[Arnold Palmer]

We have gone a bit of topic from the op but if that works for you then fair play.

I still don't understand fully why the chap wants to heat the water up in his garage ibc storage tanks though. I assume it was to help stop the water freezing as would be a costly and inefficient way if he wanted to heat the water up to use warm water for wfp work surely?

I could use one of these instead of a heater element in my vehicle.

[Smurf]

You could also use one of these if you wanted too  http://direct.asda.com/slumberdown-electric-blanket-single/002257085,default,pd.html?cmpid=ppc-_-george-_-ggle-pla-_-OD20BATH_KIDS_FURNISHINGS-_--_-dskwid-s92700014242725428_dc&gclid=CjwKEAiA3qXBBRD4_b_V7ZLFsX4SJAB0AtEVQq8nSqFbnVAVtqYM-F3yJc6ur_eNXQRO9XetGtNCKhoCzSHw_wcB

[AuRavelling79]

You could also use one of these if you wanted too  http://direct.asda.com/slumberdown-electric-blanket-single/002257085,default,pd.html?cmpid=ppc-_-george-_-ggle-pla-_-OD20BATH_KIDS_FURNISHINGS-_--_-dskwid-s92700014242725428_dc&gclid=CjwKEAiA3qXBBRD4_b_V7ZLFsX4SJAB0AtEVQq8nSqFbnVAVtqYM-F3yJc6ur_eNXQRO9XetGtNCKhoCzSHw_wcB

Yebbut that thing is about 60w. The other thing is 1400w. 

[Smurf]

OK how about this then?  http://www.hottubdiy.co.uk/auto-heater-2kw.html?gclid=CjwKEAiA3qXBBRD4_b_V7ZLFsX4SJAB0AtEV90CHnxUJ9z09gD0T7BJGbvBldNMFyXMnZ7XOzBqhehoCOl7w_wcB

They also do a 3kw version http://www.hottubdiy.co.uk/auto-heater-3kw.html

Simple bit of plumbing and away you go. No more drilling holes in your tank to fit an emersion element. No more cold spots in your baffled tank either as the water will be recalculated back to the tank constantly while it’s on. Could be also used as hose reel frost protection too by hooking it up to the hose reel that runs back into the tank.

If you have ever owned a hot tub you will know how hot the water can get using this type of heater pump.

[Smurf]

OK how about this then?   http://www.hottubdiy.co.uk/auto-heater-2kw.html?gclid=CjwKEAiA3qXBBRD4_b_V7ZLFsX4SJAB0AtEV90CHnxUJ9z09gD0T7BJGbvBldNMFyXMnZ7XOzBqhehoCOl7w_wcB

They also do a 3kw version http://www.hottubdiy.co.uk/auto-heater-3kw.html

Simple bit of plumbing and away you go. No more drilling holes in your tank to fit an emersion element. No more cold spots in your baffled tank either as the water will be recalculated back to the tank constantly while it’s on. Could be also used as hose reel frost protection too by hooking it up to the hose reel that runs back into the tank.

If you have ever owned a hot tub you will know how hot the water can get using this type of heater pump.

Got to be worth investigating further surely folks ? 

[AuRavelling79]

Good one Smurf. The hot tub pump heater thing.   

 

[Smurf]

I even surprise myself at times   

[Dave Willis]

Cut the top off your IBC tank, chuck in a bottle of vision and climb in. Hot tub for £100.

[G & M]

Anyone got ideas on how to fit one and how to wire it up. Would it work off of an ordinary socket

[Smurf]

Cut the top off your IBC tank, chuck in a bottle of vision and climb in. Hot tub for £100.

I can make my own bubbles in the bath so don't need vision for that   

[Smurf]

Anyone got ideas on how to fit one and how to wire it up. Would it work off of an ordinary socket

I've sent them an email to find out if the 3kw version would be suitable for a van tank etc and await their reply.

As for mains hook-up being 3kw as I'm no sparky so would be best to seek professional advice.  However I'm aware some using emersion heater elements in the van tank like to use heavy duty arctic cable as the extension cable and run it off a separate house spur/breaker which is then cabled up to a separate outside waterproof socket to plug into. I'm sure there are electrical regs that must be followed regards to this so like I said before best speak to a sparky to do the electrical side for you so it's done properly and safely.

[the king]

y dont u just go and speak to stephen scargill off face book he does insalated tanks with  bilt in heaters 

[HCS]

"If full power is available to heat up water without any heat losses to the environment it would take 50 hours to heat the water from 10°C to 70°C."

70 would be bloomin hot but 50 hours?

Fitting an element to your van tank is dead easy and far cheaper, cost me about seventy quid including an insulating jacket. Heating to 30 degrees is about 12kw hours of electric every night. 650L

Is there a thread on here of how to fit an immersion?

[David Beecroft]

My only observation regarding putting a heated pad under the tank is the friction generated by the vehicle movement. In the advert it shows the ibc tank in a static position but even the most solid fixings in a van aren't going to prevent the tank form vibrating and moving slightly. Surely with a short period of time it would mangle the wiring in the pad?

[Frankybadboy]

A local tank fabricator is manufacturing tanks with virtually zero heat loss, fitted with elements. They work really well, as i know a couple of lads that have them

Who making these tanks? Stephen Scargill?

best of luck 

[Smurf]

Well you can scrap that hot tub heater pump idea as was told it would not be anygood 

[HCS]

Why would it not be any good Smurf?

[nathankaye]

Why would it not be any good Smurf?

Thats a pain as was really keen on that idea.
Would i be right in thinking its the volume of water. Lol would i be right in thinking    ive no idea

[Smurf]

The chap mentioned something about air locks and the heater would burn out. To be honest I wasn't really listen after he said it would not be suitable.

[nathankaye]

The chap mentioned something about air locks and the heater would burn out. To be honest I wasn't really listen after he said it would not be suitable.

Could he have misunderstood. Thinking that it would be used at the pump end heating water coming out the tank. Rather than it being submerged in a static tank on a timer, using its inbuilt thermostat over night. (Shows my fast unlimted knowledge, as thats how i was gonna use it. May be utterly wrong)