[Bernd]

I have to clean a hotel with more than 1000 qm. The hallways, some rooms and different restaurants. They want fast drying times and it is perfect to clean with my Orbot.

But which product or encap solution would you choose to clean the greasy restaurants?

I cleaned two other hotels (hallways, reception area and the dirty areas in front of the elevators) with Dynamall and the results were very good...but it smelled very strong . Most important thing the hotel manager was very pleased with the final results.

But i am a little bit insecure if Dynamall can handle the greasy soiled restaurants carpets...

Which product would you recommend when short drying drimes are required?

Thanks in advance for your help!

[Tony Stewart]

John Kelly is the man for this...................with respect there comes a point where you will need to hot water extract the badly soiled areas, then go with the Dynamall. Only you know how bad it is but on any commercial job do not attempt anything that you cannot deliver. They may want quick drying times in their dreams but above all else they want it clean as a given. Look at HWE if necessary and doing ity out of hours so it can dry.................then you need to decide if you can get a premium for this - that's for you to decide.

[Bernd]

John Kelly is the man for this...................with respect there comes a point where you will need to hot water extract the badly soiled areas, then go with the Dynamall. Only you know how bad it is but on any commercial job do not attempt anything that you cannot deliver. They may want quick drying times in their dreams but above all else they want it clean as a given. Look at HWE if necessary and doing ity out of hours so it can dry.................then you need to decide if you can get a premium for this - that's for you to decide.

Thanks Tony. The restaurants carpets are not that bad. If they would be that bad and black i would walk away...

I contacted John. Good idea.  He is great and gave me the advice of using Restore-iT Powdered Microsplitter, a oxy boosted pre-spray  first and then Dynamall.  Anyone used this product and has some experience?

http://www.restormate.co.uk/epages/15094.sf/en_GB/?ObjectID=27455227

[tim handley]

i would pre spray enzall and hot water extract with a good in tank detergent on the heavy grease areas, then get some dynamal down and get out the cimex, or a rotary if you dont have a cimex, works for me, done some nasty nasty indian restaurants this way and always got great results...............

[Ian Harper]

Bernd

When you quote draw up 3 different specs and prices and let them choose. You can always price in help and buff off (friction dry) after extraction.

Good luck

[*Hector*]

Probably because the custard would always choose the cheapest, and then blame the cleaner if the job was not as dry as he would have wanted, or up to the same standard as the most expensive spec....

[Tony Stewart]

I just sense Bernd that you are trying to make the clean fit to the machine. I am not knocking the Dynamall but if you do not think it will work then make a decision and don't do it. Explain to the customer why and talk him though the options. If it is a greasy restaurant then my view is to hot water extract. As Hector says the cheapest option is the most attractive but may not be the correct one to get paid for.
If John says that then fine. I would just wonder that there are two sets of chemicals left in the carpet. Maybe he says use Restore It in HWE then Dynamall.
It's hard to give advice as I am not standing in front of the customer having the conversation. If it is an office enviroment 7 floors up and they commercial carpet tiles then use the Orbot and Dynamal. If it is a greasy restaurant carpet on the ground floor then I would use a truckmount and then bonnet off with Dynamall then the carpet would look a million dollars but I get a premium for that and the customer is thrilled to bits...................in between is the answer.

[Bernd]

Thanks for all your advices and replies. I decided that i won't clean the restaurant carpets. I don't want a "semi" good result and leave a unhappy customer.

Normally i clean offices and some hotel hallways and my LM system works very good. But as you all mentioned...it won't be the right decision and solution to clean greasy restuarant carpets.

[elliott cleaning]

I reckon John  Kelly is correct.  If as Bernd says - the restaurant  carpets aren't to bad - then you can achieve good results with bonnet together with encap.  If you have black top usually coming out of the kitchen then HWE with a truckmount set at high heat is the only solution

[Bernd]

I reckon John  Kelly is correct.  If as Bernd says - the restaurant  carpets aren't to bad - then you can achieve good results with bonnet together with encap.  If you have black top usually coming out of the kitchen then HWE with a truckmount set at high heat is the only solution

Yes, the restuarant carpets aren't to bad, but i don't want to experiment on customers carpet...i think it is better to give up one job than getting a unsatisfied customer...

But one question i asked in one of my last posts...the product John Kelly recommend... Restore-it...has anyone used it?