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danny@thepersonalcoachinggroup

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Re: business start ups and growth
« Reply #40 on: April 18, 2017, 06:34:27 pm »
£76k turnover with 6 employees..... am I missing something?

grown to!!!! and growing as it says mate

danny@thepersonalcoachinggroup

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Re: business start ups and growth
« Reply #41 on: April 18, 2017, 06:40:54 pm »
£76k turnover with 6 employees..... am I missing something?

grown to!!!! and growing as it says mate
business info
I took on two people to do what I had whilst I canvassed and grow more work
took on another to take care of that work with me and help canvass and grow good public image
took on another whilst they did the work whilst I canvassed and work with me doing new jobs and canvas
no more canvassing just straight leads
etc etc

Marc Stock

Re: business start ups and growth
« Reply #42 on: April 18, 2017, 06:54:05 pm »
Good stuff Danny
LinkedIn invite sent to you.

76k turnover last year with 110k projected for 2017. Impressive.

 6 employees I'd imagine this is recently taken on staff for 2017 yes? So that's approx 36k per employee correction: £18k, seems a bit on the very low to me that but then again with 6 staff you should be getting towards 300k a year turnover by the end of the 2017-2018 financial year. Approx 50k per employee is what you need in my opinion.

I take it you are VAT registered/about to register as you are near the threshold.

Are you LTD company? Sole trader turning over this kind of money will attract HMRC so be careful. (Been there before)

Your numbers seem way off, however I'd like to link in with you.


֍Winp®oClean֍

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Re: business start ups and growth
« Reply #43 on: April 18, 2017, 07:14:38 pm »
£76k turnover with 6 employees..... am I missing something?

grown to!!!! and growing as it says mate
business info
I took on two people to do what I had whilst I canvassed and grow more work
took on another to take care of that work with me and help canvass and grow good public image
took on another whilst they did the work whilst I canvassed and work with me doing new jobs and canvas
no more canvassing just straight leads
etc etc

How are you paying 6 people and yourself?
Comfortably Numb!

֍Winp®oClean֍

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Re: business start ups and growth
« Reply #44 on: April 18, 2017, 07:21:07 pm »
£76k turnover with 6 employees..... am I missing something?

grown to!!!! and growing as it says mate

The last financial year ended 2 weeks ago so you've either had an incredible 2 weeks or you have a considerable deficit?
Comfortably Numb!

danny@thepersonalcoachinggroup

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Re: business start ups and growth
« Reply #45 on: April 18, 2017, 07:26:22 pm »
Good stuff Danny
LinkedIn invite sent to you.

76k turnover last year with 110k projected for 2017. Impressive.

 6 employees I'd imagine this is recently taken on staff for 2017 yes? So that's approx 36k per employee, seems a bit on the low side to me that but then again with 6 staff you should be getting towards 300k a year turnover by the end of the 2017-2018 financial year. Approx 50k per employee is what you need in my opinion.

I take it you are VAT registered/about to register as you are near the threshold.

Are you LTD company? Sole trader turning over this kind of money will attract HMRC so be careful. (Been there before)

Anyway I'd like to link in with you.

thank you Marc
will gladly connect on linked in
I'm a sole trader, yeah I'm fully aware of my obligations to hmrc and vat responsibilities. No I'm not there yet but I in constant connection with my accountant monitoring it.
staff pay is not that high but they understand the way we are building up gradually together. everyone is above/well above living wage limits and constantly going up with regard to working criteria. Also well above other window cleaners locally. I try to create the best environment and job satisfaction levels for them. everything is all above board too, not like others I have known and worked for previously.
honesty and openness is something that has helped with our growth and the staying power of most employees.
thanks for your comments
Danny

Dave Willis

Re: business start ups and growth
« Reply #46 on: April 18, 2017, 07:29:54 pm »
This is a wind up isn't it?

֍Winp®oClean֍

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Re: business start ups and growth
« Reply #47 on: April 18, 2017, 07:31:17 pm »
This is a wind up isn't it?

Can't be.... a sole trader with Six employees!
Comfortably Numb!

Dave Willis

Re: business start ups and growth
« Reply #48 on: April 18, 2017, 07:31:47 pm »
Six people and only 76000? This is the funniest thread this year.

danny@thepersonalcoachinggroup

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Re: business start ups and growth
« Reply #49 on: April 18, 2017, 07:33:21 pm »
£76k turnover with 6 employees..... am I missing something?

grown to!!!! and growing as it says mate
business info
I took on two people to do what I had whilst I canvassed and grow more work
took on another to take care of that work with me and help canvass and grow good public image
took on another whilst they did the work whilst I canvassed and work with me doing new jobs and canvas
no more canvassing just straight leads
etc etc

How are you paying 6 people and yourself?
As employee numbers build over the past few years so have there number of hours, starters only do a few days for a few months to settle in and build up the work levels to consistently work. then someone may leave/asked to leave and then go through it all again. a few frogs before the window cleaner comes along.

danny@thepersonalcoachinggroup

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Re: business start ups and growth
« Reply #50 on: April 18, 2017, 07:34:59 pm »
This is a wind up isn't it?

Can't be.... a sole trader with Six employees!
is that right, I haven't heard any different from my accountant??
 its five and myself

danny@thepersonalcoachinggroup

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Re: business start ups and growth
« Reply #51 on: April 18, 2017, 07:39:01 pm »
Six people and only 76000? This is the funniest thread this year.

why would (if that was the case) would that be funny.
work is work for love or money
we have turned over that the past year whilst everybody hours grow who were on at the time, taken on new workers and lots of new work?

Dry Clean

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Re: business start ups and growth
« Reply #52 on: April 18, 2017, 07:40:39 pm »
Six people and only 76000? This is the funniest thread this year.

5 employees plus himself.
£110k expected this year, still trying to work out how Marc came up with £36k per employee.

֍Winp®oClean֍

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Re: business start ups and growth
« Reply #53 on: April 18, 2017, 07:43:10 pm »
So you have Five pals doing a few hours a month for you?
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danny@thepersonalcoachinggroup

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Re: business start ups and growth
« Reply #54 on: April 18, 2017, 07:47:39 pm »
This is a wind up isn't it?

Can't be.... a sole trader with Six employees!
a sole trader can have as many employees as it likes I believe sorry peavey
is that right, I haven't heard any different from my accountant??
 its five and myself

danny@thepersonalcoachinggroup

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Re: business start ups and growth
« Reply #55 on: April 18, 2017, 07:53:58 pm »
So you have Five pals doing a few hours a month for you?

nooooo, we had 2 on  part time hours a few years ago.
someone else comes on does some hours working, then a few more ticketing.
then starts to do that work with growing hours, then another came on starting on afew hours cleaning , then a few ticketing, whilst that builds then does more hours
and so on and so on
5 employess and my self now!!!
you are missing the point of projected work each year and taking on an employee to work that part of the round!
it is not hard and it is working

Dave Willis

Re: business start ups and growth
« Reply #56 on: April 18, 2017, 07:56:08 pm »
Aha, part timers. Old timers too?

֍Winp®oClean֍

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Re: business start ups and growth
« Reply #57 on: April 18, 2017, 07:59:35 pm »
This is a wind up isn't it?

Can't be.... a sole trader with Six employees!
a sole trader can have as many employees as it likes I believe sorry peavey
is that right, I haven't heard any different from my accountant??
 its five and myself

Indeed, but all above board and only turning over 70-oddK? Pensions, holiday/sick pay, NI contributions etc?
 Surely they can't be doing many hours or that desperate to line someone else's pockets?
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Lee Pryor

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Re: business start ups and growth
« Reply #58 on: April 18, 2017, 08:02:40 pm »
AdamThompson
8 Weekly
Lee pryor
k.diver
nathankaye
Marc Stock
G Griffin

and relax.....
sorry for the late reply just got to sit down at the comp
Danny Wiseman age 34
started in 07 worked like a typical window cleaner for years doing bits and bobs and finding every excuse not to work
3 years ago I said lets do it and built so far too...........
Dans Windows
info@danswindows.co.uk
www.danswindows.co.uk
facebook/danswindows
3 vans
6 people working as full time as we can(weather permitted, paid holidays, illnesses, family duties)tips given on employing and dealing with staff needs
£76,0000 turnover last financial year, 50% profit- tips given on marketing, branding and personal development
£110,000 projected work on cleaner planner site set out for next year provided we stay as we are
not updated with the £180 job we did today that is every month
or the endless list of work I have to get to price
not included gutter and conservatory cleans lots would like us to do
9 voice mails today half will be new leads, facebook messages and email leads to go with that
all welcome to come and see for yourselves what I am building

loving the hustle, set up a side business to help others with the knowledge I have
info@personalcoachinggroup.co.uk
www.personalcoachinggroup.co.uk
working some friends who have expertise in health and fitness, youth coaching.(which I have the diploma to go with)

currently working alongside my friends and business partners in Ukraine to set up a relaxing retreat accommodation for couples staying in shepherd huts and glamping pods in Odesa region, beautiful city by the way, thoroughly recommend

what else needs covering?

peace, love and karma to all

Er I'm sorry Danny but you have just completely blown it there.

What a load of absolute rubbish! It is very very clear to me you have no understanding of business at all.

So you turned over 76k with 6 staff and made 50% profit!!! Haha!!!  So that means each of your staff earned £6300.00 for the year. Oh and that doesn't account for any other expenses like running a van!!!

This is a bit like when you watch dragons den and it's all going well until the numbers bit and then we see they have no idea at all.

Danny your numbers simply don't add up mate. And believe me I should know. Each of my team turn over that much a year. 6!!! Lies mate just lies.

On the off chance this rubbish is true I put it to you that you have a terrible business and that a person would be mad to take any advice from you based on those numbers!

Ok now let me show you mine.

11 vans 9 currently out 2 more going out this year. Everyone purchased brand new and all with hot water.

£650,000.00 annual turnover

£800k target with 12 months

Profit on that is my business and I'm not telling so there.

2 full time office staff plus me, plus staffed call centre backing that up.

£100k spent last year on marketing

State of the art office and one of if not the biggest static filtration system in the country.

The only window cleaning company in the uk to deliver 1million leaflets in a year.

The first and only uk window cleaning company to advertise on TV.

So members of the forum, as long as you don't cover areas we do and are not someone that has been rude to me here in the past, you are welcome to contact my office any time for FREE advice on literally ANY aspect of running or growing your business.

Danny I won't be investing in you, I'm out!
The best way to predict the future is to create it.

danny@thepersonalcoachinggroup

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Re: business start ups and growth
« Reply #59 on: April 18, 2017, 08:03:17 pm »
Aha, part timers. Old timers too?


well yeah full time plus what were part timers now full timers is it really hard for you understand)))
all my employees young and old are respected and supported fully as for what they want to get out of it.
last financial year one had used up all holiday and wanted a week off to spend time with his family. so do you know what happened? granted time off with early wage advance!!! there is something within those sentences you may understand with regard to employee job satisfaction and work life balance