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danny@thepersonalcoachinggroup

  • Posts: 35
Re: business start ups and growth
« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2017, 08:53:53 pm »
Hi Danny, welcome.
I think Danny is looking to give advice on growing a business to the next level using  goal setting, planning, branding etc etc rather than advice on equipment etc etc.
I believe there is a lot more to running a growing window cleaning business than meets the eye.
Any help on such matters should be greatly appreciated if Danny is offering them for free. Someone might pick up on one comment that transforms his or her business.
This is just my opinion, I don't know Danny from Adam.

Phew Cheers David! I don't know Adam either:)
yes I am offering for free, my knowledge and 2ps worth on platforms in  asking  or answering.
 I do charge for meeting in a life or business setting doing the actual ground work. (only deposit fee until work is finish and signed off)
but yes there are bigger business that know more or different or better. until i or they share that nobody benefits paid or otherwise I suppose.  I have some very valuable things to offer.
I have picked up many lessons in life some free some paid for

David Kent @ KentKleen

  • Posts: 1712
Re: business start ups and growth
« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2017, 09:15:01 pm »
No problem at all Danny. Working smarter not harder is what I have been implementing the last couple of years. My window cleaning business is 7 years young but has come on leaps and bounds the last couple of years through clear goal setting and planning. The next 2 years are already planned out with weekly and monthly new customer targets set along with a plan of action to hit them. Far cry from my first brodex aluminium pole and Vikan brush!! Still remember turning up at my first customers house!
I'm all for personal development and goal setting.
Onwards and upwards!

CleanClear

  • Posts: 14600
Re: business start ups and growth
« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2017, 10:23:38 pm »
Kevin Dubrosky- The Whale Vomit Method. Another ex window cleaner apparently.
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danny@thepersonalcoachinggroup

  • Posts: 35
Re: business start ups and growth
« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2017, 10:24:28 pm »
to use the term kick up the arse is ok I suppose.
as long as I dont get judged as bad or spammy if the businesses I help go from £12,000 per year to £20/30/40,000
it will happen!!!
but its also about everything from work/life balance, small business building, showing how to get passed those mental, physical and financial barriers.
I will have blogs and case studies up and running soon so I will keep you all posted
I can show eyes where to look, ears where to listen, when and where to act/react
some people misjudge the signs and opportunity is missed
I will explain.....
as an individual we are the best promotion and advert for our business. if we find that genuine love for what we do, it shows in our actions, we will positively and openly talk about our business in most situations (without banging on about it)
window cleaners have a hard sell instantly as there have been and are loads of dodgy ones. so giving a fresh open view of ourselves is a big hurdle jumped in making a connection with the public.
many many many things we can do to change that image 


danny@thepersonalcoachinggroup

  • Posts: 35
Re: business start ups and growth
« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2017, 10:35:02 pm »
No problem at all Danny. Working smarter not harder is what I have been implementing the last couple of years. My window cleaning business is 7 years young but has come on leaps and bounds the last couple of years through clear goal setting and planning. The next 2 years are already planned out with weekly and monthly new customer targets set along with a plan of action to hit them. Far cry from my first brodex aluminium pole and Vikan brush!! Still remember turning up at my first customers house!
I'm all for personal development and goal setting.
Onwards and upwards!

exactly brodex pole and vikan brush(fook knows) but we all start somewhere with what we have. I started with some old tools, the applicator flopping off either end through the holes and the squeegee rubber was about 2 months old. learn and grow!

Lee Pryor

  • Posts: 2287
Re: business start ups and growth
« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2017, 10:52:59 pm »
Danny please tell us what size your business is at now please. What is your monthly turnover, how many staff/vans ect.

I really think if people want business growth and strategy advice, they should get it from someone that's been there and achieved the level that person aspires to.
The best way to predict the future is to create it.

G Griffin

  • Posts: 40745
Re: business start ups and growth
« Reply #26 on: April 18, 2017, 12:25:33 am »
Danny, I'm thinking of starting a pole vaulting school for sausage dogs.
Can you see it getting off the ground? Do I need to raise the bar?
And I need some business advice, too.
⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

supernova77

  • Posts: 3547
Re: business start ups and growth
« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2017, 12:39:27 am »
Danny please tell us what size your business is at now please. What is your monthly turnover, how many staff/vans ect.

I really think if people want business growth and strategy advice, they should get it from someone that's been there and achieved the level that person aspires to.

Hi Lee

What's your monthly turnover, and your monthly expenditure?

How many staff do you have?   How many vans?

I would be interested to know, as scaling up a window cleaning business with good regular repeat work and keeping good reliable staff on board and making it all pay  is not easy.

Andy

dazmond

  • Posts: 23918
Re: business start ups and growth
« Reply #28 on: April 18, 2017, 07:45:45 am »
to use the term kick up the arse is ok I suppose.
as long as I dont get judged as bad or spammy if the businesses I help go from £12,000 per year to £20/30/40,000
it will happen!!!
but its also about everything from work/life balance, small business building, showing how to get passed those mental, physical and financial barriers.
I will have blogs and case studies up and running soon so I will keep you all posted
I can show eyes where to look, ears where to listen, when and where to act/react
some people misjudge the signs and opportunity is missed
I will explain.....
as an individual we are the best promotion and advert for our business. if we find that genuine love for what we do, it shows in our actions, we will positively and openly talk about our business in most situations (without banging on about it)
window cleaners have a hard sell instantly as there have been and are loads of dodgy ones. so giving a fresh open view of ourselves is a big hurdle jumped in making a connection with the public.
many many many things we can do to change that image


some window cleaners though just have no common sense,inner drive or a good solid work ethic.all the advice in the world couldnt make them successful.
price higher/work harder!

Stoots

  • Posts: 6184
Re: business start ups and growth
« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2017, 08:00:37 am »
to use the term kick up the arse is ok I suppose.
as long as I dont get judged as bad or spammy if the businesses I help go from £12,000 per year to £20/30/40,000
it will happen!!!
but its also about everything from work/life balance, small business building, showing how to get passed those mental, physical and financial barriers.
I will have blogs and case studies up and running soon so I will keep you all posted
I can show eyes where to look, ears where to listen, when and where to act/react
some people misjudge the signs and opportunity is missed
I will explain.....
as an individual we are the best promotion and advert for our business. if we find that genuine love for what we do, it shows in our actions, we will positively and openly talk about our business in most situations (without banging on about it)
window cleaners have a hard sell instantly as there have been and are loads of dodgy ones. so giving a fresh open view of ourselves is a big hurdle jumped in making a connection with the public.
many many many things we can do to change that image


some window cleaners though just have no common sense,inner drive or a good solid work ethic.all the advice in the world couldnt make them successful.

Exactly why complicate it.

Decide what you want to achieve
Decide how you are going to achieve it

Then simply put one foot in front of the other till it's done. You will need determination and persistence to push through the many barriers and obstacles and will need to adapt your plan as you go to fit the circumstances which arise.

In other words work hard, smart and don't quit and you will succeed. There's no rocket science involved.

Dry Clean

  • Posts: 8852
Re: business start ups and growth
« Reply #30 on: April 18, 2017, 09:14:52 am »
to use the term kick up the arse is ok I suppose.
as long as I dont get judged as bad or spammy if the businesses I help go from £12,000 per year to £20/30/40,000
it will happen!!!
but its also about everything from work/life balance, small business building, showing how to get passed those mental, physical and financial barriers.
I will have blogs and case studies up and running soon so I will keep you all posted
I can show eyes where to look, ears where to listen, when and where to act/react
some people misjudge the signs and opportunity is missed
I will explain.....
as an individual we are the best promotion and advert for our business. if we find that genuine love for what we do, it shows in our actions, we will positively and openly talk about our business in most situations (without banging on about it)
window cleaners have a hard sell instantly as there have been and are loads of dodgy ones. so giving a fresh open view of ourselves is a big hurdle jumped in making a connection with the public.
many many many things we can do to change that image


some window cleaners though just have no common sense,inner drive or a good solid work ethic.all the advice in the world couldnt make them successful.

Exactly why complicate it.

Decide what you want to achieve
Decide how you are going to achieve it

Then simply put one foot in front of the other till it's done. You will need determination and persistence to push through the many barriers and obstacles and will need to adapt your plan as you go to fit the circumstances which arise.

In other words work hard, smart and don't quit and you will succeed. There's no rocket science involved.

That's way too simple Adam, its totally right but it needs a lot more buzz words if your going to get somebody to pay for the
advice.
You need to be able to turn that one line into a five day coaching/training course.

Lee Pryor

  • Posts: 2287
Re: business start ups and growth
« Reply #31 on: April 18, 2017, 09:17:09 am »
Danny please tell us what size your business is at now please. What is your monthly turnover, how many staff/vans ect.

I really think if people want business growth and strategy advice, they should get it from someone that's been there and achieved the level that person aspires to.

Hi Lee

What's your monthly turnover, and your monthly expenditure?

How many staff do you have?   How many vans?

I would be interested to know, as scaling up a window cleaning business with good regular repeat work and keeping good reliable staff on board and making it all pay  is not easy.

Andy

I wasn't saying that I am the person to give that advice.

I'm just asking Danny what qualifies him to.

In my opinion the best person to give that kind of business advice is the person that has achieved it themselves. That has been there and done it.
The best way to predict the future is to create it.

Dry Clean

  • Posts: 8852
Re: business start ups and growth
« Reply #32 on: April 18, 2017, 09:55:06 am »
Danny please tell us what size your business is at now please. What is your monthly turnover, how many staff/vans ect.

I really think if people want business growth and strategy advice, they should get it from someone that's been there and achieved the level that person aspires to.

Hi Lee

What's your monthly turnover, and your monthly expenditure?

How many staff do you have?   How many vans?

I would be interested to know, as scaling up a window cleaning business with good regular repeat work and keeping good reliable staff on board and making it all pay  is not easy.

Andy

I wasn't saying that I am the person to give that advice.

I'm just asking Danny what qualifies him to.

In my opinion the best person to give that kind of business advice is the person that has achieved it themselves. That has been there and done it.

Chances are there wont be a single person on here who's been there and done it in the same way,  competition, work available, achievable pricing, cash flow and so on will mean one persons road to success could be totally different to another's.
Its why you get so many conflicting opinions on here.
The vast majority of business advisors wont have started their own business but will be qualified in advertising/ marketing, dealing with customers and the financial side of running a business.
Information to them is money as is reputation, so you certainly wont be getting any reputable business advisor coming on here  pretending to give out free advice with the intention of signing you up to the paid information.
Avoid how to be successful courses including books as they just pedal rubbish to dreamers and  serial losers.




Lee Pryor

  • Posts: 2287
Re: business start ups and growth
« Reply #33 on: April 18, 2017, 10:21:36 am »
Danny please tell us what size your business is at now please. What is your monthly turnover, how many staff/vans ect.

I really think if people want business growth and strategy advice, they should get it from someone that's been there and achieved the level that person aspires to.

Hi Lee

What's your monthly turnover, and your monthly expenditure?

How many staff do you have?   How many vans?

I would be interested to know, as scaling up a window cleaning business with good regular repeat work and keeping good reliable staff on board and making it all pay  is not easy.

Andy

I wasn't saying that I am the person to give that advice.

I'm just asking Danny what qualifies him to.

In my opinion the best person to give that kind of business advice is the person that has achieved it themselves. That has been there and done it.

Chances are there wont be a single person on here who's been there and done it in the same way,  competition, work available, achievable pricing, cash flow and so on will mean one persons road to success could be totally different to another's.
Its why you get so many conflicting opinions on here.
The vast majority of business advisors wont have started their own business but will be qualified in advertising/ marketing, dealing with customers and the financial side of running a business.
Information to them is money as is reputation, so you certainly wont be getting any reputable business advisor coming on here  pretending to give out free advice with the intention of signing you up to the paid information.
Avoid how to be successful courses including books as they just pedal rubbish to dreamers and  serial losers.

Exactly.
The best way to predict the future is to create it.

slap bash

  • Posts: 1366
Re: business start ups and growth
« Reply #34 on: April 18, 2017, 11:17:58 am »
One of the things that so many coming into this business underestimate, is the amount of effort it will take to find a business. I find a pattern with all-newcomer to this business there is plenty of focus on equipment, van and how much per hour. Yet ignoring selling your service and all that goes along with this major task find customers. This fact leads to negativity, disillusionment and familiar.
The ability to sell one`s service is the last thing one`s mind and how good you will be at it. Cleani ng glass is the total easy part. Having the skill to deal with people is the talent you will need to master to be a succuss at this game.

slap bash

  • Posts: 1366
Re: business start ups and growth
« Reply #35 on: April 18, 2017, 11:33:18 am »
Danny please tell us what size your business is at now please. What is your monthly turnover, how many staff/vans ect.
I really think if people want business growth and strategy advice, they should get it from someone that's been there and achieved the level that person aspires to.

Hi Lee

What's your monthly turnover, and your monthly expenditure?

How many staff do you have?   How many vans?

I would be interested to know, as scaling up a window cleaning business with good regular repeat work and keeping good reliable staff on board and making it all pay  is not easy.

Andy

I wasn't saying that I am the person to give that advice.

I'm just asking Danny what qualifies him to.

In my opinion the best person to give that kind of business advice is the person that has achieved it themselves. That has been there and done it.

Chances are there wont be a single person on here who's been there and done it in the same way,  competition, work available, achievable pricing, cash flow and so on will mean one persons road to success could be totally different to another's.
Its why you get so many conflicting opinions on here.
The vast majority of business advisors wont have started their own business but will be qualified in advertising/ marketing, dealing with customers and the financial side of running a business.
Information to them is money as is reputation, so you certainly wont be getting any reputable business advisor coming on here  pretending to give out free advice with the intention of signing you up to the paid information.
Avoid how to be successful courses including books as they just pedal rubbish to dreamers and  serial losers.

Exactly.

My wife`s company she works for has been taken over by new people and her lady boss is qualified in marketing. He, the male boss. is a business advisor and to be honest they have made every mistake they could of. Their staff is all fed up and on the verge of leaving. They came in and within one month changed the total workings of the business without even knowing their operation format of business.If just one member of staff leaves being a service business they will sink and take all their jobs with them.Which would cost them the house as it's in as collateral on their business loan? Talking about these experts, it's all book knowledge.

Marc Stock

Re: business start ups and growth
« Reply #36 on: April 18, 2017, 12:03:47 pm »
Armchair expert I think we have here.

Danny I'm done on this thread if you can't answer these questions

Like I have asked before, what is your current turnover vs profit?

How many years experience do you have in business in general?

What is your age group?

You should be able to answer those questions if you are so brilliant at what you do.

danny@thepersonalcoachinggroup

  • Posts: 35
Re: business start ups and growth
« Reply #37 on: April 18, 2017, 06:24:30 pm »
AdamThompson
8 Weekly
Lee pryor
k.diver
nathankaye
Marc Stock
G Griffin

and relax.....
sorry for the late reply just got to sit down at the comp
Danny Wiseman age 34
started in 07 worked like a typical window cleaner for years doing bits and bobs and finding every excuse not to work
3 years ago I said lets do it and built so far too...........
Dans Windows
info@danswindows.co.uk
www.danswindows.co.uk
facebook/danswindows
3 vans
6 people working as full time as we can(weather permitted, paid holidays, illnesses, family duties)tips given on employing and dealing with staff needs
£76,0000 turnover last financial year, 50% profit- tips given on marketing, branding and personal development
£110,000 projected work on cleaner planner site set out for next year provided we stay as we are
not updated with the £180 job we did today that is every month
or the endless list of work I have to get to price
not included gutter and conservatory cleans lots would like us to do
9 voice mails today half will be new leads, facebook messages and email leads to go with that
all welcome to come and see for yourselves what I am building

loving the hustle, set up a side business to help others with the knowledge I have
info@personalcoachinggroup.co.uk
www.personalcoachinggroup.co.uk
working some friends who have expertise in health and fitness, youth coaching.(which I have the diploma to go with)

currently working alongside my friends and business partners in Ukraine to set up a relaxing retreat accommodation for couples staying in shepherd huts and glamping pods in Odesa region, beautiful city by the way, thoroughly recommend

what else needs covering?

peace, love and karma to all



danny@thepersonalcoachinggroup

  • Posts: 35
Re: business start ups and growth
« Reply #38 on: April 18, 2017, 06:31:52 pm »
AdamThompson
8 Weekly
Lee pryor
k.diver
nathankaye
Marc Stock
G Griffin

and relax.....
sorry for the late reply just got to sit down at the comp
Danny Wiseman age 34
started in 07 worked like a typical window cleaner for years doing bits and bobs and finding every excuse not to work
3 years ago I said lets do it and built so far too...........
Dans Windows
info@danswindows.co.uk
www.danswindows.co.uk
facebook/danswindows
3 vans
6 people working as full time as we can(weather permitted, paid holidays, illnesses, family duties)tips given on employing and dealing with staff needs
£76,0000 turnover last financial year, 50% profit- tips given on marketing, branding and personal development
£110,000 projected work on cleaner planner site set out for next year provided we stay as we are
not updated with the £180 job we did today that is every month
or the endless list of work I have to get to price
not included gutter and conservatory cleans lots would like us to do
9 voice mails today half will be new leads, facebook messages and email leads to go with that
all welcome to come and see for yourselves what I am building

loving the hustle, set up a side business to help others with the knowledge I have
info@personalcoachinggroup.co.uk
www.personalcoachinggroup.co.uk
working some friends who have expertise in health and fitness, youth coaching.(which I have the diploma to go with)
currently working alongside my friends and business partners in Ukraine to set up a relaxing retreat accommodation for couples staying in shepherd huts and glamping pods in Odesa region, beautiful city by the way, thoroughly recommend

what else needs covering?

peace, love and karma to all

oh and I watched a motivational video once............

֍Winp®oClean֍

  • Posts: 1685
Re: business start ups and growth
« Reply #39 on: April 18, 2017, 06:32:15 pm »
£76k turnover with 6 employees..... am I missing something?
Comfortably Numb!