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Smurf

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Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
« Reply #180 on: December 08, 2016, 11:13:02 am »
Social media works both ways you know and a bad word will travel a lot faster than a good one surely?

So what happens if you don't want to take on a job for some reason or another, they don't want to pay that much or they turn out to be messers/bad payers?

Oh and they find out it only takes you less than 4mins to do their 3 bed semi bay fronted house. Would they still see it as value for money...I don't think so somehow  ;D ;D


nathankaye

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Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
« Reply #181 on: December 08, 2016, 12:07:30 pm »
Social media works both ways you know and a bad word will travel a lot faster than a good one surely?

So what happens if you don't want to take on a job for some reason or another, they don't want to pay that much or they turn out to be messers/bad payers?

Oh and they find out it only takes you less than 4mins to do their 3 bed semi bay fronted house. Would they still see it as value for money...I don't think so somehow  ;D ;D

Thankfully ive not had a bad word against me yet, lol apart from on here.

In addition to providing a quality job, regardless of what field of work it is. A lot is said of a persons character. Im sure youve got jobs based not just on price Smurf, but down to your character im sure.
This goes a long way. But strength of character proves its worth not when things go easy, but when you might come accross obstacles for instance. Personally if ive come across difficulties with customers i deal with it in a professional manner when it is work related. Thats why i have customers who are happy for me to txt them to give heads up so they can clear a garden of dog poop rather than loose me, or customers hack back garden plants etc etc.  But if we have to part ways, i hopefully dont leave a bad taste in their mouth, so to speak where they attack online.

As far as speed is concerned, i feel its how you sell yourselve and your service.  For instance picked up a new job a short while ago. His cleaner not been for over a yr, but he was on wfp also. My first clean for him was a first clean, ie used ubik on frames to get it upto scratch. So it took a little longer. The guy told me he timed the previous chap and it took him just over 3mins and knew i did a good job because its taking longer. This chap is a carpenter. I explained  why it took me a short while and that my next cleans would be just as quick and i likened it to his work. He used power tools to cut etc. Would he go back to hand tools or do the power tools give him speed and perhaps more quality. He obviously agreed and so i likened it to my investment, how it helps me do the same job as traditional but quicker and perhaps better. The penny dropped and he doesnt have a problem with speed or price.

Im not going to slow down, just because people cant grasp how you can work at a comfortable speed and still provide the same good results.  Again more waffle.....i had an old dear in a bungalow trad cleaned. I perhaps was faster than most guys. She would always come outside and check every window n sill before paying because she thought it should take a set amount of time to clean properly. She was a persistant old dear (but we did get on great), untill the day she passed away, she never found a fault.
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SeanK

Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
« Reply #182 on: December 08, 2016, 12:19:52 pm »
I wonder was that down to your skill or her eyesight. lol.

nathankaye

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Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
« Reply #183 on: December 08, 2016, 12:30:00 pm »
I wonder was that down to your skill or her eyesight. lol.

 ;D  ;D
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jonboywalton75

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Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
« Reply #184 on: December 08, 2016, 03:10:00 pm »
What's he doing charging 7 or 8 pounds each
I'm like a veteran  footballer who lets the ball do the work
I'm 59 so I use my head
I reckon 90% of window cleaners are thick as pig pooo
Well if you multiply the 7 or 8 pounds x the amount of houses I clean, I can put up with anyone calling me thick. Oh and I use my head as well, by the time I'm 59 I won't need to clean any windows ;D

Anyone doing 35 houses a day won't reach 59!!!!!!

jonboywalton75

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Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
« Reply #185 on: December 08, 2016, 03:13:05 pm »
KS must be very tall too just using an slx18 on every job. I'm also betting by now he has one arm longer than the other  ;D

I clean 99% of my work with a Slx18,

I do 90% of mine using slx 18

Smurf

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Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
« Reply #186 on: December 08, 2016, 03:30:31 pm »
KS must be very tall too just using an slx18 on every job. I'm also betting by now he has one arm longer than the other  ;D

I clean 99% of my work with a Slx18,

I do 90% of mine using slx 18

So are you saying out of say 500 you need a longer pole on about 50 of them... Yeah right  ;D

KS Cleaning

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Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
« Reply #187 on: December 08, 2016, 04:11:45 pm »
I wonder......if the question was asked "who is the best window cleaner?" If everyone was on the same footing, what the answers  would be........im guessing we would all put ourselves forward.  Were all so proud of the fact that we own our own business and that dispite what anyone else does,,,,,,     
         "one" does it better still and to make sure that "one" believes that,,,,,well one has to out others down for ones own sake; "They must be charging crap prices"
"Quality must suffer"
"Had to be splash n dash"
"They must be in guiness book of records"
"How can you be soooo fit not to tire out"

One thing for sure, this thread has kept peoples interests..........for better or worse

Personally I take most things I read on here with a pinch of salt, most of my opinions come from my own experiences on the
glass and what others are up to in my neck of the woods.
Put it this way, none of the splash and dash guys in my area (and there are a few ) have any sort of reputation for quality
and tend to keep custom by offering a half decent clean at a cheaper price.
Why should I believe that any of the splash and dash guys on here would be any different ?

Some people are very good at getting the work, but cr@p at doing it.
If I think back through the whole of this last year, I can only remember 1 complaint due to workmanship, and even that I don't believe was my fault ( I know, it never is ).  That was because the poxy gardener turned up just as i finished cleaning the windows and started blowing leaves everywhere, including onto the still wet windows.

I just don't get complaints, I do the job properly.

I have an impeccable reputation for quality which is why I haven't advertised for years. Most jobs I pick up are through recommendations, including nearly all my commercial.

My fondest memory of this job is when I won a contract for a large healthcare centre, probably my best job. Windows in and out every 5 weeks, gutters 4 times a year, fascia cleaning once a year, all well priced.
They got rid of the last company because they were 'splash an dash'. The windows always looked spottier then my chin at the height of puberty. Top Sills were green, half the insides were always missed.
My price was higher then theirs even though they were vat reg and I'm not, but I got the job.
Within 10 weeks of getting the contract I'd cleared the gutters, cleaned fascias/soffits and cleaned the windows twice. It looked like a new building.
On my third visit to clean the windows I was doing the insides when one of the lady admin girls showed me an email sent to all staff from the boss.
In short it read, ' I hope everyone has noticed what a fantastic job our new window cleaner has done in transforming the look of our building. Please accommodate him in any way you can so we can keep the building looking it's best and well maintained at all times'.
When you read stuff like that it's a good feeling and you know your doing the job properly.
I only got that job because one of my customers works there and put my name forward for the tendering process. Iv since picked up around a dozen new customers from the centre, as well as 2 new centres.
Gutters 4 times a year :o Who's gonna be making an appearance on Watchdog now ;D

KS Cleaning

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Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
« Reply #188 on: December 08, 2016, 04:15:54 pm »
What's he doing charging 7 or 8 pounds each
I'm like a veteran  footballer who lets the ball do the work
I'm 59 so I use my head
I reckon 90% of window cleaners are thick as pig pooo
Well if you multiply the 7 or 8 pounds x the amount of houses I clean, I can put up with anyone calling me thick. Oh and I use my head as well, by the time I'm 59 I won't need to clean any windows ;D

Anyone doing 35 houses a day won't reach 59!!!!!!
Seeing as I only average 26 hours on the glass per week I should be just fine!!!!!

Tosh

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Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
« Reply #189 on: December 08, 2016, 04:55:49 pm »
I only did one house today. That was also 6 1/2 hrs.

Only one house again today. 6 hours this time.
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Tosh

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Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
« Reply #190 on: December 08, 2016, 05:00:09 pm »
In fact it was one house on Monday.


Well one main house and 2 others on the estate owned by the fella that owns the main house plus three converted stable blocks now rented out by the same fella that owns the main house as separate apartments.

So thats one visit but 6 houses.

8 houses on Tuesday. All that reeling in does my nut ;)


Thats 16 houses this week and one tomorrow.
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jonboywalton75

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Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
« Reply #191 on: December 08, 2016, 05:42:22 pm »
I did one house a few years back
Took me 2.5 days

chris turner

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Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
« Reply #192 on: December 08, 2016, 05:56:40 pm »
I wonder......if the question was asked "who is the best window cleaner?" If everyone was on the same footing, what the answers  would be........im guessing we would all put ourselves forward.  Were all so proud of the fact that we own our own business and that dispite what anyone else does,,,,,,     
         "one" does it better still and to make sure that "one" believes that,,,,,well one has to out others down for ones own sake; "They must be charging crap prices"
"Quality must suffer"
"Had to be splash n dash"
"They must be in guiness book of records"
"How can you be soooo fit not to tire out"

One thing for sure, this thread has kept peoples interests..........for better or worse

Personally I take most things I read on here with a pinch of salt, most of my opinions come from my own experiences on the
glass and what others are up to in my neck of the woods.
Put it this way, none of the splash and dash guys in my area (and there are a few ) have any sort of reputation for quality
and tend to keep custom by offering a half decent clean at a cheaper price.
Why should I believe that any of the splash and dash guys on here would be any different ?

Some people are very good at getting the work, but cr@p at doing it.
If I think back through the whole of this last year, I can only remember 1 complaint due to workmanship, and even that I don't believe was my fault ( I know, it never is ).  That was because the poxy gardener turned up just as i finished cleaning the windows and started blowing leaves everywhere, including onto the still wet windows.

I just don't get complaints, I do the job properly.

I have an impeccable reputation for quality which is why I haven't advertised for years. Most jobs I pick up are through recommendations, including nearly all my commercial.

My fondest memory of this job is when I won a contract for a large healthcare centre, probably my best job. Windows in and out every 5 weeks, gutters 4 times a year, fascia cleaning once a year, all well priced.
They got rid of the last company because they were 'splash an dash'. The windows always looked spottier then my chin at the height of puberty. Top Sills were green, half the insides were always missed.
My price was higher then theirs even though they were vat reg and I'm not, but I got the job.
Within 10 weeks of getting the contract I'd cleared the gutters, cleaned fascias/soffits and cleaned the windows twice. It looked like a new building.
On my third visit to clean the windows I was doing the insides when one of the lady admin girls showed me an email sent to all staff from the boss.
In short it read, ' I hope everyone has noticed what a fantastic job our new window cleaner has done in transforming the look of our building. Please accommodate him in any way you can so we can keep the building looking it's best and well maintained at all times'.
When you read stuff like that it's a good feeling and you know your doing the job properly.
I only got that job because one of my customers works there and put my name forward for the tendering process. Iv since picked up around a dozen new customers from the centre, as well as 2 new centres.
Gutters 4 times a year :o Who's gonna be making an appearance on Watchdog now ;D

The centre is in the sticks, surrounded by massive trees that just seem to be constantly shredding leaves.
They requested 4 times a year, who am I to complain ;)

Mick Kent

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Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
« Reply #193 on: December 08, 2016, 05:59:17 pm »
I did 47 fronts today over 3 roads today out at 8.30 and home by 3.30, tonight im on a handover B&Q internal and travelator/balustrade glass clean roughly 9pm-12 at a guess which earns more than the 47 fronts today. Nearly a Bag of sand for 10 hours work. If only every day was as good.




nathankaye

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Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
« Reply #194 on: December 08, 2016, 07:27:23 pm »
I did 47 fronts today over 3 roads today out at 8.30 and home by 3.30, tonight im on a handover B&Q internal and travelator/balustrade glass clean roughly 9pm-12 at a guess which earns more than the 47 fronts today. Nearly a Bag of sand for 10 hours work. If only every day was as good.

Could it be argued that 47 fronts would be possibly less than 23/24 full house. 😉 😉
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Mick Kent

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Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
« Reply #195 on: December 08, 2016, 09:46:29 pm »
Of course, thats my point. 2 mins a pop easy terrace fronts.

KS Cleaning

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Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
« Reply #196 on: December 08, 2016, 11:43:49 pm »
I wonder......if the question was asked "who is the best window cleaner?" If everyone was on the same footing, what the answers  would be........im guessing we would all put ourselves forward.  Were all so proud of the fact that we own our own business and that dispite what anyone else does,,,,,,     
         "one" does it better still and to make sure that "one" believes that,,,,,well one has to out others down for ones own sake; "They must be charging crap prices"
"Quality must suffer"
"Had to be splash n dash"
"They must be in guiness book of records"
"How can you be soooo fit not to tire out"

One thing for sure, this thread has kept peoples interests..........for better or worse

Personally I take most things I read on here with a pinch of salt, most of my opinions come from my own experiences on the
glass and what others are up to in my neck of the woods.
Put it this way, none of the splash and dash guys in my area (and there are a few ) have any sort of reputation for quality
and tend to keep custom by offering a half decent clean at a cheaper price.
Why should I believe that any of the splash and dash guys on here would be any different ?

Some people are very good at getting the work, but cr@p at doing it.
If I think back through the whole of this last year, I can only remember 1 complaint due to workmanship, and even that I don't believe was my fault ( I know, it never is ).  That was because the poxy gardener turned up just as i finished cleaning the windows and started blowing leaves everywhere, including onto the still wet windows.

I just don't get complaints, I do the job properly.

I have an impeccable reputation for quality which is why I haven't advertised for years. Most jobs I pick up are through recommendations, including nearly all my commercial.

My fondest memory of this job is when I won a contract for a large healthcare centre, probably my best job. Windows in and out every 5 weeks, gutters 4 times a year, fascia cleaning once a year, all well priced.
They got rid of the last company because they were 'splash an dash'. The windows always looked spottier then my chin at the height of puberty. Top Sills were green, half the insides were always missed.
My price was higher then theirs even though they were vat reg and I'm not, but I got the job.
Within 10 weeks of getting the contract I'd cleared the gutters, cleaned fascias/soffits and cleaned the windows twice. It looked like a new building.
On my third visit to clean the windows I was doing the insides when one of the lady admin girls showed me an email sent to all staff from the boss.
In short it read, ' I hope everyone has noticed what a fantastic job our new window cleaner has done in transforming the look of our building. Please accommodate him in any way you can so we can keep the building looking it's best and well maintained at all times'.
When you read stuff like that it's a good feeling and you know your doing the job properly.
I only got that job because one of my customers works there and put my name forward for the tendering process. Iv since picked up around a dozen new customers from the centre, as well as 2 new centres.
Gutters 4 times a year :o Who's gonna be making an appearance on Watchdog now ;D

The centre is in the sticks, surrounded by massive trees that just seem to be constantly shredding leaves.
They requested 4 times a year, who am I to complain ;)
Trees only shed ( not shred ) leaves in autumn, you are ripping them off you rogue ;D

chris turner

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Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
« Reply #197 on: December 09, 2016, 07:17:47 am »
I wonder......if the question was asked "who is the best window cleaner?" If everyone was on the same footing, what the answers  would be........im guessing we would all put ourselves forward.  Were all so proud of the fact that we own our own business and that dispite what anyone else does,,,,,,     
         "one" does it better still and to make sure that "one" believes that,,,,,well one has to out others down for ones own sake; "They must be charging crap prices"
"Quality must suffer"
"Had to be splash n dash"
"They must be in guiness book of records"
"How can you be soooo fit not to tire out"

One thing for sure, this thread has kept peoples interests..........for better or worse

Personally I take most things I read on here with a pinch of salt, most of my opinions come from my own experiences on the
glass and what others are up to in my neck of the woods.
Put it this way, none of the splash and dash guys in my area (and there are a few ) have any sort of reputation for quality
and tend to keep custom by offering a half decent clean at a cheaper price.
Why should I believe that any of the splash and dash guys on here would be any different ?

Some people are very good at getting the work, but cr@p at doing it.
If I think back through the whole of this last year, I can only remember 1 complaint due to workmanship, and even that I don't believe was my fault ( I know, it never is ).  That was because the poxy gardener turned up just as i finished cleaning the windows and started blowing leaves everywhere, including onto the still wet windows.

I just don't get complaints, I do the job properly.

I have an impeccable reputation for quality which is why I haven't advertised for years. Most jobs I pick up are through recommendations, including nearly all my commercial.

My fondest memory of this job is when I won a contract for a large healthcare centre, probably my best job. Windows in and out every 5 weeks, gutters 4 times a year, fascia cleaning once a year, all well priced.
They got rid of the last company because they were 'splash an dash'. The windows always looked spottier then my chin at the height of puberty. Top Sills were green, half the insides were always missed.
My price was higher then theirs even though they were vat reg and I'm not, but I got the job.
Within 10 weeks of getting the contract I'd cleared the gutters, cleaned fascias/soffits and cleaned the windows twice. It looked like a new building.
On my third visit to clean the windows I was doing the insides when one of the lady admin girls showed me an email sent to all staff from the boss.
In short it read, ' I hope everyone has noticed what a fantastic job our new window cleaner has done in transforming the look of our building. Please accommodate him in any way you can so we can keep the building looking it's best and well maintained at all times'.
When you read stuff like that it's a good feeling and you know your doing the job properly.
I only got that job because one of my customers works there and put my name forward for the tendering process. Iv since picked up around a dozen new customers from the centre, as well as 2 new centres.
Gutters 4 times a year :o Who's gonna be making an appearance on Watchdog now ;D

The centre is in the sticks, surrounded by massive trees that just seem to be constantly shredding leaves.
They requested 4 times a year, who am I to complain ;)
Trees only shed ( not shred ) leaves in autumn, you are ripping them off you rogue ;D

Oh ok. So when is autumn nowadays? September? October? July?
A tree can be full of leaves in June before storm youratwat comes along and tears the thing apart.
When someone tells you they would like their gutters cleared 4 times a year at £500 a pop, you would turn it down I'm sure. ;)

nathankaye

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Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
« Reply #198 on: December 09, 2016, 10:10:29 am »
My six yr old son asked me last night if pirates are still alive. I told him yes but couldnt think of a suitable example to tell him.......i have one now lol  ;D ;D

Cant very well use my own example  ;D ;D lol
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Smurf

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Re: How many standard average jobs do you plan for each day as a min to do?
« Reply #199 on: December 09, 2016, 10:29:47 am »
Checking & clearing gutterring/downspouts 4 x per year is not as uncommon as people may think it is. If that's what a client wants then so be it as there is generally a good reason for a more frequient service. Mind after saying that 2 x per year is more the norm though on buildings that get blocked quicker than most.