[sunshine windows]

On a more serious note, how much is aworka at its premium level of service compared to cleanerplanner. Between 5 of us we pay a fair bit each month to CP.

[8weekly]

On a more serious note, how much is aworka at its premium level of service compared to cleanerplanner. Between 5 of us we pay a fair bit each month to CP.

£5 per additional user.

[windowswashed]

I tried window cleaner pro, had problems with it, in the end I gave up on it. I've always used George as it's a program you buy once and own it and best of all you don't have to  rely on someone else to keep your program running if it fails.
Aworka is a good price for what it offers compared to cleaner planner which I feel is overly priced considering you  only rent it.
I can text every customer I need to in minutes using copy and paste and sending to multiple numbers in one go just using my phone address book.  Gradually adding new customers and ensuring they pay online or BACS costs me nothing each month in handling charges.
Can't justify £25 a month each month to line some developing software programmer's pockets. I would have happily trialled cleaner planner and if it was  beneficial I would happily buy it if it saves time, but not prepared to  pay out each month for what I can do sufficiently using trusted and reliable George.

[Dave Willis]

Cleaner Planner just gets slower and slower, I gave up on the mobile app a year ago at least, it was poor. End of year reports are poor too compared to George, there should be one click to print all.
Probably stick with it for now as I can't be bothered with swapping it all over to Aworka again.

[Shrek]

Iv just been looking at George and it's not bad for a one off payment of £50

[dazmond]

Cleaner Planner just gets slower and slower, I gave up on the mobile app a year ago at least, it was poor. End of year reports are poor too compared to George, there should be one click to print all.
Probably stick with it for now as I can't be bothered with swapping it all over to Aworka again.

it must be something to do with your internet connection dave? i dont think CP is slow at all.in fact its 2000 times better than using a palm device and  the george program.

it takes seconds to upload and download latest data using the mobile app for me.i like it as its virtually effortless.i like how i can add a new job on the app when im out and about and i can slot it in the round order i prefer.

adding temporary notes to worksheets on the app too is very handy.i dont have any problems with CP.I had quite a few with george over the years.i think its worth the £18 a month.

[8weekly]

Cleaner Planner just gets slower and slower, I gave up on the mobile app a year ago at least, it was poor. End of year reports are poor too compared to George, there should be one click to print all.
Probably stick with it for now as I can't be bothered with swapping it all over to Aworka again.

it must be something to do with your internet connection dave? i dont think CP is slow at all.in fact its 2000 times better than using a palm device and  the george program.

it takes seconds to upload and download latest data using the mobile app for me.i like it as its virtually effortless.i like how i can add a new job on the app when im out and about and i can slot it in the round order i prefer.

adding temporary notes to worksheets on the app too is very handy.i dont have any problems with CP.I had quite a few with george over the years.i think its worth the £18 a month.

When I tried it last time it was very slow.

[p1w1]

I've had the odd time we're it's slow on the main program but it's never been slow in regards to the app or it connecting to the internet ever.
Agree with Daz it's must be something at your end.
Great piece of software and a reasonable price too

[mufcglen]

found cleaner planner slow and overpriced, Aworka been spot on for me

[andi wilson]

I like CP, but agree it is painfully slow.. And sometimes it freezes altogether... Grrrr...

[Arnold Palmer]

The silence in here is deafening...

[Susan Dean (1stclean)]

well that didn't last long boys did it ? guess there not flavour of the months any more remeber the same on here about window cleaning pro boom then bust whos next then to be the best thing in the world of window cleaning programs

[Michael Peterson]

I have used george, aworka,cleanerplanner and wcp, i like cleanerplanner the best but really it needs to continue developing i will try others if it stays where it is

[slap bash]

All these programs come in,  promise the world. Then when they find out its not big money for them, they loose interest and stop development until it dies. They need to produce other platforms for other trades to use.Do I need to spell it out.

[8weekly]

All these programs come in,  promise the world. Then when they find out its not big money for them, they loose interest and stop development until it dies. They need to produce other platforms for other trades to use.Do I need to spell it out.

There are still pretty regularl developments on Aworka

[Tosh]

All these programs come in,  promise the world. Then when they find out its not big money for them, they loose interest and stop development until it dies. They need to produce other platforms for other trades to use.Do I need to spell it out.

I suspect CP got so big it became too big, required too much time, which would explain why it's forum was shut down. They simply didn't like relying on one income stream and have other projects that they need to work on generating  income.

 Anyway I've just paid my last monthly subscription to Cleaner Planner for a little while I've gone over to a Aworka.  It does exactly the same as Cleaner Planner one third of the price

[Arnold Palmer]

well that didn't last long boys did it ? guess there not flavour of the months any more remeber the same on here about window cleaning pro boom then bust whos next then to be the best thing in the world of window cleaning programs

None of them have gone bust, so far as I'm aware?

[concept]

I pointed Rob in the direction of this thread, and various points discussed over time, and he assures me CP is very keen to continue development, and is currently prioritising a number of features requested by users.

With a few tweaks and a few additions, CP will be untouchable, if it's not already.

[tlwcs]

I pointed Rob in the direction of this thread, and various points discussed over time, and he assures me CP is very keen to continue development, and is currently prioritising a number of features requested by users.

With a few tweaks and a few additions, CP will be untouchable, if it's not already.

See Slacys post above.  😁

[Pete Thompson]

and he assures me CP is very keen to continue development, and is currently prioritising a number of features requested by users.

The only thing he's keen on is receiving the monthly payments from us, so that he can pay his mortgage while he works on other things.

I've seen this happen before with window cleaning software, CleanerPlanner has begun it's slow and painful death spiral.

I could understand it with Window Cleaner Pro because there was no monthly fee, hence no incentive to keep up, but charging a monthly fee (and so getting a continuous income stream) from CP AND letting customers down with an increasingly unreliable and substandard product is just unacceptable IMO.

It could be the way the software is structured, it's just not properly scalable and so more users will make it ever slower and there's nothing that can be done without re-writing the whole thing completely. (fat chance of that).