[Marc Stock]

Six people and only 76000? This is the funniest thread this year.

5 employees plus himself.
£110k expected this year, still trying to work out how Marc came up with £36k per employee.

my 4 year old son was jumping up and down distracting me. 

correction approx £18k per employee, which is even lower 

Good stuff Danny
LinkedIn invite sent to you.

76k turnover last year with 110k projected for 2017. Impressive.

 6 employees I'd imagine this is recently taken on staff for 2017 yes? So that's approx 36k per employee correction: £18k, seems a bit on the very low to me that but then again with 6 staff you should be getting towards 300k a year turnover by the end of the 2017-2018 financial year. Approx 50k per employee is what you need in my opinion.

I take it you are VAT registered/about to register as you are near the threshold.

Are you LTD company? Sole trader turning over this kind of money will attract HMRC so be careful. (Been there before)

Your numbers seem way off, however I'd like to link in with you.

[CleanClear]

AdamThompson
8 Weekly
Lee pryor
k.diver
nathankaye
Marc Stock
G Griffin

and relax.....
sorry for the late reply just got to sit down at the comp
Danny Wiseman age 34
started in 07 worked like a typical window cleaner for years doing bits and bobs and finding every excuse not to work
3 years ago I said lets do it and built so far too...........
Dans Windows
info@danswindows.co.uk
www.danswindows.co.uk
facebook/danswindows
3 vans
6 people working as full time as we can(weather permitted, paid holidays, illnesses, family duties)tips given on employing and dealing with staff needs
£76,0000 turnover last financial year, 50% profit- tips given on marketing, branding and personal development
£110,000 projected work on cleaner planner site set out for next year provided we stay as we are
not updated with the £180 job we did today that is every month
or the endless list of work I have to get to price
not included gutter and conservatory cleans lots would like us to do
9 voice mails today half will be new leads, facebook messages and email leads to go with that
all welcome to come and see for yourselves what I am building

loving the hustle, set up a side business to help others with the knowledge I have
info@personalcoachinggroup.co.uk
www.personalcoachinggroup.co.uk
working some friends who have expertise in health and fitness, youth coaching.(which I have the diploma to go with)

currently working alongside my friends and business partners in Ukraine to set up a relaxing retreat accommodation for couples staying in shepherd huts and glamping pods in Odesa region, beautiful city by the way, thoroughly recommend

what else needs covering?

peace, love and karma to all

Er I'm sorry Danny but you have just completely blown it there.

What a load of absolute rubbish! It is very very clear to me you have no understanding of business at all.

So you turned over 76k with 6 staff and made 50% profit!!! Haha!!!  So that means each of your staff earned £6300.00 for the year. Oh and that doesn't account for any other expenses like running a van!!!

This is a bit like when you watch dragons den and it's all going well until the numbers bit and then we see they have no idea at all.

Danny your numbers simply don't add up mate. And believe me I should know. Each of my team turn over that much a year. 6!!! Lies mate just lies.

On the off chance this rubbish is true I put it to you that you have a terrible business and that a person would be mad to take any advice from you based on those numbers!

Ok now let me show you mine.

11 vans 9 currently out 2 more going out this year. Everyone purchased brand new and all with hot water.

£650,000.00 annual turnover

£800k target with 12 months

Profit on that is my business and I'm not telling so there.

2 full time office staff plus me, plus staffed call centre backing that up.

£100k spent last year on marketing

State of the art office and one of if not the biggest static filtration system in the country.

The only window cleaning company in the uk to deliver 1million leaflets in a year.

The first and only uk window cleaning company to advertise on TV.

So members of the forum, as long as you don't cover areas we do and are not someone that has been rude to me here in the past, you are welcome to contact my office any time for FREE advice on literally ANY aspect of running or growing your business.

Danny I won't be investing in you, I'm out!

Hang on a minute Lee....... you've just done what you said everyoone does on this forum and that is poo poo someone with aspirations !!!   

[Lee Pryor]

Six people and only 76000? This is the funniest thread this year.

5 employees plus himself.
£110k expected this year, still trying to work out how Marc came up with £36k per employee.

my 4 year old son was jumping up and down distracting me. 

correction approx £18k per employee, which is even lower 

Good stuff Danny
LinkedIn invite sent to you.

76k turnover last year with 110k projected for 2017. Impressive.

 6 employees I'd imagine this is recently taken on staff for 2017 yes? So that's approx 36k per employee correction: £18k, seems a bit on the very low to me that but then again with 6 staff you should be getting towards 300k a year turnover by the end of the 2017-2018 financial year. Approx 50k per employee is what you need in my opinion.

I take it you are VAT registered/about to register as you are near the threshold.

Are you LTD company? Sole trader turning over this kind of money will attract HMRC so be careful. (Been there before)

Your numbers seem way off, however I'd like to link in with you.

Dont forget Marc he said 50% profit on the 76k and anyone with business skills knows that profit comes AFTER you pay your staff and ALL your other expenses!

This guy is offering business advice! What a complete joke.

[Lee Pryor]

AdamThompson
8 Weekly
Lee pryor
k.diver
nathankaye
Marc Stock
G Griffin

and relax.....
sorry for the late reply just got to sit down at the comp
Danny Wiseman age 34
started in 07 worked like a typical window cleaner for years doing bits and bobs and finding every excuse not to work
3 years ago I said lets do it and built so far too...........
Dans Windows
info@danswindows.co.uk
www.danswindows.co.uk
facebook/danswindows
3 vans
6 people working as full time as we can(weather permitted, paid holidays, illnesses, family duties)tips given on employing and dealing with staff needs
£76,0000 turnover last financial year, 50% profit- tips given on marketing, branding and personal development
£110,000 projected work on cleaner planner site set out for next year provided we stay as we are
not updated with the £180 job we did today that is every month
or the endless list of work I have to get to price
not included gutter and conservatory cleans lots would like us to do
9 voice mails today half will be new leads, facebook messages and email leads to go with that
all welcome to come and see for yourselves what I am building

loving the hustle, set up a side business to help others with the knowledge I have
info@personalcoachinggroup.co.uk
www.personalcoachinggroup.co.uk
working some friends who have expertise in health and fitness, youth coaching.(which I have the diploma to go with)

currently working alongside my friends and business partners in Ukraine to set up a relaxing retreat accommodation for couples staying in shepherd huts and glamping pods in Odesa region, beautiful city by the way, thoroughly recommend

what else needs covering?

peace, love and karma to all

Er I'm sorry Danny but you have just completely blown it there.

What a load of absolute rubbish! It is very very clear to me you have no understanding of business at all.

So you turned over 76k with 6 staff and made 50% profit!!! Haha!!!  So that means each of your staff earned £6300.00 for the year. Oh and that doesn't account for any other expenses like running a van!!!

This is a bit like when you watch dragons den and it's all going well until the numbers bit and then we see they have no idea at all.

Danny your numbers simply don't add up mate. And believe me I should know. Each of my team turn over that much a year. 6!!! Lies mate just lies.

On the off chance this rubbish is true I put it to you that you have a terrible business and that a person would be mad to take any advice from you based on those numbers!

Ok now let me show you mine.

11 vans 9 currently out 2 more going out this year. Everyone purchased brand new and all with hot water.

£650,000.00 annual turnover

£800k target with 12 months

Profit on that is my business and I'm not telling so there.

2 full time office staff plus me, plus staffed call centre backing that up.

£100k spent last year on marketing

State of the art office and one of if not the biggest static filtration system in the country.

The only window cleaning company in the uk to deliver 1million leaflets in a year.

The first and only uk window cleaning company to advertise on TV.

So members of the forum, as long as you don't cover areas we do and are not someone that has been rude to me here in the past, you are welcome to contact my office any time for FREE advice on literally ANY aspect of running or growing your business.

Danny I won't be investing in you, I'm out!

Hang on a minute Lee....... you've just done what you said everyoone does on this forum and that is poo poo someone with aspirations !!!   

I realise it seems that way but those numbers just dont add up.

[David Kent @ KentKleen]

Danny, I'm out.
Good work Lee!!
Amazing what can be done with a window cleaning business. Working hard to catch you up!!
 

 

[Marc Stock]

I agree Lee

 Im going to take these numbers with a pinch of salt though.

wow lions pit and all.....

[CleanClear]

I realise it seems that way but those numbers just dont add up.

In all fairness you asked last time......."Am i stupid or just taking a chance" (or similar) , when everyone said you're stupid then you spat your dummy out !!!   

Danny is asking to "business mentor us" and needs a case example, hopefully from one of us i assume. He's just blew the best chance of a case example he had.. i.e his own !!!   

All good fun, beats watching Coronation St. , and i'll still be cleaning windows tomorrow while you're swivelling in your chair in the office and Danny is looking for his next victim/customer 

[CleanClear]

I agree Lee

 Im going to take these numbers with a pinch of salt though.

wow lions pit and all.....

You can't even get your own numbers right, never mind his !!!!!

[danny@thepersonalcoachinggroup]

AdamThompson
8 Weekly
Lee pryor
k.diver
nathankaye
Marc Stock
G Griffin

and relax.....
sorry for the late reply just got to sit down at the comp
Danny Wiseman age 34
started in 07 worked like a typical window cleaner for years doing bits and bobs and finding every excuse not to work
3 years ago I said lets do it and built so far too...........
Dans Windows
info@danswindows.co.uk
www.danswindows.co.uk
facebook/danswindows
3 vans
6 people working as full time as we can(weather permitted, paid holidays, illnesses, family duties)tips given on employing and dealing with staff needs
£76,0000 turnover last financial year, 50% profit- tips given on marketing, branding and personal development
£110,000 projected work on cleaner planner site set out for next year provided we stay as we are
not updated with the £180 job we did today that is every month
or the endless list of work I have to get to price
not included gutter and conservatory cleans lots would like us to do
9 voice mails today half will be new leads, facebook messages and email leads to go with that
all welcome to come and see for yourselves what I am building

loving the hustle, set up a side business to help others with the knowledge I have
info@personalcoachinggroup.co.uk
www.personalcoachinggroup.co.uk
working some friends who have expertise in health and fitness, youth coaching.(which I have the diploma to go with)

currently working alongside my friends and business partners in Ukraine to set up a relaxing retreat accommodation for couples staying in shepherd huts and glamping pods in Odesa region, beautiful city by the way, thoroughly recommend

what else needs covering?

peace, love and karma to all

Er I'm sorry Danny but you have just completely blown it there.

What a load of absolute rubbish! It is very very clear to me you have no understanding of business at all.

So you turned over 76k with 6 staff and made 50% profit!!! Haha!!!  So that means each of your staff earned £6300.00 for the year. Oh and that doesn't account for any other expenses like running a van!!!

This is a bit like when you watch dragons den and it's all going well until the numbers bit and then we see they have no idea at all.

Danny your numbers simply don't add up mate. And believe me I should know. Each of my team turn over that much a year. 6!!! Lies mate just lies.

On the off chance this rubbish is true I put it to you that you have a terrible business and that a person would be mad to take any advice from you based on those numbers!

Ok now let me show you mine.

11 vans 9 currently out 2 more going out this year. Everyone purchased brand new and all with hot water.

£650,000.00 annual turnover

£800k target with 12 months

Profit on that is my business and I'm not telling so there.

2 full time office staff plus me, plus staffed call centre backing that up.

£100k spent last year on marketing

State of the art office and one of if not the biggest static filtration system in the country.

The only window cleaning company in the uk to deliver 1million leaflets in a year.

The first and only uk window cleaning company to advertise on TV.

So members of the forum, as long as you don't cover areas we do and are not someone that has been rude to me here in the past, you are welcome to contact my office any time for FREE advice on literally ANY aspect of running or growing your business.

Danny I won't be investing in you, I'm out!

haha nice one Lee Pryor, trump card played

The information does add up if I could explain it in text form properly

Dispite being a small business with small turnover or over a half of million turnover there is market out there for what I am offering with small costs.
I can help with start ups and somebody looking to grow as I have done that part myself now.im am currently taking with local jobcentre to offer this help free.
people that cant pay wont, people that can pay should. I'm not a schemer.

 I want to help the people who stop at the thought of asking/promoting their business.
Or avoid starting that business because of registration processes for whatever reason.
Or someone that needs an employee but doesn't because they think the payroll process is to much.
these small things really do stop people from achieving,. they look at Lee Pryors big business and their brain gets swamped thinking they have to be that today, tomorrow, next year.
 You are the type of person I would look to in a few years to help me get to where I want to be paid or free.
I still have a few levels to go before that Is considered,  I am offering the initial formation that would help others build and grow for their own business, if you could appreciate that?

I appreciate the offer of help for me or others from yourself, I have however found it hard over the years to freely obtain guidance from other small or big business. trust I have asked in many life situations and social media settings with no one willing to help honest truth! and two business support meetings I set up locally both let me down after having a day off to go meet them. went back to work after tho! perhaps that's why it was in cafes not at the office. both are big mentoring schemes, that I was willing to pay for too.
but having said that, it has led me work 'hard and smart' and found this great understanding of what I have done and am doing. so I would truly like to pass it on!
with regard to the numbers and the growth of your business,  you would understand about taking on the work and matching workers to take on that work  as you continue to grow. we are now at 6.
I'm definitely a actions more than words kind of person, and putting them into text is harder still.
Thank you for your comments
Danny
 

[֍Winp®oClean֍]

It all reminds me of someone who used to frequent this place some years ago. He had "his guys" and a "head office". Turned out his mate worked for him and the head office number belonged to a 3 bed semi on a housing estate! Funnily enough, he was a business guru/life coach too!! 
 Some proper tools been through here mind!

[Lee Pryor]

Ok ok.

Look Danny please dont think im being rude to you im really not. The figures you posted reveal a lot to me about your level of understanding because of the business I have built. Someone who only works alone and turns over 15K a year will come on here and not see the things I can see with what you have posted. I admire your aspiration but I think your a very long way from coming on here and putting yourself forward as a business advisor. Personally I think your the one that needs some advice based on those numbers.

Its clear you have achieved some things that others havnt and I take my hat off to you for that. I think your model has some very questionable points from what you have said.

Such as

Still being a sole trader at that level. You need a new accountant.

6 people doing not much. Why not 2 people full time.

Your predicted growth this year  is actually no growth at all once you start paying VAT

running 3 vans instead of just 1 which is all you need for that level of turnover. If your guys are part time just rotate each day with a different guy in 1 van.

I think you need a clearer understanding of what profit means. £76k turnover with 50% profit is not correct now is it.

[danny@thepersonalcoachinggroup]

I realise it seems that way but those numbers just dont add up.

In all fairness you asked last time......."Am i stupid or just taking a chance" (or similar) , when everyone said you're stupid then you spat your dummy out !!!   
haha no dummy spat out, read my comments like I'm having a normal calm convo
how is offering advice or guidance stupid with what I have done in a short space of time.
I'm thinking of away to put the staff to work to time thing into words

Danny is asking to "business mentor us" and needs a case example, hopefully from one of us i assume. He's just blew the best chance of a case example he had.. i.e his own !!!   

All good fun, beats watching Coronation St. , and i'll still be cleaning windows tomorrow while you're swivelling in your chair in the office and Danny is looking for his next victim/customer 

haha no dummy spat out, read my comments like I'm having a normal calm convo
how is offering advice or guidance stupid with what I have done in a short space of time.
I'm thinking of away to put the staff to work to time thing into words
I'm not offering to mentor/ support anyone who doesn't need it.
I'm not offering 0-£1million in one year stuff
it seems some people jump on things that are not for them. I appreciate you are trying to stop spamming or fake mentors etc
you could all offer what I'm offering but you clearly are the next steps up from what I am offering.

[danny@thepersonalcoachinggroup]

It all reminds me of someone who used to frequent this place some years ago. He had "his guys" and a "head office". Turned out his mate worked for him and the head office number belonged to a 3 bed semi on a housing estate! Funnily enough, he was a business guru/life coach too!! 
 Some proper tools been through here mind!

honestly I can help small business

[Marc Stock]

I agree Lee

 Im going to take these numbers with a pinch of salt though.

wow lions pit and all.....

You can't even get your own numbers right, never mind his !!!!!

Hey!!!! Below the belt bub!!!! at least i admit & correct them. Like i said my 4 year old son was jumping up and down on me trying to get my attention.

Ill send him over to you one day and see if you manage to concentrate.

[CleanClear]

I realise it seems that way but those numbers just dont add up.

In all fairness you asked last time......."Am i stupid or just taking a chance" (or similar) , when everyone said you're stupid then you spat your dummy out !!!   
haha no dummy spat out, read my comments like I'm having a normal calm convo
how is offering advice or guidance stupid with what I have done in a short space of time.
I'm thinking of away to put the staff to work to time thing into words

Danny is asking to "business mentor us" and needs a case example, hopefully from one of us i assume. He's just blew the best chance of a case example he had.. i.e his own !!!   

All good fun, beats watching Coronation St. , and i'll still be cleaning windows tomorrow while you're swivelling in your chair in the office and Danny is looking for his next victim/customer 

haha no dummy spat out, read my comments like I'm having a normal calm convo
how is offering advice or guidance stupid with what I have done in a short space of time.
I'm thinking of away to put the staff to work to time thing into words
I'm not offering to mentor/ support anyone who doesn't need it.
I'm not offering 0-£1million in one year stuff
it seems some people jump on things that are not for them. I appreciate you are trying to stop spamming or fake mentors etc
you could all offer what I'm offering but you clearly are the next steps up from what I am offering.

Danny, let me give you some advice. I responded to Lee Pryor, and you have resonded to me like i was speaking to you. I never said you spat your dummy out. You're gonna need to get to grips with this Social media thing........

[CleanClear]

I agree Lee

 Im going to take these numbers with a pinch of salt though.

wow lions pit and all.....

You can't even get your own numbers right, never mind his !!!!!

Hey!!!! Below the belt bub!!!! at least i admit & correct them. Like i said my 4 year old son was jumping up and down on me trying to get my attention.

Ill send him over to you one day and see if you manage to concentrate.

I can't even concentrate on my own !! And i'm no good with figures, i'm always getting my working tax credits form returned because i've usually done something or another wrong on it !!   

[CleanClear]

Danny, tell us more about... what was it , huts in Latvia or something ? That sounds more interesting......

[Lee Pryor]

It all reminds me of someone who used to frequent this place some years ago. He had "his guys" and a "head office". Turned out his mate worked for him and the head office number belonged to a 3 bed semi on a housing estate! Funnily enough, he was a business guru/life coach too!! 
 Some proper tools been through here mind!

honestly I can help small business

Danny its clear to me your a nice guy with aspiration who wants to help others. Well done and I hope you continue with your posetive attitude.

Its true I have spat my dummy in the past. Good for you for not doing the same. I wouldnt take your advice but I can appreciate a good guy when I see one.

Now I really am out. Hey....................... feel free to call me if you ever need some advice 

[Marc Stock]

I agree Lee

 Im going to take these numbers with a pinch of salt though.

wow lions pit and all.....

You can't even get your own numbers right, never mind his !!!!!

Hey!!!! Below the belt bub!!!! at least i admit & correct them. Like i said my 4 year old son was jumping up and down on me trying to get my attention.

Ill send him over to you one day and see if you manage to concentrate.

I can't even concentrate on my own !! And i'm no good with figures, i'm always getting my working tax credits form returned because i've usually done something or another wrong on it !!   

  well of course we are all knuckle draggers anyway so what the hell....

Danny, tell us more about... what was it , huts in Latvia or something ? That sounds more interesting......

[danny@thepersonalcoachinggroup]

Ok ok.

Look Danny please dont think im being rude to you im really not. The figures you posted reveal a lot to me about your level of understanding because of the business I have built. Someone who only works alone and turns over 15K a year will come on here and not see the things I can see with what you have posted. I admire your aspiration but I think your a very long way from coming on here and putting yourself forward as a business advisor. Personally I think your the one that needs some advice based on those numbers.

Its clear you have achieved some things that others havnt and I take my hat off to you for that. I think your model has some very questionable points from what you have said.

Such as

Still being a sole trader at that level. You need a new accountant.

6 people doing not much. Why not 2 people full time.

Your predicted growth this year  is actually no growth at all once you start paying VAT

running 3 vans instead of just 1 which is all you need for that level of turnover. If your guys are part time just rotate each day with a different guy in 1 van.

I think you need a clearer understanding of what profit means. £76k turnover with 50% profit is not correct now is it.

no Lee I don't think you were being rude at all and please don't think I am trying to be rude or read my comments as bitchy comebacks. I totally agree with what you are saying
hold back on the numbers because I cannot put into words what I am doing with regard to how many workers I have now to do the projected work and how many were doing the work last year, year before etc. that might put it better anyways:) I pull the work in, in advance knowing I will fill that slot with an employee or two, plus giving myself pressure to stay relevant and continue to add to the round. that was better again I think. so my projection is to get get to 150/170 with 6. with me? better wages will come with that,
also with regard to vat I understand that I will lose at the start this is accounted for by my focus and determination to get the balance of turnover/profit back up.
I am completely happy to lose a portion for a while. I get it don't worry.
if this is not the place to find someone who needs assistance to go through what I have experienced these past few years then I appreciate I'm preaching to the converted obvs.
I will not be sitting In an office giving advice I will be working one to one alongside the client on the ground. do you think that would work? I found saying a showing by actions are two very different things .