[windows_chepstow]

Rog,

You're making more excuses.  Where there's a will, there's a way.

Ian should go first, then you'd have to wait around 10 to 30 minutes depending on temperature for the windows to dry; so you can check his results; it shouldn't take too long this time of year.

I'd like you to 'note the results' and I'd put what-ever you say in my submission to PWC Mag.  (You may even get some advertising from it!?)  Remember, Philip may not even want to publish this; especially when I submit it written in crayon; but you never know.

Then it'd be your turn.

I've not given this 'competition' much thought because I was sure you wouldn't take the challenge, but it should be judged along the lines of quality of work first, and speed of work second.  It would need a bit more thought; but I can think.

There also should be a third category called, 'effort taken', or 'calories burnt', but this would be far too subjective to attempt to quantify; so this is ruled out.

I suggest you take the challenge; for a laugh if anything; and I bet the outcome, who-ever wins - won't do either  of you the slightest bit of damage.

It'd be an interesting read here; PWC Mag maybe; and we can all have a few beers after the event!

[jeff1]

Tosh

What is PWC magazine?
Its nice to see you guys, can still go for a beer afterwards?

[Moderator David@stives]

If i lived in Chepstow i would take up the challenge no problem ,because i am pretty quick with both methods.

Today for example i had to clean this house and conservatory and every window was covered in snail trails ,this an example of a wfp nightmare. i was too stubborn and lazy to go back to my car for my squeegie as i knew this was one rare occasion where trad would of been quicker.

Well the real reason was i just love my pole. Long live WFP

Dont comment about the snails here i will start another post.



Dave

[Justin Ruggles]

To be honest Tosh, I'm not totally against it.

I just don't think there's a fair way of doing it, and whoever came out worst would have plenty of genuine excuses.

Whoever went second would have an obvious advantage.
Cleaning off "soap residue" will not give any chance of spots or runs like dirt and grease would, nor would a squeegee leave any lines either.

As Ian said, clean sills.
The first person cleans them, the second person has nothing much to do.

Spiders, bird muck, cobwebs.....the list goes on.
It's always going to be much harder for person A, regardless of checking these things out first.

Rog.

Clean them twice each and take your best time.

No excuses then about I had to wipe the sill abit more or there was some dried on bird muck on window number 2 etc etc. I think you get the idea.

Justin

[Helen]

What is PWC magazine?

It's the Ionics selling magizine.
Quite a good content and read after you take out all the self advertising

[jeff1]

Thank You Helen 

[JohnL]

  .  .  is this little sojourn taking place any where near Monmouth by any chance?   

  .  .  .  roundheads and cavaliers yet again                          

JohnL

[jeff1]

If it takes place it will be around the Chepstow area!

then to Tesco's afterwards for a well earned Cuppa. or maybe the pub. 

[Ian_Giles]

To make it easier all round, I'll clean the bungalow earlier in the day, so it will also be a spotlessly clean house for whoever goes first.

And Roger can walk around it and assess just how he wants to approach the cleaning of it (yeah I know, I'm repeating myself)

And we'll video the two cleans too, I'm sure someone will have a site we can post the results for interested parties to view....

Come on Rog!! it'll be fun too!!

Ian

[chris@c.m.s]

How about taking the pressure off Squeeky and throwing the challenge open to any trad cleaner, step up terry 

[Sir Squeaky]

As long as we haven't got to pay his petrol....

[jeff1]

How about taking the pressure off Squeeky and throwing the challenge open to any trad cleaner, step up terry 

Very good Idea Take the pressure of Squeaky, anyone live near these guy's, and fancy doing an educational video, we have the wfp, all we need now is a Traditional wc, anyone up for it, and you pay your own expenses, but you probably get to go to the pub afterwards  and the oppertunity to me your cyber buddies

[Ian_Giles]

Mmm. we'll leave the turbo charged world Champion out of this I think!
Unless it is a bungalow of georgian windows!

No, lets keep it to me & Squeaks, he is the forum's resident WFP hater, and has all to often claimed he is as quick or quicker (not counting big stuff, georgians and leaded of course) on normal houses or bungalows, and is continually saying it doesn't do a good job.

This is me calling him to account, on a large if simple bungalow, a straight forward clean for us both to do.

This is to show Roger that WFP is in fact at the very least as quick as WFP on even something like a bungalow (even up against a pretty quick trad window cleaner) and it can also do at least as good a job as trad.

We can keep it fun, and make a bit of an event of it, having it timed and recorded, with the results put on the forum for all to see....

All Roger has to do is say yes...


Ian

[Sir Squeaky]

I wish people would stop saying I was making excuses... :
I did say I was a happy enough, but it had to be fair and worth doing.

Both cleaning a clean house is pointless.
You can't simulate how long it would take with your brush to remove dirt that isn't there.
You're not going to scrub away at it for ages are you?

You can brush as quickly and as inaccurately as you want.
It won't leave any marks on a perfectly clean house will it?

Me meanwhile, I'll still have to squeegee just the same as if it was dirty.
Then my job will be perfect too, as I'm just washing off clean water.

The only way is to both do it on dirty windows, but that isn't going to happen.

[Justin Ruggles]

Another Excuse.

[Sir Squeaky]

Yawn..... :
If you can't understand the obvious things I said there, then you're missing the point.

[jeff1]

I wish people would stop saying I was making excuses... :
I did say I was a happy enough, but it had to be fair and worth doing.

Both cleaning a clean house is pointless.
You can't simulate how long it would take with your brush to remove dirt that isn't there.
You're not going to scrub away at it for ages are you?

You can brush as quickly and as inaccurately as you want.
It won't leave any marks on a perfectly clean house will it?

Me meanwhile, I'll still have to squeegee just the same as if it was dirty.
Then my job will be perfect too, as I'm just washing off clean water.

The only way is to both do it on dirty windows, but that isn't going to happen.

It is a Fair point squeak 

[Moderator David@stives]

Squeeky

as i said earlier let Ian go first then you have nothing to lose.

Justin

Youre right  EXCUSES

Dave

[JohnL]

stick to your guns Squeek!

two bungalows side by side if thats possible and both grimed up to the hilt - just like some of my monthly cleans                  

pity it couldnt be the Forth Road Bridge, both starting at different ends and see which year the first gets to the middle            

JohnL

[Morph]

Or, one of you do it one month, the other do it the following month.
It will take you that long to sort all the issues out!

Or will the weather conditions in June be more favourable than in July?

I'm bored with this now

Squeaky..just stick to what you do well