[Plankton]

What the heck is the cost to build difference on these two items...

The original X-jet M5 http://www.bonnymans.co.uk/products/product.php?categoryID=1928&productID=8782

Quick release detergent injector http://jetmac.co.uk/products/detergent-injector-quick-release

Ok first one has a longer hose, adjustable spray and some bits of plastic.

Second could have a longer hose fitted and could also fit an adjustable spray thingy! Buy some bits of plastic and stick them in your ears or something...

[Plankton]

Using my super softwash hoe today I thought about rebranding it but can't make my mind up on a name. It's down to X-Hoe, Clever Hoe or Pro Hoe. Followed by that will be the Carbon 2.0 model which will increase productivity by 40%.
My tattie picking ancestors spent a couple of hundred years developing it for me so will be priced accordingly!

[Smurf]

X-jets are imported from the states whereas like most things you can coble together something yourself that will do near enough the same job. 

 

[chris scott]

Detergent injectors operate at low pressure...x jets at high pressure.

[Plankton]

Spent too much time yesterday applying softwash so need something half decent, but not wanting to fork out at the moment. Hence the moaning about price.

[chris scott]

You will moan about the price of chemicals if you use a x jet to apply them. A chemical injector is not ideal for softwashing.

[supernova77]

You will moan about the price of chemicals if you use a x jet to apply them. A chemical injector is not ideal for softwashing.

Chris

What equipment do you use for Soft Washing?

Andy

[Mike Halliday]

You will moan about the price of chemicals if you use a x jet to apply them. A chemical injector is not ideal for softwashing.

I agree with this statement, I use an X-jet and the is a massive amount of solution put out, on a roof clean 90% would go down the gutter. We use it for pre-spraying F&S/gutters and luckily TFR /hard surface cleaner is relentivly cheap and dilutes well down so is not too expensive.

When I bought my X-jet I also purchased a 'sniper' jet which fires a pencil jet a big distance (further than the X-jet) it cost £15. I was thinking I could have just put the chemical in my water tank and fed it through the pump  at 50-1 (its not really corrosive) I don't think it would have caused a problem.

[chris scott]

0.5/30lpm

[Smurf]

I remember AC saying at Ashford "Anything with a pull cord or key is not a soft washer"  I must be doing something right.  http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/55-Litre-Quad-ATV-Spot-Sprayer-System-60psi-SHURFLO-/141393008062?hash=item20ebae15be:m:m-1urVaza-FNNziItFGnXJg#

Well everyone has to start somewhere. lol

[chris scott]

"Anything with a pull cord or key is not a soft washer"...and then starts his 5.8 petrol engined truck to charge his " Environmentally friendly" battery powered  softwashing system . That sprays 18lpm of bleach where 1 lpm would clean...

[Smurf]

Think we agree AC's softwash systems maybe highly productive in the states as that is how they like to work spraying bleach onto buidings. However they are not ideally suited for the UK regards to the fixed flow rate shooting high volumes of chems from the ground.

I'm sure he is also well aware that his delivery systems need to be tweeked for the UK market. That being the main concern for most UK softwash guys as they want a versatile system to be able to tackle all jobs and types/sizes of properties. Peeps like myself need a system that can treat all types of surfaces at a variable flow rates..  Also have the choice of treatments they want to use be it bleach based, ddac, tfr, weed killer or whatever is required for the job in hand..

Even that simple cheap atv spot sprayer I bought to have a play with I had to add a pump flow controller to the 8lpm pump as was wasting too much chems , creating too much runoff/ drift even when doing render cleans via wfp spray method.

[trafficjamz]

I remember AC saying at Ashford "Anything with a pull cord or key is not a soft washer"  I must be doing something right.  http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/55-Litre-Quad-ATV-Spot-Sprayer-System-60psi-SHURFLO-/141393008062?hash=item20ebae15be:m:m-1urVaza-FNNziItFGnXJg#

Well everyone has to start somewhere. lol

I've started here too. thanks to your suggestion.

[Smurf]

I remember AC saying at Ashford "Anything with a pull cord or key is not a soft washer"  I must be doing something right.  http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/55-Litre-Quad-ATV-Spot-Sprayer-System-60psi-SHURFLO-/141393008062?hash=item20ebae15be:m:m-1urVaza-FNNziItFGnXJg#

Well everyone has to start somewhere. lol

I've started here too. thanks to your suggestion.

No probs. It's certainly not the most productive set up by any means compared to what you can get but is cheap and will pay for itself on day one any many more times over.

I found it was best to add a wfp pump controller to it so you can adjust the flow for the job in hand. That way you have full control so to help reduce run off, chem drift and chem wastage.


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[chris scott]

For sale £675 tel 07973216502 New engine, new frame,recon pump.

[trafficjamz]

No probs. It's certainly not the most productive set up by any means compared to what you can get but is cheap and will pay for itself on day one any many more times over.

I found it was best to add a wfp pump controller to it so you can adjust the flow for the job in hand. That way you have full control so to help reduce run off, chem drift and chem wastage.


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I'm sharing the pump controller with my wfp pump, using a switch 
Then I used a couple of T connectors and some valves so that I can switch from ddac (that's in the small tank it came with) to pure water from my main 650L wfp tank, so that I can flush the system after using it. and also acts as a 3rd reel if I get desperate lol.
I was thinking of getting another tank for the SH with another T connector and valve,  then switch to whatever I want.
I need to think about rinsing now and I'm currently waiting for Ben to reply with his recommendation.   Was thinking maybe of getting a high pressure washer for rinsing, which I could then use for paths and driveways.

[M Roberts]

For sale £675 tel 07973216502 New engine, new frame,recon pump.

Nice one, Seen the Cooper Pegler version but where did you find that berthound tank ?

[chris scott]

Bought it a while back from ebay fr.

[Plankton]

Ordered one of these spray nozzles for the Gardiner pole to apply biocide and hypo but it wasn't sent as they never had a fan jet I had ordered as well 
So the PW gun has a large outlet which works for rinsing and I used it yesterday to apply the antiungal wash on two roofs between 1530 - 1800 the second roof I arrived at 1730 and was well chuffed at how quickly I setup and sprayed it, rinsed the over spray with a garden hose and off home.
With the rain forecast for next week I had to get them finished but used 300 litres in the process.

[Plankton]

0.5/30lpm

That's one heavy duty setup. What's the spray attachment on the pole.
I was looking at something like this - http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=208070.0
Or - https://www.softwashtechnology.co.uk/products/comet-mc18-230v-motor-pump-softwash-unit-viton-acid-resistant
Or even cheaper - https://www.softwashtechnology.co.uk/products/shurflo-5000-series-diaphragm-pump-12v
Using a wfp setup with microbore and pole hose and the following  - https://www.softwashtechnology.co.uk/collections/lances-and-jets/products/benz-spray-nozzle-push-fit-type?variant=19326961157 I'm not sure if it would be restricting the above pumps.