[Rogue Trader]

Hi All,

i have lost track a bit and need you guys to tell me whats what re detergent, i have in the past used tfr for con roofs or very dirty windows, what is the best one to use nowadays?


Matt

[chris turner]

You will find any heavy duty cleaner degreaser or tfr will do the job. My current favourite is made by Merlin but difficult to find online, I get it from a local cleaning supplies shop.
Better yet, good old fashioned cif cream cleaner. It cleans better then anything else IMO.
Things like ubik, virasol etc are a bit more convenient to use as you can dilute them in a backpack and spray con roofs, fascias before cleaning them with wfp. Whereas cif you need to apply directly to brush and scrub, so can take longer, but you get better results.

[dazmond]

i use virosol , cif cream cleaner (and b & q "sticky stuff remover" for sellotape/sticker removal on frames.)

for trad i use HG window cleaner and er.....vision.


thats it.other than that i just use hot pure water for window cleaning.

[robbo333]

I use virosol for gutters etc, magic eraser pads for black marks on upvc, a yellow tin of lighter fluid for sticky labels etc on glass, and Squeegee off in my trad bucket.

[Windy Miller]

Is there any detergent that can be applied just using the brush and wfp which can remove the black runs from rubber seals and also grey staining on white frames? Or is climbing the ladder and getting up close with cif and a non scrape scourer or sponge the only solution?

[Matt.]

I would just put some virosol in a bucket, pre wet up ya frames, then dip brush head into bucket with chems in, I would turn the water off and give frames a scrub up with wots on ya brush head from the bucket.

If you have an ics supplier local they sell virosol Under the name of power sol, and there hd degreaser is even better IMO

[dazmond]

Is there any detergent that can be applied just using the brush and wfp which can remove the black runs from rubber seals and also grey staining on white frames? Or is climbing the ladder and getting up close with cif and a non scrape scourer or sponge the only solution?

new windows is the only solution.stay well clear.you cant make a silk purse out of a sows ear.

[jo5hm4n]

I would just put some virosol in a bucket, pre wet up ya frames, then dip brush head into bucket with chems in, I would turn the water off and give frames a scrub up with wots on ya brush head from the bucket.

If you have an ics supplier local they sell virosol Under the name of power sol, and there hd degreaser is even better IMO

This is exactly the method i now use and find it works really well and is actually quicker.

[Windy Miller]

Thanks for the replies Matt and jo5hm4n, will give that a go and if it's not satisfactory I'll recommend them to get new windows installed like Dazmond says 

[dazmond]

Thanks for the replies Matt and jo5hm4n, will give that a go and if it's not satisfactory I'll recommend them to get new windows installed like Dazmond says 

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the thing is if the rubber seals have bled onto the frames and been there for years,the chances of you removing the inky black sludge are very slim but you could spend hours trying to get them clean.

....and i bet every time you think your getting the frames clean more black ink bleeds from the rubber seals.

your wasting your time and it could put you in a bad mood for the rest of the day.

[Stoots]

Asda smart price all purpose cleaner for first cleans, conny roofs etc
Asda smart price cream cleaner for deeper cleaning on upvs
And white spirit for sticky stuff

Job done

[SeanK]

Is there any detergent that can be applied just using the brush and wfp which can remove the black runs from rubber seals and also grey staining on white frames? Or is climbing the ladder and getting up close with cif and a non scrape scourer or sponge the only solution?

That would be classed as frame restoration work and not the job of the window cleaner, as Dazmond has stated this can be costly, time consuming with no guarantees of getting them to a decent standard.
There are products out there that will buff/sand a thin layer off the frames but this may remove the protective covering which will then leave the frames opened to sun damage/powdering which could give you problems with milky runs in future cleans.

[paulben]

Trouble with black runs from rubber is every time you clean windows more black comes out. Got acustomer who had new hinges fitted but fitter got black all over frames then told her it would come off with Fairy liquid. I told her to get him back to do it then I am not clearing up someone elses mess .

[the king]

has any one tryed scott dennings tfr its spose to be strong as hell and is clear so no die to stain when left on for to long