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nathankaye

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Re: heating water update
« Reply #80 on: February 25, 2017, 09:03:28 am »
I was going to do a video, as i havent seen a  "how to" video on installing one in a water fed tank. But then i thought if anything goes wrong, do i want to film it and so decided against it.   ;D  ;D 
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HCS

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Re: heating water update
« Reply #81 on: February 27, 2017, 05:45:36 pm »
Hi Nathan,

Glad you managed to fit the immersion heater.
 did you use any silicone or similar to prevent leaks?

Cheers mate

nathankaye

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Re: heating water update
« Reply #82 on: February 27, 2017, 08:41:41 pm »
Hi Nathan,

Glad you managed to fit the immersion heater.
 did you use any silicone or similar to prevent leaks?

Cheers mate

No, the hole needed filing/sanding after i cut it. It really is a tight fit and then just used ptf tape. However next day i did notice quite a bit of water in my van, but went to work as i was going away fri eve. So todays had been the first look at what went wrong. Simply a school boy error. I didnt tighten the mechanical flange tight enough. Once i retightened the flange and put the immersion in nice and tight, i dont appear to have any leaks.
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Tosh

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Re: heating water update
« Reply #83 on: February 27, 2017, 09:31:05 pm »
You will. Give it time, once you get in your 50’s you never pass a public toilet without popping in.
*A HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE - THE SHORT STORY* 'Hydrogen is a light, odorless gas, which, given enough time, turns into people.'

nathankaye

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Re: heating water update
« Reply #84 on: March 06, 2017, 10:41:47 am »
Had a bit of spar time this morning before starting work and so did a little vid of temp coming out tank from bottom to my hose.

Tank temp is 40 degrees C And im sure if i had a third arm to hold stick in cup to read as water went in, im sure it eould read same,   but......well watch vid to see temp at bottom of tank and see if after all these debates on here are right or not

https://youtu.be/OriTje5Vc2E
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Smurf

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Re: heating water update
« Reply #85 on: March 06, 2017, 10:58:39 am »
Thanks for posting Nathan.

Would be also interesting to see what temp the water is after running through a 100m hose reel and out the end of a wfp to get a better Idea of the actually working temp on the glass..

nathankaye

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Re: heating water update
« Reply #86 on: March 06, 2017, 12:43:47 pm »
Thanks for posting Nathan.

Would be also interesting to see what temp the water is after running through a 100m hose reel and out the end of a wfp to get a better Idea of the actually working temp on the glass..b

Oki  doki.
As i need to finish early as something has came up i thought i would sort that out, however it easnt easy as in a hurry. So in end i had to press hold button so hou could make temp out, but it will become evident when watching vid. Again it was still slowly creeping up but i couldnt be arsed getting soaked for that.
This was set at the speed in which i have the flow when working, so its set at 70. Dont think u can make that out on vid when i say it.

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Re: heating water update
« Reply #87 on: March 06, 2017, 01:32:24 pm »
Thanks for posting Nathan.

Would be also interesting to see what temp the water is after running through a 100m hose reel and out the end of a wfp to get a better Idea of the actually working temp on the glass..b

Oki  doki.
As i need to finish early as something has came up i thought i would sort that out, however it easnt easy as in a hurry. So in end i had to press hold button so hou could make temp out, but it will become evident when watching vid. Again it was still slowly creeping up but i couldnt be arsed getting soaked for that.
This was set at the speed in which i have the flow when working, so its set at 70. Dont think u can make that out on vid when i say it.

https://youtu.be/dCcHINNk0bY

Nice one. ..Nathan you must now  find your job easier using that sort of temp than just using  cold?
 

nathankaye

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Re: heating water update
« Reply #88 on: March 06, 2017, 01:44:21 pm »
Absolutely.....think i mentioned it on an earlier post, that ive joined the many who at first couldnt see the point, but know that i have, theres no turning back!!

My friend whos left window cleaning (was on wfp) laughed and said its warming up now so pipes wont freeze, youve wasted time.............who cares was my response. Its not just the warmth of the pole or the ease of the hoses as to why ive done this. It does make a difference in cleaning.
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Re: heating water update
« Reply #89 on: March 06, 2017, 01:50:58 pm »
Absolutely.....think i mentioned it on an earlier post, that ive joined the many who at first couldnt see the point, but know that i have, theres no turning back!!

My friend whos left window cleaning (was on wfp) laughed and said its warming up now so pipes wont freeze, youve wasted time.............who cares was my response. Its not just the warmth of the pole or the ease of the hoses as to why ive done this. It does make a difference in cleaning.

Since my fastar sprung  a water leak last weak I'm now in two minds to also have a play and fit an immersion heater to an old wydale tank I've got kicking about. lol

nathankaye

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Re: heating water update
« Reply #90 on: March 06, 2017, 04:01:25 pm »


It is by far the safest way of heating water.
However the reason for having to cut my day short is that i sprung a leak as well. Water pouring out where immersion was. As can see perhaps from photo, it leaked at the bottom part, so ive had to hack away at the wood to get to it. Ran some plumbers bait around it and problem solved. However for good measure ive ran alot of it around and also had some exhaust paste and put that round too. Put immersion on for half hr with what waters left in tank, in order for paste to set as not taking chances in future. No more leaks and checked temp inside of tank (about 200litres left in) and it was 50 degrees.
No more leaks and i expect to het no more. So if going down this route, use plenty of sealant
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Smurf

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Re: heating water update
« Reply #91 on: March 06, 2017, 04:46:19 pm »
If that is the case I will probably pay a plumber to fit one as can't be doing with all that hassle. If then starts to leak I will give him a good telling off. lol

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Re: heating water update
« Reply #92 on: March 07, 2017, 08:09:31 am »


It is by far the safest way of heating water.
However the reason for having to cut my day short is that i sprung a leak as well. Water pouring out where immersion was. As can see perhaps from photo, it leaked at the bottom part, so ive had to hack away at the wood to get to it. Ran some plumbers bait around it and problem solved. However for good measure ive ran alot of it around and also had some exhaust paste and put that round too. Put immersion on for half hr with what waters left in tank, in order for paste to set as not taking chances in future. No more leaks and checked temp inside of tank (about 200litres left in) and it was 50 degrees.
No more leaks and i expect to het no more. So if going down this route, use plenty of sealant

No, just do it correctly. I use no sealant at all and never had a drop leak. A sealant- particularly applied from the outside in-situ, will be prone to failure IMO.
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Re: heating water update
« Reply #93 on: March 07, 2017, 08:59:37 am »
I don't see a mechanical flange on that picture (unless I put mine in back to front). Can't be much thread poking through the tank to screw that to?

nathankaye

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Re: heating water update
« Reply #94 on: March 07, 2017, 09:27:09 am »
I don't see a mechanical flange on that picture (unless I put mine in back to front). Can't be much thread poking through the tank to screw that to?

Lol i did wonder why everyone said a mechanical flange as the thread is larger than the normal thread but not by a massive amount. Unless like you must have done, put it in back to front, which sounds like a better option.
However with the seal taken off and a tight hole, there is enough thread once fully tightened.
I didnt use any sealant on the inside tank as i was concerned with any affect on the tds of the water. I dont think i had enough ptf on thread and so sprung a leak. But i didnt want to fully drain my tank to sort the issue and so went with plumbers bait and then a sealant to harden when immersion heated up, just to be on safe side.
Checked on it this morning, water temp upto 49 degrees and the seal is holding back half a tonne of water and so problem fixed.
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Re: heating water update
« Reply #95 on: March 07, 2017, 01:34:55 pm »
Not sure you have the flange the right way Nath unless they have changed design. Mine looks like this with the big nut on the outside.

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nathankaye

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Re: heating water update
« Reply #96 on: March 07, 2017, 02:11:44 pm »
 ;D  ;D  lol look at us comparing nuts!! Hahaha

Yep its on the outside, just the angle of my rod was hiding the nut......... ;D
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Re: heating water update
« Reply #97 on: March 07, 2017, 03:49:47 pm »
Cool. 8)
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nathankaye

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Re: heating water update
« Reply #98 on: March 07, 2017, 03:58:38 pm »
;D  ;D  lol look at us comparing nuts!! Hahaha

Yep its on the outside, just the angle of my rod was hiding the nut......... ;D

Yep would help if i included the picture i was intending on doing

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Re: heating water update
« Reply #99 on: March 07, 2017, 04:20:12 pm »
So is it now leak free or are you going to be talking nuts for a while. lol

I wondered why you chose to drill a 64mm hole then had make it bigger when Mark M used a 65mm cutter from the get go?