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darren72

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Soft washing
« on: January 23, 2017, 05:07:40 pm »

darren72

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2017, 05:09:27 pm »
Is this ok for Soft washing its going for about £900 on ebay

Smurf

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2017, 05:53:41 pm »
NO apparently from what Ben from rutland pumps has said on a bookfarce page it's poop.
What do you expect as is made by streamline  ;D

darren72

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2017, 06:18:27 pm »
Smurf what's so bad about it was thinking of buying one don't no much about them but is this not the standard pump and Honda engine that most have cheers Darren

chris scott

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2017, 06:22:41 pm »
It's the wrong pump to start with.
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darren72

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2017, 06:40:59 pm »
Chris what's wrong with the pump if you don't mind me asking cheers

Smurf

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2017, 08:27:50 pm »
If you are looking for a trolley type setup then this type of thing would be more suited for the job
https://www.softwashtechnology.co.uk/collections/softwash-systems/products/softwash-systems-honda-gx120-bowser-unit-comet-acid-pump

This site is owned by Ben from rutland pumps so he don't sell rubbish like that other thing

waterforce

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2017, 08:44:52 pm »
It's the grey pumps that have Viton seals .

Richard Scott

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2017, 10:17:02 pm »
Interesting to hear the thought process here that because its not got a grey pump housing its not the right pump. Comet's own specification sheet states that its the polypropylene pump casing that's acid resistant which is black in colour. It is also assumed on the forum that the pump doesn't have Viton diaphragms because the housing is not grey. We have these 50-ltr trolleys and the 120-ltr barrows, both fitted with the same pump and engine configurations. Pump was specified by Comet themselves for soft washing, the acid resistant version with Viton diaphragms and seals and polypropylene pump casing...just for the record.

http://www.comet-spa.com/products/attachments/agricultural/catalogues/MC%208-18.pdf

Smurf

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2017, 11:01:52 pm »
So have you sold many then Richard or should I say your distributors?

Just for the record I can do the same job with a chepo atv spot sprayer without the need of spending hundreds of pounds more. I'm going to get another atv spot sprayer so have one for ddhc and the other for SH mix, That will come to less than half the price of the varistream one on fleebay including reels etc for both  ;D

waterforce

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2017, 06:05:52 am »
Interesting to hear the thought process here that because its not got a grey pump housing its not the right pump. Comet's own specification sheet states that its the polypropylene pump casing that's acid resistant which is black in colour. It is also assumed on the forum that the pump doesn't have Viton diaphragms because the housing is not grey. We have these 50-ltr trolleys and the 120-ltr barrows, both fitted with the same pump and engine configurations. Pump was specified by Comet themselves for soft washing, the acid resistant version with Viton diaphragms and seals and polypropylene pump casing...just for the record.

http://www.comet-spa.com/products/attachments/agricultural/catalogues/MC%208-18.pdf

You/Comet  are wrong. You should be fitting the Grey pump the one with Viton seals.
Comet cant even build this pump strong enough to do do the job it is designed to do..  ie pump liquid at 15 bar. The thing flys apart constantly . There are several modifications that need makeing to this pump to get it to perform at max spec and without self distructing.
Are you building this system..if you are you will have problems.

waterforce

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2017, 06:07:38 am »
Those hose reels are crap too....they will die.

Smurf

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2017, 10:13:25 am »
Interesting to hear the thought process here that because its not got a grey pump housing its not the right pump. Comet's own specification sheet states that its the polypropylene pump casing that's acid resistant which is black in colour. It is also assumed on the forum that the pump doesn't have Viton diaphragms because the housing is not grey. We have these 50-ltr trolleys and the 120-ltr barrows, both fitted with the same pump and engine configurations. Pump was specified by Comet themselves for soft washing, the acid resistant version with Viton diaphragms and seals and polypropylene pump casing...just for the record.

http://www.comet-spa.com/products/attachments/agricultural/catalogues/MC%208-18.pdf

You/Comet  are wrong. You should be fitting the Grey pump the one with Viton seals.
Comet cant even build this pump strong enough to do do the job it is designed to do..  ie pump liquid at 15 bar. The thing flys apart constantly . There are several modifications that need makeing to this pump to get it to perform at max spec and without self distructing.
Are you building this system..if you are you will have problems.

Waterforce I'm glad you mentioned this as that was the main reason that put me off buying that type of  pump.
The last thing you want is a pump flying apart unexpectedly spraying chems everywhere whilst on a job.

Wonder how many this has happened to before sellers where aware of the issue  ???

waterforce

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2017, 02:59:19 pm »

"Wonder how many this has happened to before sellers where aware of the issue" ...that ebay seller ain't sold so many else he would be aware of the problems. That or whoever he has sold them to ain't used them.

Ben Marriott

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2017, 06:10:21 pm »
Been to comet factory in Italy and as far as I am aware the grey is the Acid pump only. I saw only three pump models with a grey body all are acid only and used for corrosives. "Configuration: 2 diaphragms in NBR on standard versions (Desmopan ® on request), Viton on acid versions. Parts in contact with spray liquid: AISI 316-L stainless steel, polyamide (standard versions black), polypropylene (acid version grey). Standard: regulation valve (Available in two types). Can be fitted directly to gas engine with reduction kit.(¾ or ⅝" Shafts)".
Rutland Pumps Limited - 01572 729412- sales@rutlandpumps.co.uk

waterforce

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2017, 08:51:05 pm »
"In theory" Richard that has pi55ed on your bonfire.

Smurf

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2017, 12:56:35 am »
Been to comet factory in Italy and as far as I am aware the grey is the Acid pump only. I saw only three pump models with a grey body all are acid only and used for corrosives. "Configuration: 2 diaphragms in NBR on standard versions (Desmopan ® on request), Viton on acid versions. Parts in contact with spray liquid: AISI 316-L stainless steel, polyamide (standard versions black), polypropylene (acid version grey). Standard: regulation valve (Available in two types). Can be fitted directly to gas engine with reduction kit.(¾ or ⅝" Shafts)".

Slight change of subject Ben but have you have you had any feedback from the new type of pump build you did for Chris Scot yet?

waterforce

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2017, 07:41:33 am »
Smurf...there is a legend they call "Sophia Softwash" you should talk to her about cake recipes and pumps.

Kev Martin

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2017, 09:17:15 am »


Slight change of subject Ben but have you have you had any feedback from the new type of pump build you did for Chris Scot yet?
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chris scott

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2017, 09:34:41 am »
The new pumps good..albeit at little to powerful for how we use them. We are just testing some new nozzles so we can get an optimum spray pattern at low flow/pressure. The unloader works well really sensitive micro adjustment (with no real internal parts to damage).
I think long term they will be a lot more resilient to operator error that is a problem with the comet pumps.
I think they will be a lot more versatile due to the higher flow rates (if thats your thing) ...I still prefer to try and use the minimum amount of chemicals as possible.Whilst others seem to want to spray them (chemicals) everywhere.


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