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nathankaye

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Re: heating water update
« Reply #40 on: February 17, 2017, 11:17:18 pm »
Any chance of a link Nathan of the element and accessories you purchased and also do you use installation on your tank cheers

I used www.heatrodshop.com to buy the element. Initially a 1kw 27" in domestic section and then contacted them to swap it for a 2kw one. I also ordered the immersion element spanner from them as well. I did order the flange nut from them before i remembered everyone said its best with a mechanical flange which i ordered from toolstation.

Yes my tank is insulated with foiled bubblewrap insulation wraped around a couple of times.
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nathankaye

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Re: heating water update
« Reply #41 on: February 18, 2017, 10:08:42 am »


Just to show the space age silver lined bubblewrap on tank
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Re: heating water update
« Reply #42 on: February 18, 2017, 07:01:33 pm »
Looks good Nathan, was it easy to install your element and also where did you get the foil wrap from cheers

nathankaye

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Re: heating water update
« Reply #43 on: February 18, 2017, 07:33:07 pm »
Ive nit installed it as of yet. Hopefully im takling that one tomorrow, after i paid BnQ a visit today for some suitable electrical cable and plug. Non of my mates had any circular drill bits either so had to buy them, going with a 64mm bit (i think it was) for the initial hole. I think that should help give it a tight fit, but guess i'll find out.

The wrap, i was fortunate with that. My local Aldi had it in just before last winter, at a great price.
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Smurf

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Re: heating water update
« Reply #44 on: February 19, 2017, 01:17:03 pm »
This vid may help as if you don't want to get the size wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxrgYEurE3A

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Re: heating water update
« Reply #45 on: February 19, 2017, 01:29:44 pm »
Ive nit installed it as of yet. Hopefully im takling that one tomorrow, after i paid BnQ a visit today for some suitable electrical cable and plug. Non of my mates had any circular drill bits either so had to buy them, going with a 64mm bit (i think it was) for the initial hole. I think that should help give it a tight fit, but guess i'll find out.

The wrap, i was fortunate with that. My local Aldi had it in just before last winter, at a great price.

You have the correct hole cutter- it is 64mm for the mechanical flange. It may be a very tight fit, which to be honest, doesn't really matter when using a Proper flange as you have some tolerance. You might find that you have to sand/file the hole a little as it may be a little too tight to begin with. On the back part of the flange- the part that will be fitted inside the tank, you should see Three little raised bumps. If you file a little flat spot on the "side" of each of these bumps they will "bite" into the plastic and you'll probably find that you can fully tighten the outside nut without having to hold the inside part- just makes the job a lot easier.
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nathankaye

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Re: heating water update
« Reply #46 on: February 19, 2017, 01:41:18 pm »
This vid may help as if you don't want to get the size wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxrgYEurE3A

Cheers Smurf, i have seen this one. Its a shame he didnt do one afterwards or one showing hime putting it together. There doesnt seem to be one on youtube for that..
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nathankaye

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Re: heating water update
« Reply #47 on: February 19, 2017, 01:56:21 pm »
Cheers guys for all recommendations
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Jays Window Cleaning

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Re: heating water update
« Reply #48 on: February 22, 2017, 09:40:26 pm »
Just been looking at this would this work ok ? http://www.onestopbioshop.co.uk/shop/2kw-immersion-heater/

Says can plug in 13 amp plug socket .  If its sound i buy it .  Dont want to take anymore chances with my l5 ???

nathankaye

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Re: heating water update
« Reply #49 on: February 22, 2017, 10:14:56 pm »
Im fitting a 27inch 2kw. I have a normal flange and ordered a mechanical flange. Can see why people use the mechanical flange, will make it so easy to fit.

Yep, more than ok in a 13amp plug
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Jays Window Cleaning

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Re: heating water update
« Reply #50 on: February 22, 2017, 10:19:05 pm »
Thats what i thought . Just wanted the heads up . Gonna order one . And a mechanical flange .

Cheers mate

nathankaye

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Re: heating water update
« Reply #51 on: February 24, 2017, 08:46:01 am »
So spent yesterday dragging tank out the van, cleaning inside of tank, drilling holes etc etc..all to install the 2kw 27 inch element at the bottom of the tank.
Put the immersion on last night and this is the results;



The element is at the bottom of the tank and goes under the baffled section. So all that hot water has worked itself to the top
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Smurf

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Re: heating water update
« Reply #52 on: February 24, 2017, 08:59:13 am »
Nice one. Did you find it hard to fit?

Also don't go melting those plastic balls in the tank. lol

nathankaye

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Re: heating water update
« Reply #53 on: February 24, 2017, 09:16:58 am »
Nice one. Did you find it hard to fit?

Also don't go melting those plastic balls in the tank. lol

I wondered why everyone recommends the mechanical flange, until it got delivered and i actually held it. Without using this, it would have been much harder.
But the 64mm drill bit made sure the hole was tight enough. I had to sand/file it a fraction untill i knew from the outside that the flange would fit. Then dangled it down on a wire with croc clips till i could hild it with fingers and pulled it through the hole. Tightened the nut up with some ptf tape as well and jobs a good one.
Lol the hardest part was wiring the 13amp plug, as the needed heat resist cable was very stiff to work with.

At 42 degrees, photo doesnt show the steam coming out tank. But its bath temp, very hot to put your hand in. I would definately recommend this avenue for people to try if dont want to use gas.
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Re: heating water update
« Reply #54 on: February 24, 2017, 02:02:23 pm »
Hi Nathan
What setting did u have the thermostat on? And how long did u leave it on for?
I have one and it is great.

nathankaye

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Re: heating water update
« Reply #55 on: February 24, 2017, 04:44:56 pm »
Hi Nathan
What setting did u have the thermostat on? And how long did u leave it on for?
I have one and it is great.

The thermostat was just rated 1 -5 and so i stuck it on 3 to see what it would be like. (No instructions on 1 being low or 1 being high,,,guessingbits low but could be wrong.)
I had it on from just gone midnight till 8 b4 work.

What setting is yours n what temp does it reach? 
Mines 2kw 27" in 500l upright
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nathankaye

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Re: heating water update
« Reply #56 on: February 24, 2017, 04:46:32 pm »
Im also sending of for one of those smart electric readers, which tell you how much electricity your appliances use so i can count the cost for tax purposes
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Re: heating water update
« Reply #57 on: February 24, 2017, 04:52:09 pm »
Hi Nathan
What setting did u have the thermostat on? And how long did u leave it on for?
I have one and it is great.

The thermostat was just rated 1 -5 and so i stuck it on 3 to see what it would be like. (No instructions on 1 being low or 1 being high,,,guessingbits low but could be wrong.)
I had it on from just gone midnight till 8 b4 work.

What setting is yours n what temp does it reach? 
Mines 2kw 27" in 500l upright

Take a couple of pics pleased. I'm interested to see how low you got it
Tony

nathankaye

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Re: heating water update
« Reply #58 on: February 24, 2017, 05:16:18 pm »


This is a shot i took when it first  fitted in whilst the tank was out the van on its side. But you can see the edge of the tank, the base being the underside. But i will post another pic of it in the van soon. Cant take an inside pic as when water id drain the base is covered in my plastic balls  ::)roll
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nathankaye

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Re: heating water update
« Reply #59 on: February 24, 2017, 05:31:35 pm »
Decided to move some balls into the other side of the baffled area so people can see more cleay. Also the bottom pic showing the temp was when i knocked off at half past four. So from 8am till 4.30pm there wasnt a huge loss of temp.





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