the engine over trying to start the engine before realising you have forgotten to switch the pump on. A fuel injection pump needs diesel all the time as diesel is a lubricant. But I would rather the cost of having to recondition an injector pump than losing my van and all its equipment. The insurance excess is probably more than repairing the pump anyway. So if you did consider this its at your risk.

Not all vans have electric fuel pumps like our Citroen cars and van have.
Cheers Spruce, will get it looked at on the next service.