[SeanK]

So for agument sake lets just assume a one man band using wfp method could quite easaly bash out 35 x 3 bedders a day at say 25 squid a pop in under 7 hours. That would be quite something don't you think... Not quite 1000 squid a day but getting close. lol

Exactly, but even at a tenner your talking £1750 for a five day week, if you only worked 30 weeks per year its £52.5k
not bad eh. lol.

I don't work 5 days a week Sean, part of the reason I work hard is to get more time off.

That's why I said 30 weeks as it gives you 22  weeks or 110 working days off in whatever way suits.

Still a bit different saying £1750 for a five day week when I don't work five days. Do you know of anyone who works a five day week for 30 weeks then has 22 weeks off? Does the lol at the end of your post infer that you don't believe how many houses I clean?

No I'm just pointing out the amount of cash that can be earned for x amount of hours, spread it out over 52 weeks if you want.
the lol is because you didn't understand that.

You are wrong, you put the lol before I even responded to you, so at that point you would have been unaware if I understand simple maths or not ....lol

If your talking about my reply to Smurf the lol is about how easy it is to earn £52.5k a year with low pricing, its nothing to do with your post.

[Stoots]

Those new builds with simple windows are obv lot quicker.

When you're doing a mix of terraced,  bay windows etc it slows you down.

Then you've got awkward side windows down a narrow area full of crap, slippy decks, trees, ornaments.

Plus mist of my windows never seem so easy there's always bird crap, sap or something that you have to take more time on.

I believe you can do 20 plus a day but it's going to be slap dash, now I've always thought the more work I get the quicker I can go with a drop in quality.

If you can do a less than perfect job and get away with it because no one says owt then your on to a winner.

[Shrek]

I do the same as Chris turner , I'm not interested in getting hundreds and hundreds of jobs , I prefer less work but higher priced . It's great looking at the job sheet for the day knowing Iv got between 10-20 jobs to do

[nathankaye]

Men cant go to the moon!
What no horse and ride with an engine!!
Men cant fly its impossible!!
What do u mean the earth isnt flat, your insane!!!
Cant clean more than 25 houses without it being splash n dash!!!

https://youtu.be/jtLlnC4UaLk
All the people who would have held advancement back just because there the ones who couldnt believe or do it!!

[Shrek]

Men cant go to the moon!
What no horse and ride with an engine!!
Men cant fly its impossible!!
What do u mean the earth isnt flat, your insane!!!
Cant clean more than 25 houses without it being splash n dash!!!

https://youtu.be/jtLlnC4UaLk
All the people who would have held advancement back just because there the ones who couldnt believe or do it!!

Can't really compare people stirring rice and chopping vegetables fast to water fed poling

[nathankaye]

Point being, unless you try and do, people will always say it cant be done.
Like in vid, bet some on here would take their time and serve saying they cant go any faster without spoiling the "what ever"
Yet it can and its being done.

[Shrek]

That video isn't a very good example , it's like me putting this

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Zlx-YtXRrmk

Because he can do that in 3 seconds, that ultimately means I can wfp 6 houses an hour

[chris turner]

Men cant go to the moon!
What no horse and ride with an engine!!
Men cant fly its impossible!!
What do u mean the earth isnt flat, your insane!!!
Cant clean more than 25 houses without it being splash n dash!!!

https://youtu.be/jtLlnC4UaLk
All the people who would have held advancement back just because there the ones who couldnt believe or do it!!

Sorry nath, you genuinely seem like a nice guy so I don't like to disrespect you, but having to bash out 25 houses a day on your own isn't advancement.
For me that would be a step back.
Maybe it can be done but it shouldn't have to be, after all didn't you become your own boss to have an easier work life?
Honestly the thought of looking at my worksheet for the week and seeing 150 houses to get through on my own fills me with despair.

You can't possibly tell me you wouldn't want to have less then half that amount of work to get through but still be earning the same, or even more?

My rounds are by no means perfect. There a mix n match of good stuff and what I would class as ok work. Even then I hate the 12 house days when compared to the 2 job days. Advancement to me is every day being a 2 or 3 job day, or at least 2-3 days a week of 2 job days.

I was doing 12-15 houses everyday about 15 months ago, a £3/£4 price rise then switching nearly all residential to 8 weekly sorted that out.
Basically I carried on earning the same money but with less work to do.
You need to refine your work every year, cut the crap and identity areas where the prices need to go up or you need bigger and better jobs.

[Dave Willis]

I can run a four minute mile wearing a full backpack, carrying an Xtreme pole.

[SeanK]

You see this in all professions, guys who can work quick because they're skilled at using their tools and can achieve
excellent results, they just have a natural ability.
You have the guys who will achieve just as good a result but it just doesn't come as easy to them as it does for the first group
so tend to be slower.
Then you have the guys that just go quick for the sake of being quick and really don't have a clue what they're doing.
All three can be successful.

[SeanK]

I can run a four minute mile wearing a full backpack, carrying an Xtreme pole.

That's nothing I can do that carrying a Brodex 30ft  Alloy complete with a Vikan sill brush.

[andyM]

I can run a four minute mile wearing a full backpack, carrying an Xtreme pole.

I'm doing it in 3:59 with full backpack, extreme pole and a packet of custard creams. 
You must be doing something wrong. 

[nathankaye]

Men cant go to the moon!
What no horse and ride with an engine!!
Men cant fly its impossible!!
What do u mean the earth isnt flat, your insane!!!
Cant clean more than 25 houses without it being splash n dash!!!

https://youtu.be/jtLlnC4UaLk
All the people who would have held advancement back just because there the ones who couldnt believe or do it!!

Sorry nath, you genuinely seem like a nice guy so I don't like to disrespect you, but having to bash out 25 houses a day on your own isn't advancement.
For me that would be a step back.
Maybe it can be done but it shouldn't have to be, after all didn't you become your own boss to have an easier work life?
Honestly the thought of looking at my worksheet for the week and seeing 150 houses to get through on my own fills me with despair.

You can't possibly tell me you wouldn't want to have less then half that amount of work to get through but still be earning the same, or even more?

My rounds are by no means perfect. There a mix n match of good stuff and what I would class as ok work. Even then I hate the 12 house days when compared to the 2 job days. Advancement to me is every day being a 2 or 3 job day, or at least 2-3 days a week of 2 job days.

I was doing 12-15 houses everyday about 15 months ago, a £3/£4 price rise then switching nearly all residential to 8 weekly sorted that out.
Basically I carried on earning the same money but with less work to do.
You need to refine your work every year, cut the crap and identity areas where the prices need to go up or you need bigger and better jobs.

I absolutely agree, thats why i said in an earlier post, my work for the week is finished by roughly half four on a wednesday, giving me thurs to sunday off. Its brilliant being your own boss and refining your work and improving ability.

[SeanK]

Men cant go to the moon!
What no horse and ride with an engine!!
Men cant fly its impossible!!
What do u mean the earth isnt flat, your insane!!!
Cant clean more than 25 houses without it being splash n dash!!!

https://youtu.be/jtLlnC4UaLk
All the people who would have held advancement back just because there the ones who couldnt believe or do it!!

Sorry nath, you genuinely seem like a nice guy so I don't like to disrespect you, but having to bash out 25 houses a day on your own isn't advancement.
For me that would be a step back.
Maybe it can be done but it shouldn't have to be, after all didn't you become your own boss to have an easier work life?
Honestly the thought of looking at my worksheet for the week and seeing 150 houses to get through on my own fills me with despair.

You can't possibly tell me you wouldn't want to have less then half that amount of work to get through but still be earning the same, or even more?

My rounds are by no means perfect. There a mix n match of good stuff and what I would class as ok work. Even then I hate the 12 house days when compared to the 2 job days. Advancement to me is every day being a 2 or 3 job day, or at least 2-3 days a week of 2 job days.

I was doing 12-15 houses everyday about 15 months ago, a £3/£4 price rise then switching nearly all residential to 8 weekly sorted that out.
Basically I carried on earning the same money but with less work to do.
You need to refine your work every year, cut the crap and identity areas where the prices need to go up or you need bigger and better jobs.

I absolutely agree, thats why i said in an earlier post, my work for the week is finished by roughly half four on a wednesday, giving me thurs to sunday off. Its brilliant being your own boss and refining your work and improving ability.

See your down to 25 or more properties Nathan, (wink) getting closer to reality eh. lol.

[Dave Willis]

I can run a four minute mile wearing a full backpack, carrying an Xtreme pole.

I'm doing it in 3:59 with full backpack, extreme pole and a packet of custard creams. 
You must be doing something wrong. 

and I can do the hurdles!

[nathankaye]

I picked 25 n over as it was in relation to adam thomsons posts in relation to cleaning over 20 houses being splash n dash.

Lol i think im being way too defensive over my own ability. Personally i dont find it a problem to clean 30 houses a day on wfp on my rounds. To me im not dashing or racing thru the day. But my work is 4wkly and so im cleaning virtually already clean glass. I have a compact round so from one spot i can clean virtually 2 houses upstairs from one garden. So when i get onto the 2nd house ive already mostly cleaned the upstairs so not waiting on drip time and i virtually only have the down stairs to do.
In addition the frames are immaculate because of frequency of cleans, so i dont always have to clean top of frames unlike u chaps who clean 8wkly or longer. I dont have many houses  tree sap on them either. Houses that normally have dog poop all over garden i gave them the choice. I either txt day b4 i come so they can open gates n clear mess or they employ someone else. They all have me txt night before. I have cards designed on vista print to say windows cleaned etc etc, so im not writing invoices or notes, wasting my time.  I park in one spot and normally move van once or twice a day, so i know my best routes when working. For faffy gardens its easier to whip the trolley out which actually saves time.
My customers who make hot drinks are well trained, they normally make it whilst im working and then i have 5 mins or so to sup drink n have a chin wag with them, which builds customer loyalty etc.
I eat big in morning b4 starting so im full all day. I love finishing end of wednesday so im organised to ensure i keep to this routine. B4 i went on wfp, i only ever got wknds off. First time in 14/15 yrs that im now getting 4 days off a wk. I call that advancement and job satisfaction now.

But that came from like i said pryor, experimenting with number of jets, water flow and type of brush i use and perfecting my technique. I took a steep learning curve when i first switched over. Perhaps thats why im defensive about my ability n being told i must be splash n dash n have quality issues 

[nathankaye]

Thumbs hurt now, so gonna have a rest from this thread. 

Also i m8ght post a disclaimer to get a coffee b4 reading my posts haha 

[SeanK]

Not to worry Nathan your bound to be defensive especially if busting your hump, seriously mate I don't see the
point in killing yourself just to get finished earlier in the week, but each to their own.

[ObiwanK]

I picked 25 n over as it was in relation to adam thomsons posts in relation to cleaning over 20 houses being splash n dash.

Lol i think im being way too defensive over my own ability. Personally i dont find it a problem to clean 30 houses a day on wfp on my rounds. To me im not dashing or racing thru the day. But my work is 4wkly and so im cleaning virtually already clean glass. I have a compact round so from one spot i can clean virtually 2 houses upstairs from one garden. So when i get onto the 2nd house ive already mostly cleaned the upstairs so not waiting on drip time and i virtually only have the down stairs to do.
In addition the frames are immaculate because of frequency of cleans, so i dont always have to clean top of frames unlike u chaps who clean 8wkly or longer. I dont have many houses  tree sap on them either. Houses that normally have dog poop all over garden i gave them the choice. I either txt day b4 i come so they can open gates n clear mess or they employ someone else. They all have me txt night before. I have cards designed on vista print to say windows cleaned etc etc, so im not writing invoices or notes, wasting my time.  I park in one spot and normally move van once or twice a day, so i know my best routes when working. For faffy gardens its easier to whip the trolley out which actually saves time.
My customers who make hot drinks are well trained, they normally make it whilst im working and then i have 5 mins or so to sup drink n have a chin wag with them, which builds customer loyalty etc.
I eat big in morning b4 starting so im full all day. I love finishing end of wednesday so im organised to ensure i keep to this routine. B4 i went on wfp, i only ever got wknds off. First time in 14/15 yrs that im now getting 4 days off a wk. I call that advancement and job satisfaction now.

But that came from like i said pryor, experimenting with number of jets, water flow and type of brush i use and perfecting my technique. I took a steep learning curve when i first switched over. Perhaps thats why im defensive about my ability n being told i must be splash n dash n have quality issues 

I dont knwo why you bother answering, there are idiots on here who just say everything is impossible. Who cares about them? They can work as slowly as they want. Stuff them if they dont believe you.

[Smurf]

I thought my tongue in cheek "Splash n Dash" comment would raise a few eyebrows 
How about this one then "Try working smarter not harder as numbers don't mean jack really."