[SeanK]

I picked 25 n over as it was in relation to adam thomsons posts in relation to cleaning over 20 houses being splash n dash.

Lol i think im being way too defensive over my own ability. Personally i dont find it a problem to clean 30 houses a day on wfp on my rounds. To me im not dashing or racing thru the day. But my work is 4wkly and so im cleaning virtually already clean glass. I have a compact round so from one spot i can clean virtually 2 houses upstairs from one garden. So when i get onto the 2nd house ive already mostly cleaned the upstairs so not waiting on drip time and i virtually only have the down stairs to do.
In addition the frames are immaculate because of frequency of cleans, so i dont always have to clean top of frames unlike u chaps who clean 8wkly or longer. I dont have many houses  tree sap on them either. Houses that normally have dog poop all over garden i gave them the choice. I either txt day b4 i come so they can open gates n clear mess or they employ someone else. They all have me txt night before. I have cards designed on vista print to say windows cleaned etc etc, so im not writing invoices or notes, wasting my time.  I park in one spot and normally move van once or twice a day, so i know my best routes when working. For faffy gardens its easier to whip the trolley out which actually saves time.
My customers who make hot drinks are well trained, they normally make it whilst im working and then i have 5 mins or so to sup drink n have a chin wag with them, which builds customer loyalty etc.
I eat big in morning b4 starting so im full all day. I love finishing end of wednesday so im organised to ensure i keep to this routine. B4 i went on wfp, i only ever got wknds off. First time in 14/15 yrs that im now getting 4 days off a wk. I call that advancement and job satisfaction now.

But that came from like i said pryor, experimenting with number of jets, water flow and type of brush i use and perfecting my technique. I took a steep learning curve when i first switched over. Perhaps thats why im defensive about my ability n being told i must be splash n dash n have quality issues 

I dont knwo why you bother answering, there are idiots on here who just say everything is impossible. Who cares about them? They can work as slowly as they want. Stuff them if they dont believe you.

What kind of nonsense/childish reply is that ? if a newbie came on here looking to know what its possible to acheve would you be
telling him/her 35 ?
It certainly wouldnt be the advice I would be giving them, take your time do the job right and price so that you dont have to
cut corners go flat out and risk quality just to make a living.
Its possible to many things in this job just because you can do something doesnt mean it the best way or right way. (roll eyes)

[nathankaye]

I dont mean massive detached houses i mean run of the mill work as Daz would call it. Bought quite a bit of work lately thats nice and compact that isnt my famous front only runs and i struggle to do 15 somedays without it getting dark from starting at 9 on domestics  My plan was to be hitting 20/25 everyday and really smash it but it just doesnt happen, lose so much time with chatty customers and gaining access waiting about! How does that compare with others?
When i do fronts i hit 30/35 with ease without having chin wags as i get through them so fast, just a shame i havnt enough for a full month anymore from selling so much off. Will get there again soon enough when i get my arse into canvass Mick mode.

This is the start of these post. Not a newbie, so no one is answering for a newbie.  To clean 30 houses quality doesnt have to suffer, if you think that, then obviously your doing something wrong. If you think you have to be working your ass off inorder to do 30 houses, your again dead wrong.
However as its already been stated, it all depends on your rounds and the houses you clean.
Obviously if a newbie was asking, peoples responses would be tailored to them.

[Smurf]

Anyhow why should we care what others can or can't do as it's none of anyone’s business surely?

[Jonny 87]

I dont mean massive detached houses i mean run of the mill work as Daz would call it. Bought quite a bit of work lately thats nice and compact that isnt my famous front only runs and i struggle to do 15 somedays without it getting dark from starting at 9 on domestics  My plan was to be hitting 20/25 everyday and really smash it but it just doesnt happen, lose so much time with chatty customers and gaining access waiting about! How does that compare with others?
When i do fronts i hit 30/35 with ease without having chin wags as i get through them so fast, just a shame i havnt enough for a full month anymore from selling so much off. Will get there again soon enough when i get my arse into canvass Mick mode.

This is the start of these post. Not a newbie, so no one is answering for a newbie.  To clean 30 houses quality doesnt have to suffer, if you think that, then obviously your doing something wrong. If you think you have to be working your ass off inorder to do 30 houses, your again dead wrong.
However as its already been stated, it all depends on your rounds and the houses you clean.
Obviously if a newbie was asking, peoples responses would be tailored to them.

I agree with that.

I think wfp has made some guys lazy or atleast unfit now, or mayb both?

Just because I can happily clean 25-30 properties in a day doesn't mean my quality is any lower than someone who cleans 15 houses but just "plods" along.

I could easily say to those guys "why don't you work more efficiently and have every afternoon off? Go fishing, see the family, play the bongos"

It's not  me working like a mad man, it's me working efficiently, and also keeping me fitter by working  at a brisk pace.

To be honest I can't think of anything worse than working like a turtle when I could have been home and finished 4 hours ago.

[Shrek]

I picked 25 n over as it was in relation to adam thomsons posts in relation to cleaning over 20 houses being splash n dash.

Lol i think im being way too defensive over my own ability. Personally i dont find it a problem to clean 30 houses a day on wfp on my rounds. To me im not dashing or racing thru the day. But my work is 4wkly and so im cleaning virtually already clean glass. I have a compact round so from one spot i can clean virtually 2 houses upstairs from one garden. So when i get onto the 2nd house ive already mostly cleaned the upstairs so not waiting on drip time and i virtually only have the down stairs to do.
In addition the frames are immaculate because of frequency of cleans, so i dont always have to clean top of frames unlike u chaps who clean 8wkly or longer. I dont have many houses  tree sap on them either. Houses that normally have dog poop all over garden i gave them the choice. I either txt day b4 i come so they can open gates n clear mess or they employ someone else. They all have me txt night before. I have cards designed on vista print to say windows cleaned etc etc, so im not writing invoices or notes, wasting my time.  I park in one spot and normally move van once or twice a day, so i know my best routes when working. For faffy gardens its easier to whip the trolley out which actually saves time.
My customers who make hot drinks are well trained, they normally make it whilst im working and then i have 5 mins or so to sup drink n have a chin wag with them, which builds customer loyalty etc.
I eat big in morning b4 starting so im full all day. I love finishing end of wednesday so im organised to ensure i keep to this routine. B4 i went on wfp, i only ever got wknds off. First time in 14/15 yrs that im now getting 4 days off a wk. I call that advancement and job satisfaction now.

But that came from like i said pryor, experimenting with number of jets, water flow and type of brush i use and perfecting my technique. I took a steep learning curve when i first switched over. Perhaps thats why im defensive about my ability n being told i must be splash n dash n have quality issues 

I dont knwo why you bother answering, there are idiots on here who just say everything is impossible. Who cares about them? They can work as slowly as they want. Stuff them if they dont believe you.

Another figure of speech would be 'Who asked you to put your neb in?' But Id never use that.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[Shrek]

I dont mean massive detached houses i mean run of the mill work as Daz would call it. Bought quite a bit of work lately thats nice and compact that isnt my famous front only runs and i struggle to do 15 somedays without it getting dark from starting at 9 on domestics  My plan was to be hitting 20/25 everyday and really smash it but it just doesnt happen, lose so much time with chatty customers and gaining access waiting about! How does that compare with others?
When i do fronts i hit 30/35 with ease without having chin wags as i get through them so fast, just a shame i havnt enough for a full month anymore from selling so much off. Will get there again soon enough when i get my arse into canvass Mick mode.

This is the start of these post. Not a newbie, so no one is answering for a newbie.  To clean 30 houses quality doesnt have to suffer, if you think that, then obviously your doing something wrong. If you think you have to be working your ass off inorder to do 30 houses, your again dead wrong.
However as its already been stated, it all depends on your rounds and the houses you clean.
Obviously if a newbie was asking, peoples responses would be tailored to them.

I agree with that.

I think wfp has made some guys lazy or atleast unfit now, or mayb both?

Just because I can happily clean 25-30 properties in a day doesn't mean my quality is any lower than someone who cleans 15 houses but just "plods" along.

I could easily say to those guys "why don't you work more efficiently and have every afternoon off? Go fishing, see the family, play the bongos"

It's not  me working like a mad man, it's me working efficiently, and also keeping me fitter by working  at a brisk pace.

To be honest I can't think of anything worse than working like a turtle when I could have been home and finished 4 hours ago.

Yes , your right..... from now on I will also squash 3 days work in to one so I can have 2 days off .
But then my workload will slowly increase over time ... so then il have to fit 35 jobs in every single day ! 
I'm soo looking forward to that

[dazmond]

each to their own.

why any of you are bothered if another window cleaner works harder and longer each day is beyond me!

20-25 full houses on run of the mill work is the limit for me working 6 hour days.i could work longer and clean more but ive had enough after 6 hours "on the glass" TBH.

[ObiwanK]

I picked 25 n over as it was in relation to adam thomsons posts in relation to cleaning over 20 houses being splash n dash.

Lol i think im being way too defensive over my own ability. Personally i dont find it a problem to clean 30 houses a day on wfp on my rounds. To me im not dashing or racing thru the day. But my work is 4wkly and so im cleaning virtually already clean glass. I have a compact round so from one spot i can clean virtually 2 houses upstairs from one garden. So when i get onto the 2nd house ive already mostly cleaned the upstairs so not waiting on drip time and i virtually only have the down stairs to do.
In addition the frames are immaculate because of frequency of cleans, so i dont always have to clean top of frames unlike u chaps who clean 8wkly or longer. I dont have many houses  tree sap on them either. Houses that normally have dog poop all over garden i gave them the choice. I either txt day b4 i come so they can open gates n clear mess or they employ someone else. They all have me txt night before. I have cards designed on vista print to say windows cleaned etc etc, so im not writing invoices or notes, wasting my time.  I park in one spot and normally move van once or twice a day, so i know my best routes when working. For faffy gardens its easier to whip the trolley out which actually saves time.
My customers who make hot drinks are well trained, they normally make it whilst im working and then i have 5 mins or so to sup drink n have a chin wag with them, which builds customer loyalty etc.
I eat big in morning b4 starting so im full all day. I love finishing end of wednesday so im organised to ensure i keep to this routine. B4 i went on wfp, i only ever got wknds off. First time in 14/15 yrs that im now getting 4 days off a wk. I call that advancement and job satisfaction now.

But that came from like i said pryor, experimenting with number of jets, water flow and type of brush i use and perfecting my technique. I took a steep learning curve when i first switched over. Perhaps thats why im defensive about my ability n being told i must be splash n dash n have quality issues 

I dont knwo why you bother answering, there are idiots on here who just say everything is impossible. Who cares about them? They can work as slowly as they want. Stuff them if they dont believe you.

What kind of nonsense/childish reply is that ? if a newbie came on here looking to know what its possible to acheve would you be
telling him/her 35 ?
It certainly wouldnt be the advice I would be giving them, take your time do the job right and price so that you dont have to
cut corners go flat out and risk quality just to make a living.
Its possible to many things in this job just because you can do something doesnt mean it the best way or right way. (roll eyes)

See, youre doing exactly what I said. 'you have to cut corners' 'risk quality'. Youre just saying its impossible. Like I said you would. Just because you cant do something or dont want to doesnt mean everyone is like you. But youre always the same. Everyone else is wrong.

And the question youve asked isnt the question the threads about. It wasnt a newbie asking, was it? OP has been doing this for years and was wondering why hes struggling to do 15.

[Smurf]

each to their own.

why any of you are bothered if another window cleaner works harder and longer each day is beyond me!

20-25 full houses on run of the mill work is the limit for me working 6 hour days.i could work longer and clean more but ive had enough after 6 hours "on the glass" TBH.

6 hours now that would do my sweed in working so slow 
2 hour at the most then an afternoon nap works for me. They don't call me the splash n dash cowboy for nothing you know 

[Mick Kent]

I cant remember ever only doing 15 in a day before i did just fronts, i thought was closer to 30 but am getting nowhere near with this lot so maybe im wrong.
Only have 80 of them to do so next month gonna try do them in 4 days instead of 6 by starting earlier and not talking so much with them, main reason i did this time was first time meeting them but even still i was working whilst talking!
Maybe a pointless thread as deep down i know that more is easily possible, it is nice to see what the average daily window cleans are doable from other fellow shiners around the country.
I agree its what is earnt in the day more than how many houses but considering we all charge different the best way to compare is by the amount of average size semi's done over a day.

[Smurf]

Mick I would take what some say on here with a pinch of salt so to speak. 

[SeanK]

I picked 25 n over as it was in relation to adam thomsons posts in relation to cleaning over 20 houses being splash n dash.

Lol i think im being way too defensive over my own ability. Personally i dont find it a problem to clean 30 houses a day on wfp on my rounds. To me im not dashing or racing thru the day. But my work is 4wkly and so im cleaning virtually already clean glass. I have a compact round so from one spot i can clean virtually 2 houses upstairs from one garden. So when i get onto the 2nd house ive already mostly cleaned the upstairs so not waiting on drip time and i virtually only have the down stairs to do.
In addition the frames are immaculate because of frequency of cleans, so i dont always have to clean top of frames unlike u chaps who clean 8wkly or longer. I dont have many houses  tree sap on them either. Houses that normally have dog poop all over garden i gave them the choice. I either txt day b4 i come so they can open gates n clear mess or they employ someone else. They all have me txt night before. I have cards designed on vista print to say windows cleaned etc etc, so im not writing invoices or notes, wasting my time.  I park in one spot and normally move van once or twice a day, so i know my best routes when working. For faffy gardens its easier to whip the trolley out which actually saves time.
My customers who make hot drinks are well trained, they normally make it whilst im working and then i have 5 mins or so to sup drink n have a chin wag with them, which builds customer loyalty etc.
I eat big in morning b4 starting so im full all day. I love finishing end of wednesday so im organised to ensure i keep to this routine. B4 i went on wfp, i only ever got wknds off. First time in 14/15 yrs that im now getting 4 days off a wk. I call that advancement and job satisfaction now.

But that came from like i said pryor, experimenting with number of jets, water flow and type of brush i use and perfecting my technique. I took a steep learning curve when i first switched over. Perhaps thats why im defensive about my ability n being told i must be splash n dash n have quality issues 

I dont knwo why you bother answering, there are idiots on here who just say everything is impossible. Who cares about them? They can work as slowly as they want. Stuff them if they dont believe you.

What kind of nonsense/childish reply is that ? if a newbie came on here looking to know what its possible to acheve would you be
telling him/her 35 ?
It certainly wouldnt be the advice I would be giving them, take your time do the job right and price so that you dont have to
cut corners go flat out and risk quality just to make a living.
Its possible to many things in this job just because you can do something doesnt mean it the best way or right way. (roll eyes)

See, youre doing exactly what I said. 'you have to cut corners' 'risk quality'. Youre just saying its impossible. Like I said you would. Just because you cant do something or dont want to doesnt mean everyone is like you. But youre always the same. Everyone else is wrong.

And the question youve asked isnt the question the threads about. It wasnt a newbie asking, was it? OP has been doing this for years and was wondering why hes struggling to do 15.

Very good at least you have replied like an adult (sort of), in my opinion you cant knock those sort of numbers out without quality
suffering in your opinion we can, some will agree with you some will agree with me but there's no need for a hissy fit.

[supernova77]

Tomorrow I'll be cleaning 6 houses...

Simon in the other van has 10 to do...

But we'll both turn over roughly the same amount of ££.

As has been already said - the number of houses cleaned in a day is irrelevant.

[Smurf]

Tomorrow I'll be cleaning 6 houses...

Simon in the other van has 10 to do...

But we'll both turn over roughly the same amount of ££.

As has been already said - the number of houses cleaned in a day is irrelevant.

Exactly my point 

[Frankybadboy]

I can run a four minute mile wearing a full backpack, carrying an Xtreme pole.

remember i seen you run!!!!! i think you mean forty minutes

[KS Cleaning]

Mick I would take what some say on here with a pinch of salt so to speak.

I agree, I mean there's just no way anyone can charge £25 for a 3 bedder 

[KS Cleaning]

I cleaned 44  modern detached mostly 3 and a few 4 bedroom houses on Wednesday between 8 and 2 45, don't get me wrong, this is the cream of my work and I can't achieve these numbers in other areas. I have been waiting by my phone waiting on the customer complaints coming in as according to some on here they can't possibly be cleaned properly...........Guess what, no complaints, just the usual online payments coming in with a few xmas tips thrown in for good measure, I'm happy, customers are happy, that's all.

[Og]

I don't do 44 in a week!

[Smurf]

Mick I would take what some say on here with a pinch of salt so to speak.

I agree, I mean there's just no way anyone can charge £25 for a 3 bedder 

No you are right as they would normally get a free window clean thrown in on a 500 and above exterior clean so saves themselves 25 squid at least

[chris turner]

Tomorrow I'll be cleaning 6 houses...

Simon in the other van has 10 to do...

But we'll both turn over roughly the same amount of ££.

As has been already said - the number of houses cleaned in a day is irrelevant.

Your just down the road from me . In fact saw you or your other van parked at a garage not long ago along mill lane.