Thank fully this forum is a good place for them to look as its full of great advice and what can be achieved. A huge majority on here have been in this job for a good number of years and thats why we can take it a little easier now, talk how many houses we can do in a day or a tabboo subject "prices" because weve worked damn hard to get it how we have now and perhaps reaping the added rewards. Whilst at same time acknowledging how newbies might find it in a saturated market. But when i started off and im sure im not alone, we didnt offer free cleans to build a round or badly undercut or knowingly undercut others just to get a foot in