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Smurf

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2017, 10:33:54 am »
Thanks for the feedback Chris.

I did wonder using that new type of soft wash pump if there would be issues with using too much chem. I too like to use the least chem as possible so to avoid excessive  run-off and to keep overspray down. At the mo I'm using a chepo ATV spot sprayer with a 12v 8 lpm electric pump with benz nozzles or wfp brush. But still I have to turn the controller down to about 3 lpm otherwise it causes too much run-off and wastes to much chem on vertical surfaces.

Ideally I'm looking for a robust system that will increase my speed and efficiency without causing  H&S issues. As of yet I've not found one.  ::)roll



chris scott

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2017, 11:12:59 am »
The new pump easily goes down to 3lpm  and abour 20 odds top end. We can run 2/3 brushes off it at the same time. Or stand in the middle of the Garden and hit the apex with a 0 degree.
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Smurf

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #22 on: January 29, 2017, 11:54:09 am »
The new pump easily goes down to 3lpm  and abour 20 odds top end. We can run 2/3 brushes off it at the same time. Or stand in the middle of the Garden and hit the apex with a 0 degree.

I like the sound of that Chris.  ;)

Can it create foam too?
Does it need a return to tank hose?
Also do you use it as a wash down pump too instead of having to use a pressure washer and/or garden house attached to an outside tap?

Reason why I ask is ideally I'm after building a van mount setup that a petrol driven pump like that could do all the tasks I require of it without the need of of using other means so to keep it as simple and efficient as possible.

Why I also asked about does the pump need a return to tank hose is that I also want to use metering ball valves so does away with batch mixing altogether. Obviously if the chem has to go back to a tank then the metering ball valves would be pointless.

Ben Marriott

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #23 on: January 29, 2017, 12:55:37 pm »
Kev how are you? We've basically gone along two different routes to stave off COPYCATS for the mean time :D they are at least a year behind on a steep learning curve and will soon realise how heavily every aspect of the units has to be changed to take the chemicals for any period. Along with the necessary information to give as advice to their customers.

So we are trying to change the game and stay ahead. 

Firstly with the route Chris Scott is Testing this is yes based on a roller pump.  HOWEVER not any old roller pump will do, not any old regulator will do, not any old engine will work, not any old fittings will work. The pumps will wash down at high flow or bypass internally at very very low flows. They can easily achieve 150PSI and are very easy to repair and maintain.

We have another path which we are testing using a high flow pump which again is infinitely variable but which returns to tank.  This is very effective for the more americanised companies.

There are hundreds of projects going on in the background to develop more units, the more we build the more companies duplicate what we have done so we have to keep going. :)
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chris scott

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #24 on: January 29, 2017, 12:56:03 pm »
No the chemical just recirculates whithin the "pump system" . Although you should not just walk away and leave it running for hours in bypass.
At approx 10 bar they produce 20lpm  it could be used for wash down....on par with a good domestic  water supply maybe ?

It creates plenty of foam if you put too much Algo clear through it !
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chris scott

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #25 on: January 29, 2017, 12:57:18 pm »
Snap ;D
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Richard Scott

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Re: Soft washing
« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2017, 08:43:41 pm »
Following my previous post, I contacted Comet to clarify the pump model they have been supplying us. The pump model we have been supplying has polyamide body with Viton seals,  so apologise for any misleading information given in my previous post. We have sold 7 pumps since September with no reported issues whatsoever. Even so, we offer standard 12 month warranty on all our products in any case, so will stand by any reported failures and replace with the correct model and specification going forward.

Of the hose reels illustrated, we sold 145 of these reels in 2016 without any reported failures, allbeit only a few into softwashing applications. 

Comments on this forum are valued in view of understanding what does and doesn't work in the field, but also think suppliers/manufacturers need to be given a fair chance, as product development comes at a fair amount of cost and time spent.


Smurf

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Re: Soft washing New
« Reply #27 on: January 30, 2017, 09:56:08 pm »
Here is another new supplier to put the cat amongst the pigeons so to speak.
https://purple-rhino-softwash-systems.co.uk/

Why buy a lada when you can own a rolls-royce... A C must be laughing all the way to the bank  ;D