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jo5hm4n

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Osha Clean
« on: January 31, 2017, 10:05:46 pm »
Had a text from this company called Osha Clean.  Not sure how they got my details probably google or something.

Just wondering if anybody uses them to get business.  Seems legit, but i'm not sure whether to do it or not, even though it's free and there's always the chance of getting some work out of it.

Wanted to see if any of you guys on here have used this site first, let me know please.


Shrek

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Re: Osha Clean
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2017, 10:18:21 pm »
Cut the middleman out , you don't need them

Smurf

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Re: Osha Clean
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2017, 11:13:14 pm »

dazmond

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Re: Osha Clean
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2017, 10:03:38 pm »
Had a text from this company called Osha Clean.  Not sure how they got my details probably google or something.

Just wondering if anybody uses them to get business.  Seems legit, but i'm not sure whether to do it or not, even though it's free and there's always the chance of getting some work out of it.

Wanted to see if any of you guys on here have used this site first, let me know please.

if your really desperate for work and cant face knocking on doors/leafleting give them a ring.
price higher/work harder!

Spruce

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Re: Osha Clean
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2017, 06:48:16 am »
Had a text from this company called Osha Clean.  Not sure how they got my details probably google or something.

Just wondering if anybody uses them to get business.  Seems legit, but i'm not sure whether to do it or not, even though it's free and there's always the chance of getting some work out of it.

Wanted to see if any of you guys on here have used this site first, let me know please.

if your really desperate for work and cant face knocking on doors/leafleting give them a ring.

Trouble is Daz, whose to say that he will get any work from Osha in the first instance?

Osha is a reactive business. Its not proactive. So the OP will have to canvass for more work anyway if he wants to grow his business. Osha won't do it for him.

Generally speaking, I've seen so many posts over the years from newbie window cleaners who think a colourful leaflet and a website are all that is needed to draw in a good customer base.

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Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

jo5hm4n

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Re: Osha Clean
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2017, 10:28:54 am »
fyi, i'm not desperate for work at all, and i do all my own canvassing anyway.  It was nothing more than a thought really, any opportunity to get extra business for free is always a bonus, thought i'd just see if anybody could recommend their services, but clearly it looks like something best to stay away from looking at some of the posts on here that i have seen.


Spruce

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Re: Osha Clean
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2017, 03:48:07 pm »
fyi, i'm not desperate for work at all, and i do all my own canvassing anyway.  It was nothing more than a thought really, any opportunity to get extra business for free is always a bonus, thought i'd just see if anybody could recommend their services, but clearly it looks like something best to stay away from looking at some of the posts on here that i have seen.

Mark Stevenson, the owner came on here once to point us in the right direction regarding this new concept. That was the 13th of May 2016. That was the last time he was active.  When the kitchen started to get hot that was the last we heard from him. Says a lot really.

Surely if someone has an industry leading business idea he would stay around a little longer to explain what none of us could grasp.

At least he could have spent a bit more time and energy explaining why we would need to join his scheme.
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Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

Arnold Palmer

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Re: Osha Clean
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2017, 04:07:37 pm »
Osha seem to think we are incapable of running a window cleaning business. Ironic as they seem to fundamentally misunderstand how the business is run in real life.

From their website:

Quote from: The saviour of window cleaning
As an Osha Clean customer you’ll have control over when your windows are cleaned and reassurance because you’re paying for them securely online.

http://osha-clean.com/about/

Does not sound like the the kind of agreement you're going to make any money from, especially as Osha do the pricing by the look of it and take their cut for their "expertise" in digital marketing. They can't even get their website on page one if you Google "Osha window cleaning" FFS,  so what exactly would you be paying for? There can't be many window cleaners left that don't have the option of paying online surely??
They're eeeting the dogs.
They're eeeting the cats.
They're eeeting the pets,
of the people who live there.

p1w1

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Re: Osha Clean
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2017, 04:32:20 pm »
They got a Virgin grant or something to start the business up

Arnold Palmer

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Re: Osha Clean
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2017, 04:33:21 pm »
Just read on their website:

Quote from: The saviour of window cleaning
There’s absolutely no fee or ongoing commission charges.

http://osha-clean.com/partners/

Which is clearly a just an alternative fact. All they are doing is taking their cut before you even get a sniff, otherwise what would be the point?
They're eeeting the dogs.
They're eeeting the cats.
They're eeeting the pets,
of the people who live there.

Tom-01

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Re: Osha Clean
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2017, 04:35:34 pm »
They got a Virgin grant or something to start the business up

Blimey years ago I tried to get a loan for £1000. Was told where to go. Now they're trying to throw money at me - funny how it goes sometimes.

Arnold Palmer

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Re: Osha Clean
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2017, 04:39:00 pm »


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They're eeeting the dogs.
They're eeeting the cats.
They're eeeting the pets,
of the people who live there.

Smurf

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Re: Osha Clean
« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2017, 04:59:00 pm »


The comment below this picture has been modded as it contains many, many profanities and expletives.

Naughty boy  ;D

Marc Stock

Re: Osha Clean
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2017, 05:00:39 pm »
Osha is a business based on 'the lazy' business model. This is a real business model, and will probably make alot of money, if not already doing so.

The thing is, Mark is probably sitting in his pijamas  making money,  he wont make as much as you or i do per clean, but eventually as Osha continue to book work, and window cleaning businesses slowly start to use Osha  the name will saturate into the market and weather we like it or not, will become a relevent avenue for both parties. The fact that we are even discussing Osha again demonstrates to me that Mark has already had some success with it, because its clear that some see this as a threat to thier business.

Now i think that we need to understand that even though we are professionals, and have good business skills, and can do our own marketing etc etc etc, there are still alot of individuals out there who clean windows to just make ends meet, or for a bit of extra cash  with no direction, no loyalty to the customer and is very charlatan in their approach. These people are ideal for Osha,  and they need someone like Osha to organise, price and front them. Its nothing bad, its just a gap in the market that Osha have identified.

We all know that Osha for an established branded window cleaning business with a pro active goal is not going to fit, there is a conflict of interest.

But, for Bob, who lives down the street, who perhaps has had a few problems, finds it hard to be motivated, hasnt got much people skills, or hasnt got the abilty to canvass but cleans windows to survive, and doesnt nessararly want the latest car or tv, and would rather just be happy paying the bills and having food to eat. ..you know a simple life.....well Osha is perfect for him really isnt it.

I think the main reason why you havent heard from Mark is probably becouse he hasnt got the time to spend arguing with people who wouldn't fit his business profile anyway, and i bet he is chanelling all his time to making Osha more successful.

Osha is relevant to Osha's business. We are relevant to our businesses, lets move on and forget about it becouse im sure Mark doesn't give two hoots about how you feel, towards him or Osha and frankly i dont either.

Arnold Palmer

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Re: Osha Clean
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2017, 06:57:59 pm »
For someone who doesn't give two hoots you seem to have a defined opinion on the matter.

Osha is not the first company to try this, not by a long way. I signed up to one once years ago, can't remember the name of them, it was a waste of my time and theirs.

The only reason I'm discussing Osha is because they had a paid advert on here a while back, otherwise I'd never have heard of them. Same as everybody else.
They're eeeting the dogs.
They're eeeting the cats.
They're eeeting the pets,
of the people who live there.

Arnold Palmer

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Re: Osha Clean
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2017, 07:27:54 pm »
Now i think that we need to understand that even though we are professionals, and have good business skills, and can do our own marketing etc etc etc, there are still alot of individuals out there who clean windows to just make ends meet, or for a bit of extra cash  with no direction, no loyalty to the customer and is very charlatan in their approach. These people are ideal for Osha,  and they need someone like Osha to organise, price and front them. Its nothing bad, its just a gap in the market that Osha have identified.

You used to get people like that in the bad old days. Window cleaning has moved on, you rarely see these types now, it's all brand new vans and ionic systems everywhere you look.
They're eeeting the dogs.
They're eeeting the cats.
They're eeeting the pets,
of the people who live there.

Marc Stock

Re: Osha Clean
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2017, 09:37:35 pm »
For someone who doesn't give two hoots you seem to have a defined opinion on the matter.

Osha is not the first company to try this, not by a long way. I signed up to one once years ago, can't remember the name of them, it was a waste of my time and theirs.

The only reason I'm discussing Osha is because they had a paid advert on here a while back, otherwise I'd never have heard of them. Same as everybody else.

Hahah yes I have an opinion on most things. ;D

More to my point on not giving too hoots........what I really mean is I'm just happy to concentrate on my own goals..you are happy to concentrate on yours,  and OSHA on theirs. 

Tosh

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Re: Osha Clean
« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2017, 10:08:04 pm »
For someone who doesn't give two hoots you seem to have a defined opinion on the matter.

Osha is not the first company to try this, not by a long way. I signed up to one once years ago, can't remember the name of them, it was a waste of my time and theirs.

The only reason I'm discussing Osha is because they had a paid advert on here a while back, otherwise I'd never have heard of them. Same as everybody else.

Nationwide Window Cleaners?

Seers Window Cleaners from Cardiff thought they were on to something there. Didn't we have to pay £25 for a commercial page and the same for a domestic page in your town?

  Then there was Ian (I make a living from online pyramid schemes) Wicks from Cambridge who has the worst website going for a window cleaner although he is a 'web designer'. He tried selling ad space on his 'directory'. My website is still linked to it, I've had one enquiry in 10 years.
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Arnold Palmer

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Re: Osha Clean
« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2017, 10:23:30 pm »
Ian Wicks, that was him.
They're eeeting the dogs.
They're eeeting the cats.
They're eeeting the pets,
of the people who live there.