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E.C.S

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Alexander Swan - Disappointed
« on: October 26, 2016, 01:17:57 am »
After seeing a paid for advert on here regarding Alexander Swans "we won't be beaten on price" i decided to contact them and get a quote for my Transit Custom with my GT system.

I went through all the details and declared my total loss from last year (theft) along with over 9 years protected no claims with no points , after explaining everything down to my dreams at night i told them that A-Plan had quoted me £900 with all the bells and whistles and i looked forward to receiving their quote.

They came back with a offer at just over £1,100 with no protection on my no claims bonus  :o They must think I'm racing around southend at night with the rest of the boy racers!

I wouldn't mind but most of the actual insurers low ball you as soon as you need to claim for something.

Apart from being disappointed with their "we won't be beaten on price" slogan it got me thinking, what are you water fed pole guys paying for your vans insurance after declaring you have a system fitted?

DaveG

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Re: Alexander Swan - Disappointed
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2016, 06:11:13 am »
I've actually just gone over to AS after checking with my current (ex) insurer about water tank cover. They informed me that I would not be covered for a 650 litre tank, even though I was told on the phone at quote stage that it would be!

AS quoted me just over £300 for a Renault Trafic with 9 years ncb (protected) comprehensive and water tank bolted in. My old insurer was charging slightly more.

Lesson to me.... Get it in writing!
You can't polish a turd

Dave Willis

Re: Alexander Swan - Disappointed
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2016, 07:28:26 am »
£180 fully comp, 650l Pure Freedom bolted in. Toyota Hiace
Onesure

Clever Forum Name

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Re: Alexander Swan - Disappointed
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2016, 08:13:19 am »
£1200 3 vans.

AS £1100 1 van.

SeanK

Re: Alexander Swan - Disappointed
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2016, 09:12:48 am »
What's your tank got to do with it, as long as its secured and under the payload then its not illegal to carry a tank of water.
I'm insured with Axa  £280 with a bolted in tank which they have no interest in and didn't even come up when I was involved in an accident.
Some of you guys are being well suckered.

jonboywalton75

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Re: Alexander Swan - Disappointed
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2016, 09:34:06 am »
What's your tank got to do with it, as long as its secured and under the payload then its not illegal to carry a tank of water.
I'm insured with Axa  £280 with a bolted in tank which they have no interest in and didn't even come up when I was involved in an accident.
Some of you guys are being well suckered.

Does make you wonder doesn't it!!!
I was quoted 660 for a 64 registered transit custom with strapped in 650 tank by Adrian Flux
A plan said they could do it for 570
Rang AF back and miraculously they undercut  A plan by a £1
All insurers  are willing to haggle ( that's putting it diplomatically)

SeanK

Re: Alexander Swan - Disappointed
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2016, 09:41:51 am »
What's your tank got to do with it, as long as its secured and under the payload then its not illegal to carry a tank of water.
I'm insured with Axa  £280 with a bolted in tank which they have no interest in and didn't even come up when I was involved in an accident.
Some of you guys are being well suckered.

Does make you wonder doesn't it!!!
I was quoted 660 for a 64 registered transit custom with strapped in 650 tank by Adrian Flux
A plan said they could do it for 570
Rang AF back and miraculously they undercut  A plan by a £1
All insurers  are willing to haggle ( that's putting it diplomatically)

Exactly, for a start a strapped in tank isn't even a modification so as long as its not illegal to carry then its none of the insurers
business as it would insured under work related equipment.

Lee Pryor

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Re: Alexander Swan - Disappointed
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2016, 09:46:30 am »
£8500 for 11 vans and systems with A Plan. Was with AS until we got 4th van then terrible on price and could not do a proper fleet policy.
The best way to predict the future is to create it.

Lee Pryor

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Re: Alexander Swan - Disappointed
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2016, 09:48:02 am »
They also do our public liability and my employer liability.

Also very good 2 years ago when one van was written off

Can't fault them.
The best way to predict the future is to create it.

E.C.S

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Re: Alexander Swan - Disappointed
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2016, 10:42:22 am »
Some of you sound like you have gotten amazing deals! I can only dream of a price under £500 I'm not sure why they continue to hit me with silly prices.

I am 35 and the van is a 64 plate yet I'm always the wrong side of £800

jonboywalton75

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Re: Alexander Swan - Disappointed
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2016, 11:25:29 am »
Some of you sound like you have gotten amazing deals! I can only dream of a price under £500 I'm not sure why they continue to hit me with silly prices.


I am 35 and the van is a 64 plate yet I'm always the wrong side of £800

My van is 64 plate but I'm 59
Being an old git has some benefits!!!!!

johnny bravo

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Re: Alexander Swan - Disappointed
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2016, 11:28:03 am »
My citroen dispatch 09, is due 15/nov.     Im waiting for my renewal to come back from Gladiator, Insurance.     They were the Cheapest with a 500 litre butt strapped in back. 
Ill be hitting the comparison sites in a weeks tiime.

duncan h

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Re: Alexander Swan - Disappointed
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2016, 11:50:30 am »
What's your tank got to do with it, as long as its secured and under the payload then its not illegal to carry a tank of water.
I'm insured with Axa  £280 with a bolted in tank which they have no interest in and didn't even come up when I was involved in an accident.
Some of you guys are being well suckered.

Does make you wonder doesn't it!!!
I was quoted 660 for a 64 registered transit custom with strapped in 650 tank by Adrian Flux
A plan said they could do it for 570
Rang AF back and miraculously they undercut  A plan by a £1
All insurers  are willing to haggle ( that's putting it diplomatically)

Exactly, for a start a strapped in tank isn't even a modification so as long as its not illegal to carry then its none of the insurers
business as it would insured under work related equipment.
That's why my tank is strapped in

Pete Thompson

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Re: Alexander Swan - Disappointed
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2016, 12:56:37 pm »
I'm with Alexander Swan and this is what I pay for a 2009 VW Caddy Van with a 400 Litre Pure2o System installed:

Commercial Van Motor Insurance : £340
WFP System with Poles + Ancillaries : £150 (Insured amount £5k)
Replacement Vehicle (with Reach & Wash system) Cover : £85
Legal Expenses Cover : £4.72
Total : £579.72

Also, if you have a tank in the back, it's no use relying on "oh I told them and they said it was ok".  You must have it specifically detailed in the policy wording, otherwise you're not covered.

As for tanks that are strapped in - some insurers consider it a modification, some don't.  You'll only find out for certain when you come to make a claim - which is obviously too late.

Each to his own (and I'd never presume to tell anyone what they should do) but personally I would never risk driving about with a tank unless I knew for certain that it was on the policy wording.

Arnold Palmer

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Re: Alexander Swan - Disappointed
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2016, 01:03:03 pm »
Carrying stuff is what vans are for.

Has anyone ever been refused a payout because of a tank?

SeanK

Re: Alexander Swan - Disappointed
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2016, 01:21:03 pm »
Carrying stuff is what vans are for.

Has anyone ever been refused a payout because of a tank?

Exactly soupy, doesn't matter if its loaded up with bricks or a tank of water as long as they are carried in a legal manor
and needed for your business.
Stick to a reputable company/ broker and you wont have a problem.

8weekly

Re: Alexander Swan - Disappointed
« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2016, 01:49:27 pm »
£8500 for 11 vans and systems with A Plan. Was with AS until we got 4th van then terrible on price and could not do a proper fleet policy.
That seems high to me. We're on three vans and £1,200 but it's not a "fleet" policy although all are on the one policy. I think as they are all named drivers it's not a fleet policy. That's how I understood it.

Lee Pryor

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Re: Alexander Swan - Disappointed
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2016, 02:42:33 pm »
That's right.

Anyone that's over 25 can jump in any of mine and I don't need to make a phone call.
The best way to predict the future is to create it.

8weekly

Re: Alexander Swan - Disappointed
« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2016, 02:59:23 pm »
That's right.

Anyone that's over 25 can jump in any of mine and I don't need to make a phone call.
Mine can drive any van, but any new employee has to be added to the policy - currently 5 can drive any vehicle. Two of mine are 24 and interestingly it cost nothing at all to add them. In fact when one was added the premium went down.  ???

Clever Forum Name

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Re: Alexander Swan - Disappointed
« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2016, 04:49:16 pm »
Some of you sound like you have gotten amazing deals! I can only dream of a price under £500 I'm not sure why they continue to hit me with silly prices.

I am 35 and the van is a 64 plate yet I'm always the wrong side of £800

34. Transit custom. Grippa tank system.

£485 fully comp with protects NCB