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mike1986

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Window Cleaning Equipment frozen...again! New
« on: December 29, 2016, 09:32:41 am »
Tried leaving a small plug in radiator in back of van overnight but equipment is still freezing up! What's the best way to deal with this?

nathankaye

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Re: Equipment frozen...again!
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2016, 09:43:46 am »
What size van is it and what watt radiator?

Mine is a fiat scudo so probably smaller, but a large plug in radiator keeps the frost of mine nicely. I dont have it on frost setting but high. On a timer to come on at midnight for a couple of hours and throughout night till morning.

If your having problems, do you drain your hoses, especially pole hose after finishing last job?  Fetch your main hose inside and throw an old blanket/duvet over pump etc.

Alternatively, have some sort of hot water system perhaps.......element or gas heater etc.
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SeanK

Re: Equipment frozen...again!
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2016, 09:44:55 am »
Cover your tank, pump, DI vessel if used in van with old sleeping bags or similar and if possible remove hose reel and
bring it inside.

JandS

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Re: Equipment frozen...again!
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2016, 01:22:02 pm »
Does radiator work Nathan....though all the heat would just rise to the roof and dissipate.
Anything low down would not benefit.
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Smurf

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Re: Equipment frozen...again!
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2016, 01:33:09 pm »
You know when it's really cold as can end up with the water in the van tank  frozen solid too.
In prolonged sub zero temps when you can't work for day's/weeks in bad winter months cheapest form of frost protection is to just drain everything down properly including the van tank/s and bring kit indoors.

There is no point in trying to beat mother nature.

Dave Willis

Re: Equipment frozen...again!
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2016, 02:13:42 pm »
Immersion element and a quilt over the hose reel.

robbo333

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Re: Equipment frozen...again!
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2016, 05:49:21 pm »
My van is parked a little way from the house making it awkward to run electrics. Yesterday I made a pump box so now everything can come inside. Job done.
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nathankaye

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Re: Equipment frozen...again!
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2016, 06:00:57 pm »
Does radiator work Nathan....though all the heat would just rise to the roof and dissipate.
Anything low down would not benefit.

I got carried away with the silverlined bubble wrap when i did my tank. I was fortunate when i got my van, its all fibregalssed. But like you said the van roof is just a sheet of panaling and so i sprayed glued two layers of wrap on it.

I sit my radiator inbetween my pump and hose reel and drop my pole hose close to it as well. This works for me
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stu_thomson

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Re: Equipment frozen...again!
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2016, 09:09:45 pm »
Tropical fish tanker heater in tank?
Reasonable wattage
Will act like a giant radiator then wrap duvet over everything

Stu
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duncan h

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Re: Equipment frozen...again!
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2016, 10:38:30 pm »
Never had tank water freeze but all pipes have. the smaller the pipe, the more it will freeze.
I put a oil rad in van. Never freezes if I do. I have to leave a note on house door, so I don't drive off with extension in back door lol

Nick_Thompson

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Re: Equipment frozen...again!
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2017, 06:52:51 pm »
Tropical fish tanker heater in tank?
Reasonable wattage
Will act like a giant radiator then wrap duvet over everything

Stu

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Frankybadboy

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Re: Equipment frozen...again!
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2017, 07:02:31 pm »
oil filled rad and never had a problem,
dont wait until its frozen to turn it on,get it on as soon asap and keep it on until your ready to drive off

mop-n-scrim

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Re: Equipment frozen...again!
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2017, 08:28:12 pm »
Dehumidifier & heater on frost stat.
Never a frozen van.
But we have the benefit of being able to run elec.

dazmond

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Re: Equipment frozen...again!
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2017, 07:56:34 am »
oil filled rad and never had a problem,
dont wait until its frozen to turn it on,get it on as soon asap and keep it on until your ready to drive off

exactly.you need to keep the radiator on all night on max setting IMO.forget using timers or min settings.mine is placed in between my reel and pumpbox at the back of my tank.it costs about £1-50 a night in electric.

if its forecast crazy low temperatures(like -15!)which is very rare then id also use an  aquarium heater dropped into my tank and a duvet over tank.
price higher/work harder!

Richard Stevenson

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Re: Equipment frozen...again!
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2017, 08:14:45 am »
Has know one on this site got a gararge. If you have take all that junk out and put your van in, my Vivario fits perfect plus its not going to get stolen or broken into.

Susan Dean (1stclean)

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Re: Equipment frozen...again!
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2017, 09:54:04 am »
diesel night heater . pull up switch on and forget it where everits parked job done

slap bash

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Re: Equipment frozen...again!
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2017, 04:19:17 pm »
I use a 500 watt fish tank heater hanging into my tank this prevent my tank and hoses freezing and low cost soluting.




tomasxguty

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Re: Equipment frozen...again!
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2017, 07:22:50 pm »
The new propex/heatsource hs2000  night gas heater comes with a frost stat setting. It kicks in when the temperature inside the van drops to around 2°C and turns off  when it reaches 5°C. It's quiet, small and economical. Perfect for window cleaning vans.  Insulating the roof with the silver bubble wrap makes quite a difference too. Stay warm,  stay safe

Tom White

Re: Equipment frozen...again!
« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2017, 08:21:39 pm »
You know when it's really cold as can end up with the water in the van tank  frozen solid too.
In prolonged sub zero temps when you can't work for day's/weeks in bad winter months cheapest form of frost protection is to just drain everything down properly including the van tank/s and bring kit indoors.

There is no point in trying to beat mother nature.

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I think only once has it come close to that in SE Wales.

Michael Peterson

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Re: Equipment frozen...again!
« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2017, 08:43:46 pm »
ive had the tank freeze in morpeth when it had to go to the garage for a week once