[JandS]

Won't answer the critics then decides he's not coming on here again....so much for accountability.
Says on his FB page not answering phones and that was posted 08/12.
Something not right.

[tim handley]

ive got this really dumb idea, why not just do what i did, make a decision, either tacca is for you or it isnt, thats everyones perogative, you may not bother now but join later, you may join this year then drop out, but all this constant commenting and slagging off is getting a bit much. in fact, its getting a bit like  the brexit debate........ and im sick of that as well......   join or dont join,  thats all it distills down to really.....  and on that note,   may i wish everybody a damn good xmas and a prosperous new year........
may february not be quiet, may we be monged out with  work all the way through jan and feb!!!

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Some of us did but I think it was taken personally obviously there are other circumstances but looking at the stats Derek stopped using this forum for quite a bit of time then came back.

[sean oregan]

Who has 2 accounts Shaun?
Can you at least confirm who has not

[Scott Holman]

Well i never got a phonecall, not that i'm surprised. Someone asked why i'm still advertising TACCA on my website. I had a listing and was a member as i got sucked in initially (my big failing in life, too trusting! need to be more like Shaun and sit back to watch the fireworks not a dig Shaun a compliment you know your stuff! The TACCA stuff will be removed asap. Another failing of mine is i do my best to be nice and stick to my word! I don't BS colleagues and i certainly don't BS customers. Some in this industry don't have this failing and are quite happy to chat poope to get a sale.
Merry Christmas folks

[jasonl]

Just because some of us think tacca is a waste of time and money. This does not mean others will feel it is ok, everything on this thread is opinion.
I and others gave our viewpoint based on 20plus years experience and success repeatedly and over a sustained period. If others know better let them pay up and join.

Still paying ccn (carpet cleaners network)for pay per click leads?
20 plus years experience should bring a regular repeat business!

No I am not,  I have started and sold several cc operations,  every start up I have worked on does WHATEVER  it takes to get work in, then after 5 years it's mainly repeat and referral.

[Kev Martin]

However, in my opinion it is a good thing because it means each member of the alliance puts the same money in and has an equal share.    Surely now with an equal financial share and an elected project team running it you will get even more out of the Alliance now?

Equal share? Are you for real? He owns TACCA outright, he pockets the money.
There is NO accountability! If he turned it into a proper Association with all the checks and balances which comes with that then I wouldn't be on here warning everyone of the impending online rip off of 2017.

I am for real and if he owns TACCA outright then it is not an Alliance is it?  Your thoughts on what you think you are warning people about is just that "Your Thoughts and Your Opinion" Anyone putting their money in to anything is entitled to have a breakdown of what is happening to it or what it is being invested into!  Furthermore if indeed there are 230 members putting money in at the rates being surmised /suggested / Guessed then the fee/membership/ or anything else you want to call it should attract VAT as it puts it over the threshold

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Scott I don't take offence I've been married far too long. It's dereks alliance he can do what he wants with it, the numbers of who has joined will be on the Tacca  members map in the new year when the free listing expires.

[Carpet Master]

 Anyone putting their money in to anything is entitled to have a breakdown of what is happening to it or what it is being invested into!

Why would you be entitled to have a say in what happens when you don't own it? Your money is a subscription fee, not a share investment?? You are not buying a slice of the cake,  he owns the cake and will get fat off all the sugar.

[Kev Martin]

Then it's not an Alliance is it?

[Mike Halliday]

Kev you gave the definition of alliance in an earlier post, but yourCompany is called tiling logistics if I look up the definition of those 2 words would I have an accurate discription of your company? I don't think you can suggest any type of discription Of what TACCA  is by the name it goes under.

I read the TACCA Facebook page and it's got some successful, intelligent contributors, if we believe the old adage that....... you can fool some of the people all the time and all the people some of the time 

.......why has TACCA   Not failed already?  Surely people would have Sussed out if Derek is a thieving conman, but he still has intelligent, loyal supporters........are we saying these people are a bit thick?

 Ok now you have to pay, so perhaps we should put on hold any judgment for 6 months  and see what happens,

[jasonl]

Won't answer the critics then decides he's not coming on here again....so much for accountability.
Says on his FB page not answering phones and that was posted 08/12.
Something not right.

It shows poor leadership and lack of resolve.
A few people raise objections and the leader leaves.

I could easily resolve all of those issues and welcome all to tacca.

[Jennifer w]

Thanks for the explanation,

I guess it was like an unofficial 5  year free trial then........

I can't say I blame Derek for wanting something out of it........

i can see how it would build a new starters confidence to be involved and hear all the stories on the open days etc.....

[Ian Harper]

Mike

dont forget that its was woodham that started carpet cleaners day out then jason took that over.  no one has ever started somthing that was outward looking always down to carpet cleaners to surport any group. thats the big one. Compedance in cleaning is one thing.

Look at take aways been around some amount of time but they are a thing, where carpet cleaning is not yet. and now they have "just eat" which is a big move to a brand.

https://www.just-eat.co.uk

this is what we need and will be worth a fee.  would be interesting to find out how it got funded and cost and returns for users. 

With any fee its about return on investment. thats what its always comes down to. how much do i get back.

With regards SEO with these things again its the members linking back to the mother ship that gives that site the juice that it then uses to prmote itself.

Training is always another issue no group provide a national reconised certifaction for prospect to trust. NVQ is the one. its funny how trust a trader allow people to join without a NVQ

Thats my views on these groups. Good luck to them all, just not for me at the moment.

Respects

Ian Harper

[Mike Halliday]

The First ' carpet cleaners day out ' was done by Glynn at the Pines hotel near Preston (or was that the second) was the  first at the pub down the road?

I remembers the pub,  it was when I first started using a diesel burner to heat my water, so I gave a  demonstration of its power, I created so much steam you couldn't see me

[jasonl]

First gathering from forums was organised by Paul Elliott and Matthew who created Cleantalk. they had a tour of Franklins in Sheffield, Shaun was there.

[will_turton]

Mike Halliday I remember that demo you did, felt sorry for that bane clean of yours😅

[Mike Gwilliam]

First gathering from forums was organised by Paul Elliott and Matthew who created Cleantalk. they had a tour of Franklins in Sheffield, Shaun was there.

I was there on that day. I was into rugs quite a bit then.

 I remember them upselling microsplitters, I think it was Onestep. I also remember there was a nice blonde burd there as well  Was it 2001?

[G.C.]

Sounds good  to me if you got plenty 

But i can't afford to pay as i am a poor Carpet cleaner 

Any donations i would be grateful 

Don't ask you don't get....

[Shaun_Ashmore]

You've pinched my line